which of these would you be most unwilling to give up in order to help decrease carbon emissions and mitigate climate change

oh and oranges ... but about 85% of what I eat is local. n.b. I eat a lot of oranges though.

you're in california you jerk, everything's grown there

the closest oranges sold in stores are from 300 - 400 miles away. That's like several states or a foreign country to some of the ppl that post here.

where does the water that grows your food come from though

the sierras

also wells.

dayo, that question would be more pointed directed towards Southern Californians, rather than me and Shakey.

yeah there's definitely local water sources up here for farming whether its drawn from rivers that empty into Half Moon Bay or the San Francisco Bay or are pumped from Hetch Hetchy's vast network of waterways or wherever. There's a lot of relatively local irrigation in NorCal. My CSA's got wells to irrigate their crops out near Winters.

talking more about your drought xp

we had a bunch of rain this past season, it's way worse in SoCal

well, it's relative, as we export a lot of our water to the lower part of the state, which uses a lot more energy per capita due to population sprawl, HVAC consumption, and more auto miles

we give them our water, and they give us their Republican governors

lol

2 states/we want 2 states

seceding from the entire country has its appeal as well

US would be p fucked w out us

it'd be different for sure

I've a vague idea (aka I think I read somewhere) that one flight would outweigh any other possible saving.

It also feels the easiest to give up (though the idea of never flying anywhere ever for the rest of my life would make me feel a bit twitchy).

President Trump sure makes the idea of Governor Gavin Newsom seem palatable in comparison

ugh don't remind me. so not looking forward to our next governor. I mean, he'll be fine on a policy level but as a human being he is just disgusting.

he'll be fine on a policy level but as a human being he is just disgusting

more or less otm. I actually voted for the Republican who was running against him for Lt. Gov. last time

lol now I'm totally looking this up

whoa when did he turn into Christian Bale in American Psycho look-wise

he's always looked like that!

I've hated him ever since he ran for Mayor against bass player Matt Gonzales

whoa when did he turn into Christian Bale in American Psycho look-wise

― dr. mercurio arboria (mh 😏), Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:35 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago

me and several friends have been making American Psycho jokes about Newsom since he was first elected appointed to public office

I actually like the heat up to a point, but AC is a survival issue and that's not going to stop being the case

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/giving-up-beef-reduce-carbon-footprint-more-than-cars

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/21/suicide-reduce-carbon-footprint-more-than-cars-giving-up-beef

I dunno, kinda feel like the mass suicide of the human race would give off some serious emissions.

in the short term maybe but i feel like it's worth it when you look at the big picture

Most big pictures are improved by the exclusion of people, it's true.

I wouldn't need heating and would need less cheap flights if I could be evacuated from the northern wastes to somewhere more sustainably habitable, and I could deal without aircon if I had to & I don't think it would make me buy a car

I could be evacuated from the northern wastes to somewhere more sustainably habitable

good news buddy just stay where you are and it'll get warmer in the decades to come

i guess i would be least willing to give up heat

don't care about cars (though i live in an extremely unwalkable town)

don't care about AC

really don't care about air travel

https://i.imgur.com/w0Umkax.png

tbf the US is way hotter than all those other places

I'm 48 years old and I have lived on the east coast of Australia my whole life, from Brisbane down to Hobart, and I have never, ever lived in a house with an air conditioner installed. Of any type. The most I've used on hot humid nights has been opening windows and a fan blowing on me.
Isn't it also true that most Americans use electric dryers instead of pegging their laundry out to dry for free in the sun? WTF.

nah, half the dryers run on natural gas