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thats the question that im struggling with--because mom has been really sick, and the church has been so good to her, and i dont know--i miss deeply the sense of understanding and the openness to community that i see there, last week a missionary said to me that there were no clsoed meetings in the lds church, and i didnt know that--and i mean as a fag it hurts deeply, but maybe the people on this thread are right, it hurt deeply (as) when the catholic church did it...

anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 10:21 (eighteen years ago) link

anthony - you can get the same sense of community and belonging from a church other than the Mormon or Catholic church. And hopefully you can find one that lets you belong without prying too much into your personal life or judging you for your past and current sins, if that makes sense. Shop around and find one that best fits your beliefs. I grew up a Mormon too (and in Utah), but I chose to leave after high school because I just didn't fit. I mean, I enjoyed the sense of family and that everyone actually cared about what happened to me, but I didn't think like everyone else. I was too independent and open-minded to be a good Morman woman. My husband is Catholic and I see much of the same problems in the Catholic church as in the Mormon. Actually, a lot of it is eerily similar and it makes me laugh when people still call the LDS church a cult. Anyway -- look in the church directory in your local paper or in the yellow pages. Go to as many as it takes until you find the perfect fit. You sound awfully lonely, and going someplace where they think you can be cured will only make you worse, no matter how tempting that old community feeling may be.

Rebekkah (burntbrat), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
Reviving... Apparently the debut of Big Love on HBO is stirring up some old stories. This one I hadn't seen before...

Inbreeding among polygamists along the Arizona-Utah border is producing a caste of severely retarded and deformed children

The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, this original thread killed me back when I first read it.

a plastic waterfall

at the end...it seriously made me cry. Touching.

Someone tell me how Big Love is if they watch it. FLDS folx are fucked-up. I have a hard time believing real polyamory/polgamy/polyandry exists, but if it's among consenting adults, that's one thing. All these scary-ass go-nowhere towns out in BFE that are basically incest mills are creepy and evil as anything. That's FLDS polygamy. Growing up Mormon is scary enough, and sexually awkward enough, without your uncle claiming to be prophet of the whole town so all the little daughters can marry their dad's brothers at 14.

Abbott (Abbott), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

"Big Love" was really average.

Although I must admit to thinking of Harry Reid while watching it.

don weiner (don weiner), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

MORMONS ARE JERKS

swinburningforyou, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link

thats a stereotype

deeznuts, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link

We get a lot of American Mormons on my street doing missionary work. This must be their version of being sent to the Russian Front.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:39 (sixteen years ago) link

apparently they send them everywhere

i mean, if you've heard that origin story about the Joseph Smith, the golden plates, and martin and lucy harris and you still think they have a valid point...

(i feel this way about all religions, but with mormons and scientology, its just a whole new lever of stupid)

swinburningforyou, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link

If I had a big enough lever of stupid I could lift the whole Earth.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link

swin burning for you? wtf does that mean?

chaki, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link

damn! level*

swinburningforyou, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link

wtf @ u

chaki, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean, if you've heard that origin story about the Joseph Smith, the golden plates, and martin and lucy harris and you still think they have a valid point...

waaahhhht? That is like one of the more clearly dubious parts!

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link

do you believe Adam and Eve were from the midwest, chaki?

swinburningforyou, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know what the hell yr on about...are you mormon?

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??
xpst

chaki, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

W4LTER, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

He has discovered that some religions might not be very plausible.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

And now we're all living in the aftermath of that discovery, minds blown, jaws agape.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

bcz they are "jerks" hahahaha

chaki Mormons believe the Garden of Eden was in Missouri...I think he is thinking you share that belief because you said 'wtf' at him as he is clearly making almost no sense

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

honestly, im just looking for a fight...

swinburningforyou, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

and i think im making tons of sense. mormons are jerks.

swinburningforyou, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link

well this is one fucking retarded attempt @ a flamewar bcz I don't think you'll find any mormons here, for real

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link

swinburning is basing his theories on a couple of South Park episodes, conveniently forgetting that the Mormons are actually portrayed fairly positively in their twenty minutes of parker/stone treatment.

Just got offed, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link

The ones I meet are polite, well turned-out young men. Or hotties.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link

have you met mormons new harranguey duder?

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, i forgot, south park wrote the book of mormon...thanks for reminding me.

abbott, i was pretty sure i wouldn't find any mormons, but i was willing to give it a shot...

and there are plenty of attractive jerks of all religions

swinburningforyou, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I rly think the only way you could say they are "jerks" is if you've been in the system like 10+ years and seen all the behind the scenes shit but yes they are often quite kind people

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link

go to a fucking mormon board then, jesus

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link

im a handsome jew

chaki, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Trying to start a fight with some imaginary people you don't know because they are "jerks": C/D?

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link

And btw flaming them won't change their mind one bit, they'll just think "poor misguided soul" and bare their testimonies over and over. V funny dude!

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link

ARE THERE ANY ZOROASTRIANS ON HERE? WANKERS

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link

HEY BAHA'I FUCKERS YOU ARE DISLIKED BY ME

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Boy all the Snake Handlers on here sure are dumb.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

lol Baha'i always seems like such a peaceful religion.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link

no, i know thats how they will react. one of my best friends became a born again mormon last year.

im a kind of ugly jerk agnostic who is bored

swinburningforyou, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't stand that offshoot board, "I Love My Ecumenical Pastor."

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:07 (sixteen years ago) link

We should start a thread about Racist Mithraists.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

dude i fucking met a zoroastrian in the pub the other day NO REALLY I DID

unsurprisingly, he wasn't "practising".

Just got offed, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Do they not do alcohol then? I mean come on, wasn't Freddie Mercury a Zoroastrian?

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i was just about to ask that

swinburningforyou, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Again it seems like quite a chill religion.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link

he was drinking alcohol. he wasn't a practising zoroastrian is what i meant to say, merely a zoroastrian by birth. much as i'm greek orthodox by christening.

Just got offed, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link

they all suck too. im gonna go watch law and order SVU

swinburningforyou, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway LJ, if you could hook swinburnginging up he could phone this guy up and tell him that Zoroaster's a wanker or something.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Also Wanked Zarathustra

Noodle Vague, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG LJ did they wave censers all over you?

Abbott, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i've got so many thetans i could probably explode their BRAINS if i wanted, them darned zoroastriologists.

Just got offed, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link


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