Should Marijuana be legalised?

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I still don't know what 77 is, and I've been posting here forever...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 September 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

Request Access to 77 Borad

cough cough, Friday, 30 September 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link

xp no bile intended or anything but you've got to have one of the lowest word-count-to-knowledge ratios of anyone here so it isn't exactly surprising. :D

savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

Math is hard. xpost So was that ad hominem "you are dumb" addressed to me? Youch. What's up with that?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 September 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

never tabulated my word count to knowledge ratio, let alone estimated how low it is. guess that precludes 77 fellowship :(

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

Math is hard. xpost So was that ad hominem "you are dumb" addressed to me? Youch. What's up with that?

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 30, 2016 10:20 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah sorry, i'm bad at math and got it backwards. i meant to say "one of the lowest knowledge-to-word-count ratios", meaning you are often very verbosely full of shit. but never change, it takes all kinds, etc.

savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

i mean we're all dumb to an extend but it takes a special spirit to go on at length anyways.

savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

I'll take it!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 September 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

you're the best.

savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

we should get high some time

savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

i hope you guys have a good time

sorry, mr. map. never knew how word-county exclusive the love of everything is. be seeing you :(

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

you should join us

savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

i'd be there, but there's only so long you can persist excluded from 'the in board' before expectation totally deflates. which isn't to say though hey, hope you guys hit new highs

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

if man is 5, if man is 5

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

i'm not on 77 anymore fwiw and agree it has some boring and in-groupy elements but iirc it can be a good place to talk about things you don't want to be easily linked to your ilx account. josh in chicago has been around a long time though and there's been a lot of discussion about what 77 is on the main board and it seems he should at least kind of know what it is. i feel like i'm always seeing him say he doesn't know something and then drop 3 graphs about it anyway. i just think it's odd and find it annoying but w/e.

savvinesslessness (map), Friday, 30 September 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link

can't recall because i've never been invited to participate in 77 even though i've been clown-posting here for years turns out

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 September 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link

So I will be receiving my medical marijuana card in the next week or so. this is an odd turn of events; I'm really not a smoker and I am a little wary of using this prescription but I've been dealing with chronic neck pain and muscle spasms for about 16 months so at this point I'll try anything.
I'm an NYC resident. anyone have any questions?

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 03:30 (seven years ago) link

you can ingest instead of smoke, but edibles are pretty potent, so be cautious

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 14 October 2016 05:42 (seven years ago) link

NYC doesn't offer legal smokable weed actually; my understanding is the options are time release capsules (meh), fluid for vaping (uh uh) and sub lingual drops. Given that I'll likely take this before I go to sleep, as that's when the pain is worse (and has been kept in check till now with an evening cocktail of 800mg ibuprofen and muscle relaxers), I think the immediate relief option is the one I'll go for. It's apparently offered as three separate levels of THC/CBD potency and you're guided by the pharmacist as to what's most effective through trial and error. Insurance won't cover this and the doc suggested a monthly dose would likely run $130 out of pocket... which sucks but if it genuinely works I'll take it. There appears to only be one dispensary in Manhattan proper but, as it happens, it's 45 minutes away by subway. Further reports when my card shows up and I start trying to make appointments.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 05:56 (seven years ago) link

https://col-careny.com/faqs/

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 06:01 (seven years ago) link

another thread for our "new friend"

sarahell, Friday, 14 October 2016 08:41 (seven years ago) link

Vaping fluid is very popular in legal states (and non-legal if you can find it) - an extract is made then mixed with propylene glycol or similar, the tank looks like the early e-cig things you could buy at corner stores.
I've tried those, if that's the form it works like a champ. Screw the tank onto a $5 e-cig battery and take veeeeeeery light drags to start with. You're getting a lot of THC in concentrated form, it's easy to overdo it.

Edibles are too variable for me - I made a batch of coconut oil and it would take an unpredictable number of hours to hit me. Currently have tincture drops in the fridge but I haven't tried it yet - the idea of putting 151 under my tongue is horrifying. I'll probably just dropper it into a glass of water or something.

THC is the more useful part for pain but a 1:1 THC:CBD mixture is good if you're worried about anxiety/paranoia - CBD blunts the anxiety response some people have to THC. Higher CBD than THC (like the 20:1 products for epilepsy, etc.) don't get you high and while there's a body relaxation effect I don't think it would be useful for pain.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:26 (seven years ago) link

re: variable time - first two times I tried the coconut oil effects were minor but then I went to sleep. Increased the dose by 2 more ml, went to bed an hour later THEN woke up 3 hours later higher than I have been in my entire life. Still sort of high the next morning. For some reason it wasn't hitting for 4 hours, maybe my digestion is fucked.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:28 (seven years ago) link

We had made the coconut oil a few times and unpredictable is right. Sometimes it would come on in under an hour. Sometimes I'd be sitting there for three hours feeling like I'd wasted my time when it would finally start creeping up on me. I like the high much better than smoking it though.

how's life, Friday, 14 October 2016 09:44 (seven years ago) link

I've been researching the whole thing for my crohns and finding it pretty confusing. I guess I don't need my gastroenterologist to be on board with the idea, but I do need some kind of statement of diagnosis from her. But who actually prescribes the shit for me? A doctor at the one place that exists in Manhattan?

