The Rolling Stones - Blue & Lonesome

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Getting back to the Stones, I'm glad to see they're giving props to Little Johnny Taylor. For some reason I thought he was still alive, but he's been gone since 2002. Not a Chicago guy, either, from Arkansas and made his career in L.A. The song the Stones cover was done for Ronn in Shreveport and was a big hit in 1971.
Interested to find out just how much substantive reporting was being done in the '60s on black popular music--did Jet write about it at length? I think Jim Delehant at Hit Parader often covered black acts. But I suppose what rock crit there was at the time was focused on the San Francisco bands, the British Invasion groups and whatever white bands hit the top 40. Was anyone writing about soul in depth? (I guess blues was recognized as a sacrosanct topic, but again, how much substantive writing was being done on contemporary blues, apart from people like David Evans, who were writing about "country" blues?).

Edd Hurt, Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

'Just Your Fool' most reminds me of their really straight but really effective cover of 'Stop Breaking Down'

nomar, Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

Interesting, Edd. I only know Johnnie Taylor, don't think I've heard of Little Johnny Taylor before.

LL Cantante (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link

Little Johnny and Johnnie are often confused with one another. Little Johnny's claim to fame is his recording of "Part Time Love," from 1963. Howard Tate also did it. Fantasy has a one-disc comp, Greatest Hits, that's pretty much all you need, though I'm partial to his 1972 Ronn LP Everybody Knows About My Good Thing.

Edd Hurt, Thursday, 13 October 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Don Was: "The record sounds very crude, very authentic," he said. "It captures the essence of what they are."
Ron Wood: "They are extremely great cover versions of Howlin' Wolf and Little Walter, among other blues people. But they really sound authentic. ... When we heard them back after not hearing them for a couple of months, we were, 'Who's that? It's you,' It sounded so authentic."

the rhythm section certainly sounds cruddy

j., Monday, 5 December 2016 00:51 (seven years ago) link

Old blues not a very high sonic bar to hurdle

calstars, Monday, 5 December 2016 00:52 (seven years ago) link

This is, I suppose, good, and Jagger's in good form as vocalist and harmonica player, but I don't care much for Chicago blues.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 December 2016 00:54 (seven years ago) link

The Stones should have been making records raw again like this one instead of screwing around with loops and all sorts of other BS. The sound on these tracks is great.

earlnash, Monday, 5 December 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

I don't care much for Chicago blues.

There's some shit you just don't say in public.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 5 December 2016 03:16 (seven years ago) link

"Old blues not a very high sonic bar to hurdle"

so not true if you're talking about the stuff they are covering on this album! the original stuff sounds awesome.

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:26 (seven years ago) link

can't believe they didn't record this at jack white's house direct-to-shellac and then make a 4 hour making of the album documentary for netflix. seems like the 2016 way to go.

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link

i'd like to see them go back to their 90's roots. they were masters of the authentic 10 minute remix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAVK6d13RS0

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

Just wanted to point out how perverse the Stones=authenticity argument is. Jagger basically invented tongue-in-cheek pop.

gospodin simmel, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:45 (seven years ago) link

Figured that goes without saying on ilm but I got triggered by some early posts itt.

gospodin simmel, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link

this is actually your trigger warning: Οὖτις

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:49 (seven years ago) link

What do you mean? Mick Jagger learned the harmonica from a blind drifter who did some work on his daddy's worm farm

Treeship, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:51 (seven years ago) link

keith's book was very straightforward about their origins. it was all right there. the snobby brit blues purists were definitely mentioned.

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link

I'm with Alfred. My tolerance for Chicago Blues is very low. That Delta shit, though? I can listen to that forever.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 5 December 2016 03:59 (seven years ago) link

he and Mick hated Brian Jones for being such a purist!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 December 2016 03:59 (seven years ago) link

Mick is my favorite thing about this record. He revels in the material. The band & guests are solid but nothing remarkable.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 5 December 2016 04:01 (seven years ago) link

they should have made this album with metallica. unplugged. at jack white's house.

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 04:02 (seven years ago) link

drum sound on this is so wack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGUhfg3PPb0

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 04:07 (seven years ago) link

the muffled version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEU6_vgBp10

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 04:08 (seven years ago) link

for awhile thought this might be mono but it's not, though it's mixed pretty down the middle

would be kind of full circle if this were their last album, all the way back to doing blues covers

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 December 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

I'm with Alfred. My tolerance for Chicago Blues is very low. That Delta shit, though? I can listen to that forever.

me too. I love the Muddy/Howlin Wolf/Bo Diddley's Chess stuff (ok and the Staples too, but they're kinda different/gospel) but that's about it.

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

they would never do it in a million years but i think it would be cool if they got good current songwriters to write the best "stones" songs that they could and have them record those. not jack white though.

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

alejandro escovido could do a good job he could prolly use the dough

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 December 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

seems like something Andy Partridge would be up for (although not ideally suited for either)

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

challenge people to write hit stones songs. but no guest appearances. and that goes double for jack white.

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

for a sec I thought you were suggesting Andy Partridge produce the Stones.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 December 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link

her satanic majesty's request II!

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 December 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

would love to hear a courtney barnett song for keith to sing. it would have to be less wordy than her own songs though...he might get confused.

scott seward, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link

Spoon has written a few.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 December 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

yeah Partridge could obviously nail the psych-period stuff (something I'm sure Keith and Mick are super-eager to revisit lol)

xp

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:48 (seven years ago) link

this should be the title track of their next album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSdkrzqI8m0

tylerw, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

alejandro escovido could do a good job he could prolly use the dough

Always wanted to hear Jagger sing "Castanets".

juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy), Monday, 5 December 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

escovedo has a decent cover of 'evening gown' from jagger's 'wandering spirit' album on a bloodshot record comp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVZjtQF7OIg

nomar, Monday, 5 December 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

that 'fancy man blues' has the sound of an early '90s alligator/telarc blues album.

nomar, Monday, 5 December 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link

I love the Muddy/Howlin Wolf/Bo Diddley's Chess stuff (ok and the Staples too, but they're kinda different/gospel) but that's about it.

― Οὖτις, Monday, December 5, 2016 10:39 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Have you tried the Otis Rush Cobra label stuff? Dude was a beast on the guitar. Also, have you checked out the Junior Wells/Buddy Guy records (Hoodoo Man Blues etc.)? Much to dig there as well.

a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link

JB Hutto & the Hawks are dope

Slim Harpo isn't really from Chicago (iirc) but feels like it

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 December 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

magic sam
little walter
jimmy dawkins

nomar, Monday, 5 December 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

Hound Dog Taylor, Magic Sam and Luther Allison all made some real fine music too.

earlnash, Monday, 5 December 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

ooh yeah I dig Hound Dog Taylor

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 December 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

this is a good album

akm, Monday, 5 December 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

^^

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 5 December 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link

this album tbqf has the best aspects of the chicago blues sound, it's a lot better than i thought it would be.

nomar, Tuesday, 6 December 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it's pretty raw
Would be cool if this was a jumping off point to a cool album of originals like Dylan's folk cover albums did but doubt it

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link

Hoodoo Man Blues

everyone should listen to this album

a but (brimstead), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 02:02 (seven years ago) link


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