― strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 2 June 2005 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link
I will unhesitatingly fess up to how clumsy that phrase was. And I am sorry that my glibness and the wave-the-red-flag headline inspired such fury. What I was going for is that, by declaring all people who enjoy "Wait" to be scum, you're asking people to look at your own tastes in vulgar erotic content and see if you have any ground to stand on when declaring this song indefensible as a source of entertainment (this is the ironic thing - declaring something defensible doesn't mean its beyond critique, it means you feel it deserves critique and discussion as to its qualities. Something indefensible - perhaps like this "date rape song" we've been threatened with or "Black Korea" by Ice Cube - would overtly endorse a criminal act, there would be no room for interpretation).
and obv I'm not actually saying all songs that endorse criminal acts are necessarily indefensible.
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 2 June 2005 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 June 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link
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― mwahyeah, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 09:46 (eighteen years ago) link
i can't believe I'm just now reading this. lol wow.
(interest sparked cuz i just acquired the album this is on for two bucks, tho how could you miss the single when it came out).
so...uh...has anybody's minds changed?
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol reading this just cuz I've been listening to their music & remembering how popular they were when I was in college, and while honestly I think there's better songs on the album anyway ("Badd" and "Shake" are both better singles) the couple posts (poorly) attempting an analogy of what a "female response track'd" entail are super-headdesk
― nova, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link
my basic issue with the beat is idk what it does that "Drop It Like It's Hot" doesn't do better, although I suppose it doesn't "pop" as much and that works in the context of the delivery
anyway party like it's 2005 man
― nova, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 03:56 (nine years ago) link
"Shake" is a low key classic, nowadays it's the song i'm most likely to hear a rap DJ play by the Ying Yang Twins OR by Pitbull
― some dude, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 04:00 (nine years ago) link
yeah, Pitbull's opening verse is so great too
Funny thing about this song is how much my best friend in college's first gf / pretty much every girl there were mad into it, truly the (slightly more unnerving?) "Blurred Lines" of its day
I did not realize how old Mr. Collipark was btw, kinda cool
― nova, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 11:58 (nine years ago) link
wow, wtf I had no idea. for context, dude is older than Grandmaster Flash! o___O
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
wait, he was over 40 when he decided to briefly go by Beat In Azz?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
haha
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
Grandpa Collipark onthebeathoe
man I always think it's too late for me to try making beats as a hobby and this gives me hope, thank you DJ Smurf
― nova, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 03:34 (nine years ago) link
BTW if y'all put the producer under Composer in iTunes what do you tag the names as? I used to just update to whatever their last alias is but I feel like tagging Collipark as Beat in the Azz/Mr. Collipark/DJ Smurf and sorting as Mr. Collipark is more respectful to his name game lol
― nova, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link
― nova, Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:58 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i didn't know this either and it's fantastic.
this album is good, but looking at old tracklists the first 5-6 songs on me and my brother are unstoppable
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 03:41 (nine years ago) link
This album is pretty hard to f/w outside of "Bedroom Boom," a couple more maudlin numbers and a few "party" tracks that don't pop off like the best stuff, but I should give Me & My Brother a closer listen
how did it take me 9 years to buy it lol, everyone in college loved these guys
― nova, Friday, 19 September 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link
"Fuck the Ying Yang Twins" does nerd-revenge fantasy rap better than any nerd rappers & "Live Again" does "I understand what these strippers go through" better than Drake too lol
― nova, Friday, 19 September 2014 02:59 (nine years ago) link
oh man i forgot about Adam Levine singing "oh, the life of a stripper"
― some dude, Friday, 19 September 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link
lol yeah
― nova, Friday, 19 September 2014 03:10 (nine years ago) link
man 2005, Adam Levine's year of being Chris Martin before it was all cruelly snatched away
― nova, Friday, 19 September 2014 03:11 (nine years ago) link
Is Mr. Collipark the Timbaland to Lil Jon's Neptunes/Pharrell? Not a qualitative comparison either way mind, just a working thesis I thought of where Collipark does club shit while Lil Jon does club shit and/or "hard" shit that Collipark doesn't really
idk doesn't really matter lol they're (were?) both good
― nova, Saturday, 20 September 2014 03:12 (nine years ago) link
Timbaland's hard shit is harder than the Neptunes tho
― The Reverend, Sunday, 21 September 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link
Damn, when was the last time Lil Jon really did street rap tho? I miss that shit
― The Reverend, Sunday, 21 September 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link
Mustard is so consciously indebted to Lil Jon that i don't feel like i miss him as much as i did a few years ago. would be interesting to hear him be more engaged w/ rap's current wave than that new "Turn Down For What" knockoff single featuring Tyga, though.
― some dude, Sunday, 21 September 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link
― The Reverend, Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah honestly I think most of 'em are pretty bad but idk how many I'm thinking of. "3 A.M." being the one exception I'd agree with you on, shit's like a horror flick lol
― nova, Sunday, 21 September 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link
dude at Ohword back in the mid-'00s had a post dissing the hell out of Timbaland during his JT/Nelly Furtado/Danjahandz resurgence and one of his main criticisms was that his catalogue's devoid of straight-up bangers. I disagreed at the time but he was onto something
Not that his "poppier"/typical old style in diff. eras style hasn't yielded tons of classics but it is a problem that disconnects him a bit from the core of the genre imo. Plus there's the fact that I just can't listen to Missy's albums straight through like that, although that is partially her fault, I don't think she's a very good rapper & the "goofiness" is not enough to make up for it
― nova, Sunday, 21 September 2014 02:08 (nine years ago) link
also Mustard may be indebted to Jon but I don't think he's anywhere near as good. though yeah not into "Turn Down for What" and lol don't know the other one you mentioned, fuck Tyga though
OK triple post my bad gonna chill heh
― nova, Sunday, 21 September 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link
This song grosses me out. I don't like it when vox are recorded in a way that you can hear the saliva noises of the vocalists mouth...there's some Leonard Cohen songs I can't listen to for the same reason...this is my biggest pet peeve in all of music....this is maybe significant cuz it's the first rap song ever to do it. but it's still GROSS! yucky.― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 29 April 2005 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link
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