Jon, let's talk. I can recommend the pain management doctor who helped me get the prescription.
Basically all you need is a referral from someone who is certified to put you in the program and there's only a few in the city. I have a list and we can see who takes your insurance... or you can ask your gastro explicitly to place you with someone who can.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

A sterling excuse to hang out!

agreed! drop me a line!

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Friday, 14 October 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

Chief Wana Dubie: In Memoriam

Karl Malone, Saturday, 19 August 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

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what the hell are they smoking in new hampshire

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link

given all the car wrecks we've had in this country, why on earth should we be giving people bikes?

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

It's just wishful thinking abt something I p sure I will never see in my lifetime anyway.

― Rocker Brian (Abbbottt), Saturday, January 29, 2011 11:05 AM (eight years ago)

steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 18:46 (five years ago) link

Who's the one dweeb who voted nay?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link

it was the fuzz

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link

it was someone in new hampshire. one time they know someone who smoked a bowl and immediately jumped out of a window because they thought they could fly

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 20:52 (five years ago) link

in the middle of that sentence someone asked me a question and i decided to just keep typing and let jesus take the wheel with the post. goddammit jesus

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

Does weed help with crohn? Asking for two friends. Both have it. Just seems an awful thing to have. :-(

Also the one who voted no: learn to hit the correct answer.

nathom, Thursday, 21 February 2019 08:09 (five years ago) link

Yes

Mordy, Thursday, 21 February 2019 13:32 (five years ago) link

It has helped my crohns symptoms baseline and quelled flare ups when I have taken extra. I don’t know if it has done anything to the disease at a deeper level. Unfortunately it’s been over a month since I’ve been able to afford it (1:1 tincture is $210 a month in nyc)

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 25 February 2019 14:37 (five years ago) link

let's talk about this sometime jon

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 25 February 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link

Fuck the price is stupid high

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 February 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link

Wtf. 210 dollars??? A shop just opened here. They sell med weed at 10/12 euros. Been trying to convince the two ppl suffering from crohn to go. Alas one can't due to religious reasons, the other fears it might influence the impact of other medicine her kid is taking. (Daughter is 20 yo)

nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link

can confirm it helps. obviously there are side effects. because it can potentially affect late brain development, i would be hesitant to push for someone younger than their mid-20s to use it regularly unless absolutely necessary.

⅋ (crüt), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 15:58 (five years ago) link

Oh hell no. She's an adult. Wldnt recommend for a kid.

nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 15:59 (five years ago) link

20 still too young for more-than-occasional use imo (he said hypocritically)

⅋ (crüt), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:02 (five years ago) link

though if her current medication isn't sufficient it's certainly something to consider.

⅋ (crüt), Tuesday, 26 February 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link

Her diagnosis is very recent though they now realize she's had it since she was 12. But it's sth to consider. Fuck Crohn. :-((((

nathom, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:18 (five years ago) link

it help relieve symptoms for sure (i used to use it when i otherwise could not leave my house, now on humira that's not as much as an issue and i mostly use it for pain relief + appetite) and the science isn't quite there yet (mostly they're researching its effects on crohn's in israel) but the anti-inflammation might help w/ the crohn's itself

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link

As an anti-inflammatory, is it even as effective as ibuprofen? Or is the idea that it is less effective but less unhealthy?

I might have mentioned already, but since I had always heard about its benefits for those with glaucoma (which my mother in law takes medicine for) we found that you would pretty much have to be dosing with cannabis on a near non-stop basis to come close to the effects of Rx meds.

I'm really torn about legalization, at least in some regards. It should really be decriminalized, or at least no more criminalized than alcohol, but that kind of elides over the issue that alcohol is not particularly good for you. So it's def. hypocritical and stupid that cannabis is mostly illegal and alcohol isn't, but probably for the vast majority of people neither has many benefits and both have potential drawbacks, health or otherwise. Of course we have tried prohibition, and that didn't work, but there's something kind of ... off about making something at least potentially dangerous freely available just because you can't stop people from using it. It's like a rhetorical circle.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 February 2019 23:53 (five years ago) link

i am not going to try to predict the effect this is going to have on voters -- overall rescheduling it from S1 is a logical and useful shift and I am here for it.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:11 (five days ago) link

Maybe it's a dumb stereotype, but "really into weed" and "likely voter" seem close to mutually exclusive.

https://www.cshl.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Boomer-Esiason-headshot.jpg

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:12 (five days ago) link

xpost otm, regardless of its effect it needed to happen

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:12 (five days ago) link

something that I think has been overlooked itt so far is that this will enable research on a much greater scale

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:13 (five days ago) link

i.e. lab work, genetics, tests, etc

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:14 (five days ago) link

cancer treatment, etc etc etc

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:14 (five days ago) link

yes!! and that will legitimize and destigmatize and that is good.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:15 (five days ago) link

lmao my brain was going the opposite direction and I was thinking "yes, there will be more labs doing work on marijuana genetics and breeding"

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:21 (five days ago) link

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Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:28 (five days ago) link

dankest weed moonshot starts now

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:37 (five days ago) link

happy 4/30 yall

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:39 (five days ago) link

think the corporate weed move will be lowering THC content so that you can buy a pack of Marlboro joints that don't paralyze the average person (also that increase addictiveness somehow) plus all the exotic cannabinoids present naturally in small amounts that supposedly cause weight loss/etc..

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:40 (five days ago) link

market segmentation, for sure

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:23 (four days ago) link


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