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If no one's heard of them to begin with, I don't think they can be "erased" from history...

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 September 2016 10:29 (seven years ago) link

When you get namechecked by The Eccentronic Research Council you know you've made it.

nashwan, Thursday, 1 September 2016 10:37 (seven years ago) link

if a guy out of The Eccentronic Research Council hadn't mentioned the band Mum And Dad in an interview recently, I think they'd be forgotten by literally everyone on Earth, including everyone in the band itself

― imago, Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:19 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

some of us have been keeping the Mum And Dad flame burning. shout out to the other 19 ppl who have apparently listened to them on spotify in the last month

soref, Thursday, 1 September 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link

oh i quite like them, having investigated as the result of that shout-out

imago, Thursday, 1 September 2016 11:13 (seven years ago) link

not your shout-out, eccentronic guy's shout-out

imago, Thursday, 1 September 2016 11:13 (seven years ago) link

yours is also appreciated

imago, Thursday, 1 September 2016 11:13 (seven years ago) link

unjustly forgotten:

St. Christopher
Shelleyan Orphan
The Motorcycle Boy
The Sugargliders

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 1 September 2016 12:02 (seven years ago) link

I was blown away to discover that The Wombats have quietly been doing really well in America recently and still managing to get albums into the UK top 5

PaulTMA, Thursday, 1 September 2016 12:26 (seven years ago) link

3rd Bass, Electribe 101, The Fatima Mansions, The Goats, Madder Rose and Gallon Drunk, none of whom afaik are listened to by anyone who wasn't there at the time or even referred to in 'lol early 90s' type articles.

― Matt DC, Thursday, September 1, 2016 10:23 AM (three hours ago)

Latter two still mentioned/liked a lot. Possibly both reformed as well?? The rest = yeah, forgotten.

Will also say it probably doesn't count as "being erased from history" if you were never part of history in the first place. Otherwise I could just list all my bands.

emil.y, Thursday, 1 September 2016 12:54 (seven years ago) link

The Fatima Mansions seem like a good one. Microdisney as well, even though Microdisney feel more in tune with styles that people care about in 2016.I don't know if they are both better remembered in Ireland maybe?

soref, Thursday, 1 September 2016 13:16 (seven years ago) link

Huge hits that you never hear anymore:
Robert Plant - "Tall Cool One"
EMF - "Unbelievable"

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 1 September 2016 13:48 (seven years ago) link

I feel sure I've heard Unbelievable recently.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 1 September 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

I'm told that Martha and the Muffins - "Echo Beach" gets a lot of play in the UK but I've literally never heard it on Canadian radio, despite it going gold and winning a Juno.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 1 September 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

(in recent times)

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 1 September 2016 13:52 (seven years ago) link

I mentioned "Echo Beach" on the "Obscure songs heard at CVS" thread. I've heard it twice recently.

Donald Trump eats people of all races and religions (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 1 September 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link

In the UK you hear Echo Beach all over the place but never any other Martha & The Muffins songs, ever.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link

I should get points for this: A tune I really love and have listened to often/recently combines two artists on this thread. Madder Rose "Overflow (FC Kahuna Headstart Me Up Mix)"

andrew m., Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

Can movies be discussed in this thread? I was just reflecting on the fact that "American Pie" was a gigantic smash hit, people quoted from it all the time, it was seen as the "Animal House" of its moment, and now? Kind of gone, right?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link

other than the 300 straight to DVD sequels under the name American Pie? hell local art movie house just showed it as a 'cult classic'. it's ubiquitous, people still say "oh, Stiffler's mom", MILF, an existing term, became part of mainstream lexicon and is still there. history enhanced, not erased it!

Neanderthal, Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

OK re MILF very good point. "Stiffler's mom" is not something I've heard referred to in a decade but OK point taken.

local art movie house just showed it as a 'cult classic'

you need a local rich person to make them a big donation so they don't have to do this shit tho

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link

I live in Canada and I've definitely heard "Echo Beach" on the radio. Don't think I've heard anything else by them.

MarkoP, Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:29 (seven years ago) link

American Pie or its sequels seem to be on tv quite a bit on various channels. So yeah seems to be more staple than forgotten.

