AMC zombie series from Frank 'Majestic' Darabont - The Walking Dead

Lol! going all Gaspar Noe isn't going to revive this corpse, it should have been canned at least 2 or 3 seasons ago. The problem is no matter how bad it gets - it still seems to maintain decent audiences.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/24/13378876/the-walking-dead-season-7-premiere-recap-review-end-of-quitters-club

The Quitter’s Club is closed.

Our Quitting Likelihood after "The Day Will Come When You Won’t Be":

100%

it lost me earlier this year when, after building carol into one of the most formidable and satisfying characters anywhere, decided to throw it all away by making her go soft and emo for no apparent reason. now i'm only staying on to see how bad/funny it gets, hoping for the odd "clear"-grade episode to make it worthwhile.

(the glenn fake-out was crap too obv, but at the time it felt like a misstep, not a pattern of behaviour)

So no one is watching this?

hell no

I am. It's terrible and I hate myself.

That verge article is funny to me. Glenn getting his face bashed was their breaking point, not a son cutting his younger sister out of his mother, or a young girl killing her sister, or the old man uselessly getting his head cut off, etc. I have friends who read the comic and have been telling me for awhile now that someone is coming who is worse than the Governor and that everything will get very dark. I'm still on board with the Walking Dead.

we put it on, the show is slow/stupid/manipulative, we lose interest and do other things. eventually we'll take a shortcut and just stop putting it on. it's not the dumb writing decisions that'll kill ratings, it's this.

I really enjoyed last Sunday's episode. Tara is a great addition as a main character. I'm looking forward to where all of this is going. No one is enjoying this show anymore?

action sequence occurs, action music plays to tell you it's an action sequence. clearly alive character is clearly alive on screen, talking head says "she's alive". this has become a show to watch while you're doing the ironing.

I'm still watching, though I've been in the increasingly frustrated 'not sure why I'm still watching' brigade for a while now. I've just started Season 7 and at this point I'm going to persevere pretty much whatever happens (already made it through episode 1's brutality), but if I can summon the energy or enthusiasm I have a huge amount of criticism and all-out moaning to do.

we put it on, the show is slow/stupid/manipulative, we lose interest and do other things. eventually we'll take a shortcut and just stop putting it on.

this happened. recently i tried to catch up where we left off (episode 4/5?), saw michonne walking down a deserted road (again) and immediately lost interest.

the story has been told. unless something properly major happens, like the world is cured or zombies evolve into scientists, it's just going to keep forcing a drawn-out underdog plot out of this negan/saviour thing, and presumably plant hooks into the ftwd spin-off which apparently is even worse.

it's a sad indictment when z nation starts as a frivolous cash-in and ends up being the better show.

I'm still watching, though I've been in the increasingly frustrated 'not sure why I'm still watching' brigade for a while now. I've just started Season 7 and at this point I'm going to persevere pretty much whatever happens (already made it through episode 1's brutality), but if I can summon the energy or enthusiasm I have a huge amount of criticism and all-out moaning to do.

― NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Thursday, 19 January 2017 11:39 (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

watching a show collapse can be more fascinating than watching it at its peak, because what they're doing wrong can reveal what they once did right. takes incredible stamina though.

I never thought this show was that good, but I have definitely enjoyed it, some times more than others. I can't pinpoint any consistent peak, but on the flip-side things have just seemed to get increasingly poor as season 6 progressed, mainly in the writing stakes to me. It seemed they were tediously belabouring dull plot points while rushing through or side-lining potentially interesting ones.

I got myself up to date on season 7 over the last few weeks and actually quite enjoyed it, especially the last two episodes where they brought multiple storylines together rather than pursuing a single arc per episode. Still a lot of problems, but hey ho. I have to admit I'm looking forward to the latter half of season 7. Any other ilxors on board still?

I'm still on board! Midseason premiere was great. My only complaint is AMC's not letting a show run the full season.

It's been a while since I've read the trade covering the current episodes, but I don't remember either the Amazons or the group at the end of this premiere. Were either of them in the comic? I remember the Negan resistance being just Alexandria, the Hilltop, and the Kingdom.

Still feels overly manipulative as this episode's toothy henchman is an over-the-top bully, slapping the truck repeatedly to get his point across, so that the viewer hopes his demise will be a highlight. Same with pretty much every male on Negan's side, and many of the females - they're slavering bullies, and lend no credence to the "but what if we'd been following Negan since the beginning and our sympathies were with him?" argument against Rick and the Alexandria folk. Negan's group is just the Stanford Prison Experiment actualized.

Glen's humanity is missed.

when Tara was in the Amazon's camp they talked about having their men getting slaughtered so they were on the run until they settled in the current hideout

I haven't kept up as such but it's sometimes been on in the same room as me so I've tangentially been following. That midseason premiere was shockingly good by TWD's standards (adequate by normal standards). Characters talking to each other! With humour at times! Things happening! And Negan (worst, least menacing, most nonsensical villain to date which is saying something) kept firmly off screen.

But every single character beat is so artificial, the plot drags everyone and everyone after it rather than being driven by organic or even realistic characters and events. Like, even in this episode I assume Rosita was snippy with Sasha out of nowhere, despite making up in literally the last episode, because the writers have to clunkily set up one of them saving the other at some point.

Maybe it's just because of the few weeks break that I'm not used to it, but the dialogue felt terrible in this episode. It was so clunky in the non-action scenes. The one big action scene on the highway was really excellent, but I could have done with a little more throughout the episode.

