Oliver Stone's Decider biopic "W," starring Josh Brolin

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he doesn't deserve mere ironic dismissal into the memory hole. our red-hot contempt should never be allowed to fade away.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 27 August 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

hard to remember what the big deal was

this is an insane thing to say.

this was on netflix last summer so i watched it for the first time since seeing it in the theater. it seemed...oddly slight. considering the characters, the stakes, the fact that it was a dude tackling a sitting president, etc. i am not an oliver stone hater -- thought at his best i think he only rises to the level of enjoyable batshit melodrama -- but it lacked even the a-cokehead-reads-the-nation intensity that gives his crappy work some verve.

a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link

many xps

2008 feels like yesterday. At first I thought silby meant what was the big deal about the movie. Bush years cast a long shadow. Feels like we're still in them. The movie is slight bc it was rushed: principal photography started in May 2008 (!!)

flappy bird, Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

doesn't feel like yesterday to me - sometimes I remember that Dubya was President for two terms and it feels vaguely unreal

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

in part because even with Obama's massive flaws, it feels like we've made real strides on important things (gay marriage, abortion rights isn't purely on the defensive, people actually talk and care about police brutality/personal rights/privacy, etc.) vs the nadir of the Bush years that felt like the end of anything positive happening

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

also because he nominated Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, how the fuck did that ever make it past more than a couple of interns spitballing names

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

Harriet Miers looks like Virginia Woolf compared to Kellyanne Conway and Donald Trump.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

karl rove looks like he was drawn by garry treudeau or berkeley breathed

brimstead, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

(in this film)

brimstead, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

This is Stone's last good film. Cast is great, scope is tightly focused.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

waiting for Brolin to play Rick Perry in a biopic

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

"thought at his best i think he only rises to the level of enjoyable batshit melodrama"

i swear i am not a chuck palahniuk fansite moderator when i say: natural born killers was something more than this. i have no idea if it was him at his best and it was certainly batshit, but that was some sort of cinematic something or other that was very memorable on the big screen.

i still feel like he doesn't get enough credit for the use of SOUND in that movie. and i never understood why more people didn't follow his lead. it was a true sensurround experience. i was totes impressed at the time.

kinda didn't need another 20+ year of IT'S THE MEDIA DO YOU SEE???? after that one. but what are ya gonna do?

scott seward, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

(although part of me feels like he just saw wild at heart and said to himself: i can top that!)

scott seward, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

nbk is definitely...an experience. it's like an american takashi miike movie.

also one of the few movies where i like the extended cut more. if only for the shot of tommy lee jones's head on a spike.

a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

I like Stone in batshit epic mode, The Doors, JFK, NBK, Nixon. I've never seen W, but if it's like that, I'd definitely see it.

Frederik B, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

and as far as 90's heads in duffel bags go, i think U Turn is kinda underrated.

scott seward, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

plus, the cast of U Turn is just ridiculous. where is the behind the scenes footage of jon voight, billy bob, nick nolte, and sean penn hangin' with j-lo?

scott seward, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link


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