Frank Ocean, 'Boys Don't Cry'

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i'm enjoying endless a great deal. it's bleak and wintry and lonely, and frank is the fire that keeps you warm

j. winters (josh), Friday, 19 August 2016 15:24 (seven years ago) link

does he build a bonfire out of that staircase

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 19 August 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

i hope he installs a guiderail to go along with it

j. winters (josh), Friday, 19 August 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

It sounds OK. Got kind of a demo-y quality to it. Kind of like his spin on a JJ mixtape? There's a place for it but it's hard to get too excited knowing there's a (presumably) real album just around the corner.

Evan R, Friday, 19 August 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

that closing track though :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Evan R, Friday, 19 August 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

The first of today's many annoyances: a certain publication named Frank Ocean a singer-songwriter and Jazmine Sullivan an "R&B performer."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 August 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

I'm already seeing "brilliantly confounding" and "gorgeous mystery." I'm homicidal already.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 August 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

i think the album's good but that's certainly a reach lol

j. winters (josh), Friday, 19 August 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

i guess i'm halfway through this and dude doubled down on the aspects of him i found least interesting i.e. fragmentary songs tied together by a kind of "stream of consciousness" design. hope the "album" is meatier

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 19 August 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

this feels entirely useless to me outside the isley cover

J0rdan S., Friday, 19 August 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link

the fake kraftwerk song at the end that i think is shaming me for having a phone, that one's fun

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 19 August 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

nm that's apparently a song by wolfgang tillmans

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 19 August 2016 16:55 (seven years ago) link

i thought using that song was a bit of a self-own on frank's part, but who knows

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 19 August 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link

I'm already seeing "brilliantly confounding" and "gorgeous mystery." I'm homicidal already.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, August 19, 2016 12:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo that sort of overpraise was way too predictable to be mad at

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 19 August 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

the brilliantly confounding self-own

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 19 August 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

self-own = cell phone. hm

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 19 August 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

you used to call me on my self-own

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 August 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

The first of today's many annoyances: a certain publication named Frank Ocean a singer-songwriter and Jazmine Sullivan an "R&B performer."

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, August 19, 2016 11:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf these are derived from the artists, JS has always been comfortable being called R&B, FO hasn't

Best Beloved Trump-Pence (some dude), Friday, 19 August 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

yes he transcends R&B

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 August 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link

Transcends it into sweet nothingness.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 19 August 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link

I tried listening to this while hangry and almost threw away my phone.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 19 August 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

you used to call me on my self-own

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 August 2016 17:26 (1 hour ago) Permalink

LOL

flopson, Friday, 19 August 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link

I wrote about it
http://time.com/4460139/frank-ocean-visual-album-endless/

maura, Saturday, 20 August 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link

So... there's a video with naked women on horses and tits being sucked now.

http://www.thefader.com/2016/08/20/frank-ocean-nikes-video

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 20 August 2016 12:13 (seven years ago) link

it's no

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 August 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link

I love the guitar arrangement/layering on "Ivy."

flappy bird, Sunday, 21 August 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link

That list of contributors though.

Popture, Sunday, 21 August 2016 01:39 (seven years ago) link

Could have done without that minute and a half rant against weed on track 4. Kills a vibe.

Popture, Sunday, 21 August 2016 01:48 (seven years ago) link

That list of contributors though.

― Popture

well, I did hear "Here, There, and Everywhere" and Andre 3000.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 August 2016 01:49 (seven years ago) link

Could have done without that minute and a half rant against weed on track 4. Kills a vibe.

weird, feel like weed is one of the only ways to access frank's songs

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 August 2016 04:30 (seven years ago) link

second track on this is the best frank ocean song I've ever heard

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 August 2016 04:31 (seven years ago) link

yup

flappy bird, Sunday, 21 August 2016 04:35 (seven years ago) link

well, it could still need some proper songs.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 21 August 2016 10:39 (seven years ago) link

lol @ the proper album being just as nothingy as the demos or whatever they were

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2016 11:49 (seven years ago) link

also HE CAN'T SING

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2016 11:50 (seven years ago) link

oh god the technophobe facebook interlude

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 August 2016 12:02 (seven years ago) link

lonny can sing
https://youtu.be/bTjEGP-TnSA

johnny crunch, Sunday, 21 August 2016 13:29 (seven years ago) link

Did anyone see on the list of guest musicians Fish and Anthony Phillips??...about the most interesting thing about the album unfortunately...On first listen 'Siegfried' was the only thing that stuck and that was written years ago...will probably go back to it but not in a hurry...

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Sunday, 21 August 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

is it just me or is this album terribly mastered

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 August 2016 14:26 (seven years ago) link

i like this better than channel orange but it'd only have to display the slightest animation for me to do that. all of the songs basically have one structure, i.e. start off in a place really ugly and unsettling and slowly get pretty. way too many nothing interludes, and having andre in the center makes the two halves seem duller than they are

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 August 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link

I really like "nights, "ivy" and "good guy" so far, about halfway through rn

thus far the only novel criticism of it I've seen is coming from brad's points in this thread, lol most everything else positive or negative - particularly negative - is predictable as hell

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Sunday, 21 August 2016 14:47 (seven years ago) link

maybe my speakers are breaking but the high synth tones in "siegfried" are making them vibrate in a really unpleasant, ear-splitting way and i guess the way to make me not want to listen to an album again is to master it so uncarefully that parts of it hurt to hear

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 August 2016 14:50 (seven years ago) link

Here's what I wrote on a certain critic's wall last night:

...too monochromatic, too reliant on strumming; he's importing hip-hop (e.g. Andre 3000) into introspective material beholden to a private argot of heartbreak. I listened and waited for a tempo change, any change (maybe I wasn't listening close enough). He's closer to John Legend than his bros Earl Sweatshirt and co. but w/no interest in arenas.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 August 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

xp I haven't gotten to that song yet and am listening on fancy headphones, we'll see. as for the sound in general it's pretty but also kinda...thin I guess? is that part of what you mean? definitely not enough low end.

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Sunday, 21 August 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link

oh yeah the record as a whole is super trebly and glassy

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 August 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

the first two songs are the best imo, possibly because the rest of the so-called tunes follow their template

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 August 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

i like "nights" a lot

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 August 2016 16:05 (seven years ago) link

Did anyone see on the list of guest musicians Fish and Anthony Phillips??

Wait, hold on, as in the former Marillion singer and the long-departed Genesis cofounder? He should have asked Steven Wilson in for a UK-prog-through-the-generations trifecta.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 August 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link


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