MAKE IT POLL: ILX Star Trek nominations thread at last! VOTING ENDS 2016/09/09

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i have no mouth and i must lol

lmao

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

btw i read the ellison "city" book when i was like 15 and remember very little about it other than the rather amazing fact that gene roddenberry went around for years (falsely) telling ppl that the reason they rejected ellison's original draft is that he had "scotty dealing drugs on the enterprise"

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

haha i just went thru the wiki section about the teleplay and it's... convoluted. much rancor over a proposed plot device involving mccoy injecting himself w dangerous drugs as well. as far as i can tell tho the distinct fuck-the-hippies vibe is ellison's.

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

(it's not that strident, kirk abandons joan collins w regret and admiration, etc, but idk it still feels nixonian to me. also not sure what exactly happens w/r/t pearl harbor in the joan collins lives timeline. usa turns the other cheek i guess.)

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

Ellison there looks like Michael Dunn in "Plato's Stepchildren"

Jeffrey Tambor IS Harry Mudd

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

i did always wonder why they didn't just take joan collins back to the future w/ them, but maybe that wasn't an option w/ that particular time machine

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

her absence from 1930 Chicago (or was it NY?) might've also caused the Nazis to win

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

idk if i like any episode that takes place on earth. spock peering through the goggles at a backlot set and saying "strange, captain -- it bears a surprising resemblance to mid-20th-century earth" -- that's fine. the planet of warners gangsters is fine. just as long as it's not earth. even star trek iv is working at a huge disadvantage w me.

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link

IDW recently adapted Ellison's teleplay for a 5-ish series:

http://www.flickeringmyth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/cotef.jpg

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

idk if i like any episode that takes place on earth

the only good one is the Gary 7/Terri Gar one imo

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

DS9 had the best earth episodes ("Past Tense" and "Homefront"/"Paradise Lost")

ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

No way, this was best DS9 earth episode.
http://i.imgur.com/zbHnqYS.jpg

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

you know that was supposed to be a pilot for a series, right Shakey? honestly, would you have watched that show?

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

!!!

In 2008, IDW Publishing launched an Assignment: Earth five-issue comic book series written and drawn by John Byrne. The stories show the characters' lives from 1968 up to 1974, including Seven and Roberta's peripheral involvement in the events of a prior episode, "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" (occurring before "Assignment: Earth" for the Enterprise crew, but after for Seven and Roberta), and an epilogue set in 2008 depicts an annual reunion between Roberta and Isis (in her humanoid guise) at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial to honor a friend who was killed in that conflict. The characters appear also in 2010 in issues #3 and #4 of Star Trek: Leonard McCoy Frontier Doctor.

Author Greg Cox has included Gary Seven and Roberta in three of his Star Trek novels, Assignment: Eternity and the two-part novel, The Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh. In the latter two novels Gary Seven and Roberta Lincoln go on to eventually stop Khan Noonien Singh and his fellow genetically engineered humans from taking over the planet.

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

I doubt I would've watched the show but I like this bizarre mysterious character dropped into the Trek universe, it works well

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 21:13 (seven years ago) link

mudd's women was one of the three stories roddenberry pitched for the star trek pilot. he was using the fantastic allegorical power of sci-fi to tell the story of a pimp who lives in a cave.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 11 August 2016 06:10 (seven years ago) link

even star trek iv is working at a huge disadvantage w me.

"Don't leave him at the mercy of twentieth century medicine" all time win.

Mark G, Thursday, 11 August 2016 08:55 (seven years ago) link

I've only read a couple novels, neither of which were the one OL mentioned.

How Much For Just The Planet is indeed great, but John M. Ford's other Trek novel, The Final Reflection, is far more serious-Trek for people that like that.

Shakey δσς (sic), Thursday, 11 August 2016 09:37 (seven years ago) link

Already got a ballot!

write sed fread (Leee), Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:42 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CplEsG1W8AQwG3e.jpg

ciderpress, Thursday, 11 August 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link

This is v. exciting, thanks Leee!

I heart TNG, but I've hardly watched any Enterprise, DS9 or Voyager. Always happy to get TOS recommends - I remember watching the whole series on BBC2 in the early nineties but I can't remember much except that The Menagerie seemed like the most interminable thing ever to a 13-year-old.

