Bringing back the dead: de-extinction, should we bring back extinct animals?

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very good

marcos, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

my calling

florence foster wallace (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

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System, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

not saying we should exterminate them or make the ones that are alive suffer, and yeah pets are cute and meat and dairy are tasty, but Animals should never have existed in the first place imo, so my answer to this is a resounding NO

flopson, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 00:28 (seven years ago) link

You are Thomas Ligotti and I claim my $5

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

bring back sebastien chikara questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

j., Tuesday, 4 October 2016 03:03 (seven years ago) link

Yes please, it was really unfair what we did to the Neanderthals, we should give them a fair shake now that resources are unlimited and the future habitability of Earth is free of all foreseeable risk

Anacostia Aerodrome (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 03:05 (seven years ago) link

Cavegirl porn would be a thing in, like, half an hour.

wookin pa nub (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 10:55 (seven years ago) link

we will create new animals, no need to diminish the material available for this by excluding extinct animals on rockist grounds

ogmor, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 11:02 (seven years ago) link

on rockist grounds

lol, well played, ogmor

wookin pa nub (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 12:49 (seven years ago) link

I demand the flying calculator-scorpions I was promised

I wish you could see my home. It's... it's so... exciting (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 13:04 (seven years ago) link

Yes please, it was really unfair what we did to the Neanderthals

otm

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 13:08 (seven years ago) link

It's odd: I support the reintroduction of species that went extinct to Scotland - beavers, wolves etc., but I would balk at the idea of reintroducing something that had gone totally extinct. Not sure why I accept a contradiction there.

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 13:13 (seven years ago) link

we have driven all the natural predators for deer out of urban areas leading to their overpopulation. bringing back sabertooth tigers, domesticating them, and training them to hunt deer is the obvious solution.

dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link

who's a good kitty? Who? WHO?

You Jergen? Aw yeah, I'm Jergen like Edgar Bergen (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link

DinoSlavery more like

You Jergen? Aw yeah, I'm Jergen like Edgar Bergen (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

whenever I want to get nice and depressed I read the wiki entry for the Great Auk:

On the islet of Stac an Armin, St Kilda, Scotland, in July 1840, the last great auk seen in the Britain was caught and killed.Three men from St Kilda caught a single "garefowl", noticing its little wings and the large white spot on its head. They tied it up and kept it alive for three days, until a large storm arose. Believing that the auk was a witch and the cause of the storm, they then killed it by beating it with a stick.

The last colony of great auks lived on Geirfuglasker (the "Great Auk Rock") off Iceland. This islet was a volcanic rock surrounded by cliffs which made it inaccessible to humans, but in 1830 the islet submerged after a volcanic eruption, and the birds moved to the nearby island of Eldey, which was accessible from a single side. When the colony was initially discovered in 1835, nearly fifty birds were present. Museums, desiring the skins of the auk for preservation and display, quickly began collecting birds from the colony. The last pair, found incubating an egg, was killed there on 3 July 1844, on request from a merchant who wanted specimens, with Jón Brandsson and Sigurður Ísleifsson strangling the adults and Ketill Ketilsson smashing the egg with his boot.

Great auk specialist John Wolley interviewed the two men who killed the last birds, and Ísleifsson described the act as follows:

The rocks were covered with blackbirds (referring to Guillemots) and there were the Geirfugles ... They walked slowly. Jón Brandsson crept up with his arms open. The bird that Jón got went into a corner but (mine) was going to the edge of the cliff. It walked like a man ... but moved its feet quickly. (I) caught it close to the edge – a precipice many fathoms deep. Its wings lay close to the sides - not hanging out. I took him by the neck and he flapped his wings. He made no cry. I strangled him.

Number None, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

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System, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

Guys, guys, guys!!! http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/08/health/dinosaur-tail-trapped-in-amber-trnd/index.html

The tail of a 99-million year old dinosaur has been found entombed in amber, an unprecedented discovery that has blown away scientists.

Xing Lida, a Chinese paleontologist found the specimen, the size of a dried apricot, at an amber market in northern Myanmar near the Chinese border.

The remarkable piece was destined to end up as a curiosity or piece of jewelry, with Burmese traders believing a plant fragment was trapped inside.

"I realized that the content was a vertebrate, probably theropod, rather than any plant," Xing told CNN.

"I was not sure that (the trader) really understood how important this specimen was, but he did not raise the price."

. . . The tail section belongs to a young coelurosaurian -- from the same group of dinosaurs as the predatory velociraptors and the tyrannosaurus.

The sparrow-sized creature could have danced in the palm of your hand.

The amber, which weighs 6.5 grams, contains bone fragments and feathers, adding to mounting fossil evidence that many dinosaurs sported primitive plumage rather than scales.

http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161208121636-dinosaur-amber-2-exlarge-169.jpg

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link

That is so cool.

jmm, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

That's a thrilling photo!

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:27 (seven years ago) link

http://www.cell.com/cms/attachment/2075122016/2069586825/gr3.jpg

jmm, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

That's from the scientific paper. There are more images there. http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)31193-9

jmm, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:51 (seven years ago) link

so beautiful

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 8 December 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

"primitive plumage" is a great name

El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 December 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

where is the love for the 99-million-yr-old ant entombed alongside the feather

mark s, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link

the paper is full of so much great stuff

intermediate between stages IIIa (rachis with naked barbs) and IIIb (barbs with barbules, lacking a rachis), but it does not exactly fit stage IIIa+b (rachis with barbs bearing barbules)

El Tomboto, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

Fantastic!

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

I just read that out to my husband forgetting he is extremely well-versed in rachises and barbules and reticulating splines and he was like 'well yeah, of course'

kinder, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link

long, naked, filamentous barbs

jmm, Thursday, 8 December 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link

I feel sorry for the Burmese traders.

jmm, Friday, 9 December 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link


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