MoMA's new admission price $20???

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I dunno, I feel like you're trying to pick a fight but I have no idea what it's about.

you must be new here...

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, I feel like you're trying to pick a fight but I have no idea what it's about.

this is exactly how I feel!

I don't think you're understanding what my point has been, which was, afterall, about the larger American culture shift towards illogical, possibly rigged-but-declared-free markets over the past 30 years, which has been EXPLICIT Republican policy (and co-opted on occassion by Democrats as well) -- and how the privatization of arts subsidies, CEO salaries, industry de-regulation, etc. (NOT museum director salaries) fit into that. Hell, the only reason that dude's salary was in there was because I didn't edit it out of the Post editorial I was quoting from!

And if you're really going to claim an "us" (who got called Republicans) vs. me, then I dunno anymore. If you truly don't believe "free market" Republican rhetoric (as I don't), then why get offended?

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Plenty of Republicans are against inflated CEO salaries by the way. It's because they also tend to own stock.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sure there are quite a few pro-choice Republicans too, but they haven't exactly been running policy these past 30 years.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Well Stencil I wasn't particularly offended, actually -- just sorta weirded out, cause it seemed like you were taking me and Amateurist to task for having even mentioned words like "market" and "supply and demand" in the fairly innocuous, non-political, and even kind of ironic ways we did. Cuz see you got kinda sniffy up there and called everyone crypto-Republicans, or whatever. It's like someone said "cookie" and then you got really heated up and kinda "how can you say that about cookies, you terrible person," and we were all, "I dunno, we were just mentioning cookies, it's not a big thing."

Back to the issue: I don't have $20, and therefore won't be going to MoMA.

― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

The two issues aren't parallel-- only CEOs benefit from inflated salaries and everyone else loses. The vast majority of people, even Republicans, aren't CEOs. Many ordinary people, on the other hand, are pro-life.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

no, the issues of CEO salaries and abortion aren't parallel, and that was clearly not the point I was trying to make. The point is that there are many disparate elements in the Republican Party, but that doesn't mean those elements have any political power, ie. Log Cabin Republicans just for starters.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

shocking admission: i haven't actually visited the museum part of moma for over 10 years. i've been at the movie theater a bunch of times though.

let's drop this republican red herring back in the water shall we?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, the issue is not CEO salaries, though I think the larger issue of market infiltration of everything is relevant.

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Hstencil is making some interesting points about free markets and how they've become accepted conventional wisdom. It would be interesting to start a thread about it, but I don't want to belabor the issue on this thread.

BTW, it appears that they are keeping the policy of free admission on Friday evenings from 4-8pm.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever been during the free Friday thing? (I haven't) Was it already horrifically crowded? Do you think it will get even more crowded now with the upped admission?

― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

With this and the recent "rockist" threads it seems were entering a postNuILX phase.

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Personally, I have no problem paying $20 for admission to MoMA. Actually since membership is $75 ($60 for people who live 150 miles or further from NYC) I'll probably pay less than $20 per admission during a year.

― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Out of curiosity, has anyone ever been during the free Friday thing?

Yeah, I've been in years past 4 or 5 times. One of those times it was almost unbearably crowded. The other times it was like a weekend's volume, not too crowded that I didn't enjoy myself.

― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link

good first date idea, or alternatively, bad first date idea.

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

It's weird for me to go to museums here in Chicago after living outside of DC for so long and getting used to free admission. The aquarium is like $20, the Museum of Science and Industry is about $10 plus more if you want to see any of special exhibits, etc. The Art Institute is just a "suggested donation" of $5 though, which is worth it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

too low

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Our cultural history should only be exposed to those who can afford to appreciate it.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Our cultural history is only made for those who can afford to appreciate it.

― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

My MoMA art installation would be to take every $20 bill that comes in during a day and tape it to a wall of the museum. The wall would start out empty and then be covered in $20s by the end of the day.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

My art installation would be to take all the $20 bills and spend them on hookers and drugs.

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

And THAT's why you're a Republican!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Apropos of nothing else being discussed here, they've also chopped down all of, or most of, the trees in front of the building. On the day that they were doing so, I was walking past and overheard one of the workers saying "My god, today's the day they're cutting them all down." He sounded so shocked. I hope, that with the new fees, they can afford to replace them.

― Nermina (Nermina), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

they will be replaced with giant plastic phalluses designed by matthew barney

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

And they will be scratch & sniff.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 5 October 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I was just in Boston and went to their MFA. It was $16 for entry and $22 for entry with admission to the special art deco exhibit. I searched in vain for a "suggested donation" clause and couldn't find one. I figured if I was going to pay $16 I may as well pay $22 and see the special exhibit.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Last time I was at the MoMA i bought fake tickets off some sketchy dude outside for $5. Walked right in.

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.rit.edu/~ayh3152/images/futurism.jpg

― kephm, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

IM TOO LAZY TO READ THIS WHOLE THREAD.

But anyone that goes to Moma at any other time then Friday evenings...i.e. PAY WHAT YOU WISH. deserves to get gauged.

― DEEBZ (ddb), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

there are always cute artfags on friday nights. thats why i go

― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that's what DDB was saying, Phil.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I nearly take offence at DDB's e-mail address.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

WORD.

It's funny...most of the people that are bitching dont even go to MOMA all that frequently...so what's $20. and the membership is staying at $75 for all y'allz that go a lot.

BUT FRIDAY IS THE JUMP OFF @ MOMA & WHITNEY.
& THURSDAY AT THE GUGGIE IS FREE.
AND PAYING FOR PS 1 IS JUST DUMB.

― DEEBZ (ddb), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

XPOST TO CASUISTRY

WHY?

― DEEBZ (ddb), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

$20 is not a lot. END OF STORY.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link

it is to me! I'm fucking broke.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

If you're broke, you need to focus on something other than art. Therefore, an art museum is a non-issue.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

To explain the joke to death: Because "puma" is very close to my last name.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

but since I'm broke, I need some place cheap to go to occupy my time!

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

There are plenty of free galleries. Shush.

― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

oh who wants to see new art? I want to see MODERN art.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

ha!

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 7 October 2004 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link

stence: i am going to make a habit of going to gallery opening and eating their snacks. YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME ALONG.

also, deebz has a super valid point: going when you have to pay $20 is stupid when you can wait a few days and go for free.

― Helios Creed (orion), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Some people might like to avoid crowds. I can sympathize.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link

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― why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Dude sneaks his own art into 4 major NYC museums. Security rocks.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Mind you, I find this very amusing.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Better than stealing, but Tom Green did it already.

― Jimmy Mod Has Returned With Spices And Silks (ModJ), Friday, 25 March 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

My sister inspired me to do it. She was throwing away loads of my pictures one day and I asked her why. She said 'It's not like they're going to be hanging in the Louvre."

― kephm, Friday, 25 March 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

weird! i was just reading about 'banksy' yesterday.

― jermaine (jnoble), Friday, 25 March 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago) link

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