Recently watched the remastered Doomsday Machine on Netflix and that is fucking bonkers good.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 August 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link

I'm ambivalent about the CGI inserts but the remastered interior scenes on TOS are just fucking beautiful to look at.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 August 2016 11:43 (seven years ago) link

CGI remastering is a tragedy of Lucasian proportions.

chad valley of the shadow of death (ledge), Friday, 12 August 2016 13:19 (seven years ago) link

It's pretty seamless (and often an improvement) on TNG, but the CGI ship on the original series looks wack.

(I believe the CGI effects shots were a necessary result of remastering, rather than Lucas-style "improvements". But some of them are pretty shit-looking nonetheless.)

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:04 (seven years ago) link

And, that said, the Doomsday Machine space dong on the remaster looks fucking groovy.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

Sharpening up the picture is one thing, but adding effects shots is totally misguided. Better to let these things remain of their time. Part of the fun of TOS is going back to the 60s.

jmm, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link

Otm i hate that shit. Glad i have the og dvd sets

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

I would agree but I love this shot too much

http://67.media.tumblr.com/7d4fb230cb1c40d6d39b363a6543ed51/tumblr_nw8gm7vPdY1ufg9h8o1_1280.png

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

I was referring to TOS

Οὖτις, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

voted!

Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

Received! BTW I'm almost certainly going to extend the deadline at least one month just to give myself time to finish TOS.

write sed fread (Leee), Friday, 19 August 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

maybe I will have re-watched all of TNG by then

Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

probably not though - may just revisit my favorite TNG villain episodes ie, the Borg, Lore, and Q

Οὖτις, Friday, 19 August 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

I think it's time for a DS9 rewatch.

Millsner, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 12:03 (seven years ago) link

i recommend skipping season 1 other than the first episode and "Progress" and "Duet", it's a whole lot of excitement-killing nothingness otherwise

ciderpress, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link

I think this is the fabled DS9 spreadsheet, which might be useful here

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link

im not a fan of that spreadsheet anymore, its purpose is more to show the episodes that are related to the main story arc so you miss out on some good one-offs

the ciderpress guide to DS9 goes something like this:

Season 1:
Emissary
Progress
Duet

Season 2:
Necessary Evil
Whispers
The Maquis Pts. 1&2
The Wire
The Jem'Hadar

Season 3:
The Search Pts. 1&2
Civil Defense (this one is skippable i just find it stupidly entertaining)
Defiant
Past Tense Pts. 1&2
Destiny
Visionary
Improbable Cause
The Die is Cast
The Adversary

Season 4-7
Just watch everything at this point. you can skip the ferengi episodes if you dont like those (S6 "The Magnificent Ferengi" is really good though) and the holosuite eps if you don't like those (S7 "It's Only A Paper Moon" is the good one there imo) but there aren't too many stinkers otherwise

ciderpress, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 13:55 (seven years ago) link

Hey I like "Move Along Home", "If Wishes Were Horses", "Q-Less" (which is like a Mirror-Universe Doctor Who episode) from season 1!

write sed fread (Leee), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link

those are the goofy ones, i like them too but most of the ppl i recommend trek episodes to want the more dramatic stories

ciderpress, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link

Oh I would totally want the good goofy ones too. I mean, I even super enjoyed "Angel One"

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

I always considered myself a big Trek fan but holy shit @ this thread. I know nothing.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

Civil Defense (this one is skippable i just find it stupidly entertaining)

omg this is second only to "Far Beyond the Stars" as far as DS9 goes IMO.

write sed fread (Leee), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

haaaaaaapppppy 50th!

https://twitter.com/tomandlorenzo/status/773863593204936704

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link

OK, started working on this today. I promise I'll have it done. With no TOS.

Jeff, Thursday, 8 September 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

ok i will counter with all-TOS

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link

oh crap this is due tomorrow?

someone name me 3 episodes of TOS to watch tonight before i hash out my ballot, assume i haven't seen any already except "Balance of Terror" and "City on the Edge of Forever"

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

(i have seen others but not in 10+ years)

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

Amok Time
Plato's Stepchildren
Mirror, Mirror

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

HEY! I'VE EXTENDED THE BALLOT SUBMISSION DEADLINE!! To indefinitely!

write sed fread (Leee), Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

indefinitely?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 September 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link


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