Stevolende, Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

I think that in that in the UK Martha + the Muffins are regarded as a memorable one-hit wonder with a funny name, which afaict is how they have always been regarded here since 1979, I don't think there has been any change in their profile as such

soref, Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link

What about Can't Hardly Wait? I feel like that was big back in the day. Or maybe I just knew a lot of people with the soundtrack.

MarkoP, Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:40 (seven years ago) link

I live in Canada and I've definitely heard "Echo Beach" on the radio. Don't think I've heard anything else by them.

What about Ashley MacIsaac and the Rankin Family? Both were multiplatinum in the 90s.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 1 September 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

Apparently they were M+M before Marshall Mathers.

Which should make them memorable really.

I thought I'd come across some member being known as part of another band but can't see anything other than Daniel Lanois's sister playing bass for a few years.

Stevolende, Thursday, 1 September 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link

Martha Ladly (one of two Marthas in Martha and the Muffins) joined the Associates:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Ladly

soref, Thursday, 1 September 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

Coal Chamber looked as though they were going to be as big as Korn for a short while, then Limp Bizkit came along

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Thursday, 1 September 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

the 3rd martha and the muffins album ('this is the ice age') is worth a listen - has an odd disconnected vibe to it, and is a bit eno-ish in places. one of the earlier daniel lanois productions fwiw (his sister was in the band at that point)

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Thursday, 1 September 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link

If you look through the NME albums-of-the-year list, which I think is a reasonable enough indication of stuff they thought was going to stand the test of time, the early 90s gives you albums by the 3rd Bass, Electribe 101, The Fatima Mansions, The Goats, Madder Rose and Gallon Drunk, none of whom afaik are listened to by anyone who wasn't there at the time or even referred to in 'lol early 90s' type articles.

― Matt DC, Thursday, September 1, 2016 5:23 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This was HUGE among, well, me and one other guy in 8th grade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNfU_RMbUCA

The Viva Dead Ponies album became one of those "holy grail" used CDs for me. I used to check for it in every store I went into. By the time I finally tracked down a copy though, I didn't like it at all. I wonder if I'd enjoy it now?

how's life, Thursday, 1 September 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

Are High llamas any better remembered?
Sean O'Hagan the main guy was at least at one point the other major guy in Microdisney.

I see they have a new lp out this year that I don't remember hearing about. So must still have some recognition.

I first came across O'Hagan in Stereolab though. He toured Ireland with them in '92

Stevolende, Thursday, 1 September 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

the 3rd martha and the muffins album ('this is the ice age') is worth a listen

This is an understatement.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 September 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

In my experience Sean O'Hagan is remembered, but his actual bands much less so.

emil.y, Thursday, 1 September 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

Gallon Drunk are still going strong. Both live where they are very intense and on album. Their 2014 release "The Soul of the Hour" was great. Dark, hypnotic, aninmalistic grooves. Like "Exile on Main Street" but better.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 1 September 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link

Gallon Drunk at Phoenix 97 is still the best gig I've ever been to, don't seem to actually own any of their music though, used to have one CD but lost it somewhere.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Thursday, 1 September 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link

Smithereens I think?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 1 September 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

Fatima Mansions catalog is all really great, go back and revisit!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 1 September 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

Suddenly, Tammy!

beamish13, Thursday, 1 September 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

Does anyone remember Calla? They were a revelation at the time, haven't heard anything from them for a while.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 1 September 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link

the 3rd martha and the muffins album ('this is the ice age') is worth a listen

This is an understatement.

Good lord, yes. One of my all-time fave art rock records. I'm sure they're doing quite well with Echo Beach residuals but this is the work that should've defined Martha/Muffins/M+M.

doug watson, Thursday, 1 September 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link

Does anyone remember Calla? They were a revelation at the time, haven't heard anything from them for a while.

i absoutely love the 'televise' album ..
they really were on the verge of crossing over for a short time, but things fell apart both re band and record label.
seem to recall they tried to get things going again a few years ago (myspace era !), but their time was over.
such a shame.

mark e, Thursday, 1 September 2016 19:15 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Was watching Buffy and there was a Lotion poster on the dorm wall.

andrew m., Monday, 24 October 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link


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