which of these would you be most willing to give up in order to help decrease carbon emissions and mitigate climate change

i don't currently use any of these except heat and even then i'd only use it in the dead of winter if i didn't have roommates who have other opinions about the matter

air travel is certainly the easiest one to give up, the others can all become tough sells depending on where you live

Well then it's car, of course, fuck them! I guess air conditioning is even more pointless in here, but it seems like such a minor thing, I can't see it would really rate that high among carbon emission sources when compared to the other three?

If we're talking about air conditioning in one's home, then that, because I've never had it. If it's all air conditioning then I vote for cheap air travel, which isn't that cheap imo and I hate commercial air travel, and haven't been on a plane in 6 years, and before that 10 years so...

I didn't have heat for about 7 years straight, and that sucked.

as noted on the other thread I have no use for at least two of these things, so of the remaining two that I actually use I volunteer air travel. I'm cool with staying in California the rest of my life.

I can't see it would really rate that high among carbon emission sources when compared to the other three?

allow me to invite you to the American South/Southwest

don't take a plane or a car though, maybe some sort of water-bike

I guess I would've been more willing to consider giving up air travel a year ago, but now I have a curvy Costa Rican wife girlfriend, so without cheap flights our relationship wouldn't have happened and wouldn't have a future. That tends to make you more selfish about it.

Well then it's car, of course, fuck them! I guess air conditioning is even more pointless in here, but it seems like such a minor thing, I can't see it would really rate that high among carbon emission sources when compared to the other three?

― Tuomas, Thursday, September 29, 2016 5:33 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark

air conditioner is easily one of the top BTU/wattage sucker in the house for most people. when you take into account the giant HVAC A/C systems that cool skyscrapers, office buildings, malls, etc....

air conditioning for sure

I only have one of these and I'll fight to the death to keep it! I grew up in a very cold house where plug in radiator time was rationed and 50 pences were required for the gas fire. I feel like I have way done my austerity for the environment and am still owed some fucking heat. As for the rest - I dont possess.

when you take into account the giant HVAC A/C systems that cool skyscrapers, office buildings, malls, etc

yeah think there's a discrepancy here between ppl thinking about their own personal HVAC loads in their homes (which can be p minimal depending on where you're living) but the public/private spaces that people spend the majority of their time in (workplaces, etc.), I guarantee you their biggest energy loads are from heating or A/C.

But, as I said on the other thread, at least there's a lot of efficiency work that can be done to bring these loads down and lower overall demand on the grid (and thereby overall GHG emissions, depending on the power source)

yeah i actually got rid of my AC at home but i am for sure not voting for it bc my work is icy-cool in the summer and it sure makes working/doing ot/thinking a lot easier

now I have a curvy Costa Rican wife girlfriend

― Tuomas, Thursday, September 29

ugh why did u have to say ~CURVY~

i just got a new job a couple months ago, first air conditioned workplace I've had in over a decade, and damn, do I look forward to going to work now that it's summer

Soery, it's an old ILX meme, probably shouldn't have used it, but search for "curvy Colombian wife" if you want to see.

live in az so would give up the heater obv

If you have some $$, you can derive air conditioning from a heat pump connected to a subterranean well or array of pipes. It's often called a 'ground sourced heat pump'. Installing the system is expensive, especially if they have to drill a 225 foot well through a lot of rock to sink the pipes, but once you can use the deep subsurface as a heat sink and a source of coolness, running the system is very cheap, not much more than electricity to run the fan and compressor.

I'd give up my car before any of the other stuff. I can use bike or public transport.

poll is missing the "meat" option"

air conditioning is the one of these I could absolutely not go without. #ga

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I didn't turn on the AC for weeks but I'll be damned if I'm living in a house that's 88 damn degrees Fahrenheit