When will your music collection be complete?

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My music collection will be complete when I run out of music that I like to listen to.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 20 August 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

i think digital/streaming/spotify/etc makes TOTAL sense for the vast majority of the population. it's very handy. i, personally, am not a fan of streaming/computer sound. i have no problem with CDs though. i listen to tons of CDs. i also only listen to music at home or at work so the whole handy on-the-go quality of digital/MP3/etc is lost on me.

― scott seward

see, i find this weird, because cds are digital! there's no "computer sound" that's distinct from "cd sound", there's just better quality and lesser quality components.

my personal obstinacy about streaming isn't for sound quality issues, it's just paranoia about "the cloud".

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 August 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

CDs - good ones anyway - sound way better to me than Spotify/Soundcloud/MP3s/etc. Spotify, in particular, has a cloying claustrophobic sound that reminds me of digital radio on cable television. i get ear fatigue from it after an hour or so. i can listen to CDs all day long. having said that, i don't listen to stuff like that on my stereo. i don't hook my computer up to my receiver. which would obviously make a difference. so i've only heard computer sound on laptop speakers/computer speakers/television speakers.

scott seward, Saturday, 20 August 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link

CDs - good ones anyway - sound way better to me than Spotify/Soundcloud/MP3s/etc. Spotify, in particular, has a cloying claustrophobic sound that reminds me of digital radio on cable television. i get ear fatigue from it after an hour or so. i can listen to CDs all day long. having said that, i don't listen to stuff like that on my stereo. i don't hook my computer up to my receiver. which would obviously make a difference. so i've only heard computer sound on laptop speakers/computer speakers/television speakers.

― scott seward

a lot of the fatigue is down to mastering/"loudness wars" stuff, which is not exclusive to mp3s or streaming. stuff like radiohead and flylo are mastered with very little dynamic range and thus more prone to cause "ear fatigue" in some people (i'm one of them).

the really important thing if you're thinking of hooking your computer into your receiver is having a good dac. most computers (and phones, etc) don't put very much effort into the dac.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 August 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

I got to say for as much crap some old CDs get for poor quality, when you A/B and old pressing to a later remaster you might be surprised which one actually sounds better. The early CDs all have a ton of head room, so you do have to run whatever playback device back a bit hotter to keep the levels equalized, but when you do that, you will find some dynamics that are definitely squeezed by hotter digital mastering.

The one that recently I really noticed this on was comparing the old 1988 CD of The Who's "My Generation" in comparison to the deluxe remaster from 2012. The later CD is way hotter, but it sounds pretty harsh by comparison. There was some odd mix differences some track or something like that too, but older master sounded better to me.

earlnash, Sunday, 21 August 2016 01:44 (seven years ago) link

CDs are maddeningly case by case as far as different pressings go. it's annoying. but the good ones can be great. i bought a couple thousand 80's classical CDs and there are some dawn-of-CD-era examples that sound so amazing. mostly pressed in japan and germany. they can hold their own with anything since. it makes sense though. classical producers knew how to make great digital recordings long before CDs came around.

scott seward, Sunday, 21 August 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link

(i think dvd audio should be the standard for music in 2016. but it isn't. it's so intense when done right. the avant garde and modern classical and edm and other niche stuff that most people never hear is so far beyond most normal/popular stuff sound-wise and i think it's a shame really. great sound should be common. i still can't get over how shitty the last adele album sounded on cd.)

scott seward, Sunday, 21 August 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link

I've been selling LPs on Discogs for a while, that's been chugging along reasonably well. I have everything on the 'collection', its reasonably easy to add them to 'Inventory', and so on.

Recently, started to list CDs in the same way, I don't anticipate a ton of money/sales, but you never know.

Mark G, Sunday, 21 August 2016 08:56 (seven years ago) link

The 'random' button on the Discogs collection is something, I thought it would be a good way t get some of these played.

Started well, Dave Clarke's Archive one, then Shonen Knife's Baka Guy, then Konono#1..

Then it got a bit 'not that one' I.e. CD singles, or 'too familiar' (eg psycho candy), or too rubbish..

Then it seemed to produce the same suggestions over and over. Psycho candy came up three times, I know I own a few copies, yeah, but it was always the newspaper freebie version.

So, yep a good idea, wish it worked!

Mark G, Sunday, 21 August 2016 09:02 (seven years ago) link

he avant garde and modern classical and edm and other niche stuff that most people never hear is so far beyond most normal/popular stuff sound-wise and i think it's a shame really. great sound should be common.

Hi Scott, please suggest some great-sounding avant and other niche stuff to check out! I'm rut-prone (ouch).

dow, Monday, 22 August 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

Kinda like Ned here. Reduction seems key. I've moved three times the last ten years, and every single time turned out to be a decisive moment of narrowing down my collection (i.e. keeping records of artists of who I would like to own everything). The collector in me has waned, I think, and I think this is a good thing. I now "only" want to own the complete discographies of Scott Walker/Walker Brothers, Hood, Elliott Smith, Cocteau Twins, the Caretaker and MBV. It's quite arbitrary, as there is so much music around and in between those that I love and would like to own. But those have stuck with me, and it's nice to have at least some anchor points to browse for at flea markets and at record fairs?

Otherwise I'm pretty much done with 'collecting' discogs: I have only unloaded myself of records and CDs the last couple of years, and that felt like a huge relief tbh. No pressure. I own the compete discog of loads of other artists (Source Direct, SP3 and related (pretty much), Mogwai, Disco Inferno, Michael Mayer, Stars of the Lid, Kranky-artists, not having collected them consciously but just bought them along the way) but feel like I could sell those without regretting it. And I probably will, or give them away to friends. Soon probably, as a move to another house is on the way.

Bottom line: I have learned to find delight in 'tightening' the collection, narrowing it down. Something I never thought would happen, but there you go.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 August 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link

I've slowed down the past few years. Went from about buying about 125-150 albums a year to about 25-30 a year. I basically stream an album for months and months before deciding to buy it, a practice which has saved me a lot of money.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Monday, 22 August 2016 23:35 (seven years ago) link

I need to regulate my purchase speed but artificial scarcity and ridiculous prices has me scared to let a release sit 2 months before deciding to buy it. Now I'll preorder, listen to it for weeks on Spotify before the vinyl shows up and then be on to the next thing by the time the record arrives.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link


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