I thought it would be the community that Tara met that reappeared to join the fight, but these seem folks at the end seem to be something new again. I'm also sure Ezekial will come round too, though probably only when the Saviours cross the line and do something bad to his people, sadly.

Are you ready for...20 seasons!

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/03/walking-dead-scott-gimple-paleyfest-20-years

The fact that they're committed through 12 seasons already gives pause.

I really really really really don't know why I watch this stupid show.

Frank Darabont in How To Win Friends and Influence People

http://io9.gizmodo.com/frank-darabonts-furious-emails-to-his-walking-dead-cowo-1796879424

he seems nice

tbf most of the people working on TWD *do* appear to be idiots

just finished season 7 on netflix. i didn't hate it but there was absolutely no reason for them not to kill the Savior people every single time they showed up for an offering. why Carl didn't kill Negan 20 times over when he was making Carl spaghetti(!!) is beyond me. why Carl didn't kill him when he was standing in front of Negan in the back of that truck and carrying a huge gun is WAY beyond me. why give up all your guns? just kill them all as soon as they drive up to your gate. it just seemed so phony that they would take so much shit for such a loooooong time. all the way to the last episode. and rick vowing to kill him in the first and last episode in the same way was beyond pathetic.

it was a little too much to overlook. it was the basis of the whole season and it didn't really make sense. they should have been out for blood from day 1.

and i know the whole numbers explanation. but who cares. just start picking them off already. just to spare us from all those long "hilarious" baseball bat monologues at the very least.

Were there zombies?

this shouldve been 3 seasons tops.

i know its dumb to have problems with the PLOT of this show of all shows. but i loved season 6 so much. and this was just too dumb. this is the group that cleared an entire prison of zombies with 10 people.

Don't need to tell you, because you're a smart grown up, but unless you are being paid to watch there is no reason to not bail on a show. I can't even remember when I stopped watching the show, but given its repetitive nature I'm not sure it even matters.

i have to watch it.

carol is probably my favorite character on t.v.

in season 7 she spent the entire season trying to get a little reading done. WORST hermit shack ever. *"Stately, plump Buck Mulligan....oh, darn, who's at the door now...?"

which was so sad. you can do the retired gunslinger/"i'm getting too old for this shit" thing for like 3 episodes tops before i start to get mad.

they don't even bother with good intros anymore. it's just someone asking someone else if they want a cup of coffee and then they cut to the ominous intro credits.

but, yeah, negan. like having your arch enemy being the manager of a tire warehouse. he's no governor. even though he's pretty much the same character.

i kinda dug the garbage people though. and their conan the barbarian warrior skeleton. too bad they turned out to be jerks. also completely implausible that nobody knew they existed.

i did enjoy easy street. have to throw that in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoQ4GidQP-k

watching the Walking Dead with Rufus now that he's old enough to take the scary. he wanted to watch it. haven't watched those old seasons since i first saw them years ago. and now i feel more for Shane! i couldn't wait for Shane to go when I first watched the show but now i just see such an obvious trauma victim. he's so fucked up. i mean he was still probably a dick in the old world but now i just see pain. and he's better in some scenes than i remember. he can definitely be a hokey actor, but he gets at that hidden rage (when he's away from people and not raging at them) and pain pretty effectively. and his face is so insane. his whole face looks like a broken nose.

I crack up every time Shane speaks. Like when they're burying Otis and he gets asked to say a few words and he's basically this guy

https://media1.giphy.com/media/t7FHYvBkSRpHW/giphy.gif

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_TCLgLCz6G4

"His whole face looks like a broken nose" is otm and a really cool phrase, Scott. Catching up on season seven (for some reason) and jfc Rosita is possibly the stupidest character to ever be in this show (which is saying something). "Hi I'm one small person, my idiotic "schemes" have already gotten one person killed but hey, I think I can take on an entire community of ruthlessly mentally conditioned killers, get through them to their leader, and totally kill him". Also Morgan is a dangerous lunatic but he's presented sympathetically, so. And it'd be kinda cool if just one person looked up the word "disingenuous" for use when dealing with the Saviours.

That being said I'm like 16 episodes in.

i quit this show after the season 6 finale.

Wise

the moment eugene was revealed to be a fraud was the moment i realised this show was never going to progress beyond a few dozen people forever refusing to just neck themselves. and then the s7 (?) opener was so fucking hamfisted i didn’t even care enough to be angry. apparently it’s still all about negan and his token bad guy routine.

There are some genuinely great episodes but it's been a long while since the last one

I somehow pushed on through season 7 but still haven't generated enough enthusiasm to start season 8.

never get to hear "CORALLLLLL!!!!!" again.

i didn't think anything could be as maddening and dumb as last season but this show is really trying to prove me wrong.

Curious if the changeout of Scott Gimple as showrunner is due to the widespread dissatisfaction with the last few seasons of the show.

My own interest is gauged by the use of the Comcast 'fwd 5 minutes' remote option, and I've been using it often last season and this one. Thought I was completely done, post-Glen demise, but instead I'm just zipping through each episode in 5-10 minutes to keep current.

christ is this thing still going

yep, the reports of the death of TV's Golden Age were greatly exaggerated and premature!

i can't really defend anything about it anymore. there is no defense. season 6 is still my favorite season though. and that's longer than a lot of people lasted as far as watching the thing. i only care about carol and rosita and michonne. everyone else can die.

death of carl was actually pretty well done i just don't really care at this late date. we all gotta go sometime.

i feel bad for danai gurira that she's still bound to this show after delivering such a boundlessly charismatic performance in black panther, hopefully she can get killed off soon and go on to the bigger and better things she absolutely deserves