...poch spurs are kind essentially a...
― ogmor, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link
yeah. total lack of incision or will to risk the ball.
except for son to ill effect and walker in his own fucking box.
the other trend noticeable without alderweireld is that we defend appallingly. the opposition need only have the ball for a fraction of the time and show nothing more than competence in order to destroy us.
poch out
― the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link
really feel like the team needs one or two decadent creative players with no defensive duties to lurk and provide sudden bursts of incision because everyone is a scrapper atm
On paper the obvious candidates are Eriksen and Son. Son is completely ill-suited to the CF role - we briefly looked much more balanced when he switched to the left and Janssen came on. Previously there were so many moments when Alli would play a ball through that he failed to anticipate in the way that a proper CF would - unsurprisingly really as Son should be one of the people playing that ball rather than receiving it. Kane's movement off the ball is often excellent and compensates for his lack of pace.
Eriksen has been playing inside himself all season and has had fewer decisive moments than I've ever seen from him. Something's not right there.
We were right in front of Walker for most of the second half and it was really obvious how he would prefer to negotiate some kind of painfully awkward comedy turn with an attacker bearing down on him rather than just put the ball onto his left foot.
Sissoko is powerful but his decision-making is execrable. Consistently.
Dier is a much better DM than a CB and looks very nervous at this level, as does Vertonghen without Toby alongside him.
Pretty much the only new signing to have settled properly is Wanyama, who was also the only Spurs player to have a half-decent game yesterday. Maybe Lloris as well but Leverkusen didn't seem too bothered about scoring until it actually happened.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 November 2016 13:06 (seven years ago) link
Speaking as a Leverkusen supporter we more or less just lucked out (for once, given the last weeks) in eventually taking one of the many chances forced on us by Spurs regularly dropping the ball in a hair-rising situation. Nothing of interest in terms of offensive accomplishment coming from our side as well, but this is most probably just Roger Schmidt's ideal of a perfectly executed game.
― the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Thursday, 3 November 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link
Dier is abysmal as a CB. Enormously lucky.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link
commentator here described his challenge as 'rudimentary' and then 'agricultural' (?)
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link
score?
― identity politics rooted in tolkienism (darraghmac), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link
0-0. Spurs are poor tho Monaco extremely lucky not to have a man sent off at the end of 1st half
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link
Borussia Dortmund 5 Legia Warsaw 2 - after 32 minutes.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link
This is an absolute joke.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link
lol
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link
I hope CSKA win at Wembley. Spurs don't even deserve be in the Europa League.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link
The Dortmund match is now 7-4.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link
Good riddance to Spurs. Theyve been atrocious
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link
I’d like to say Spurs are going out with a bong. But given the slackness of their performance, it would almost be more appropriate to say going out with a bong. But let’s not.
put down the bong
― Number None, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link
Dortmund 8 Legia 4
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link
presume that's a record?
― Number None, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link
Feyenoord beat KR Reykjavík 12–2 in the first round in 1969–70. This is the overall record for all European Cup/Champions League matches.Borussia Dortmund beat Legia Warsaw 8–4 in the group stage in 2016–17. This is the record for the Champions League era.
― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
Barcelona have a shot of beating it tomorrow night though.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link
luckily for me i have a day from hell in work tomorrow and won't have the time or inclination to follow how many goals the famous glasgow celtic are shipping
― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link
two maybe three decent performances since late April is the kind of thing that generated non-whimsical '[Spurs manager] out' talk back in the day, just sayin
― The Codling Of The London Suede (Legal Warning Across The Atlantic) (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link
I didn't watch the game but the expanded squad options have really fucked us. Even without injuries Poch has been rotating into systems for which we are manifestly unsuited. Also I miss Toby. When is he coming back?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 23:45 (seven years ago) link
I've been pochouttino for months but let's be serious here he's earned a lot of goodwill and he's not near spent it all
― identity politics rooted in tolkienism (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:17 (seven years ago) link
The Lamela injury hasn't exactly helped either - he's had some subpar performances this season but he's a sorely missed creative spark with Eriksen so out of sorts.
Guessing we'll deliberately tank the third Wembley game in order to try and avoid the Europa now. Hardly £150 well spent in any case. There's a lot to be said for reverting to last year's XI (give or take a Wanyama) as soon as we can.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 00:21 (seven years ago) link
Poch out is premature but starting a must-win game with Derby, Wimmer and Trippier at the back is straight up negligence. The whole CL campaign has been an embarrassment. It has been the holy grail for years and when achieved taken with the same seriousness as a Europa away leg vs Qarabag. It hasn't just been inept, it has been pathetic.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 06:36 (seven years ago) link
Dier*
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 06:38 (seven years ago) link
I'm starting to wonder how bad his falling out with Vertonghen was, and whether something escalated ahead of the game. Vertonghen has been poor in the CL but that back line was a disaster even on paper. His selections haven't made much sense throughout the tournament and it has looked like he's been resting players for Premier League ties the following weekend.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 11:03 (seven years ago) link
Yep, that's the assumption the TV commentators were working on as well - Vertonghen and Walker were being rested for the Chelsea game at the weekend.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 13:20 (seven years ago) link
Amazing early games - my boy Azmoun inspired Rostov to a 3-2 win over Bayern, Besiktas came back from 3-0 down at half time to draw.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link
Rte showing celtic AGAIN. game prob picked at start of the group tbf
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link
SV, did Bayern just throw the game or? They sank us to fourth. Which is probably for the best, to be out of Europe entirely. Already cant wait for this dreadful season to be over for us tbh
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link
(Not taking anything away from Rostov btw, they have been impressive against Ajax earlier, just a bit uneven at times)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link
No, Bayern were on top for most of the game and Rostov scored with pretty much all of their shots on target. It's a bit of a fluke but Bayern were ok.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
Good on Rostov though, they've made their mark and won't be a one day fly I think.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link
Benficas third goal was hilarious: they hit the crossbar, right post, left post and then scored.
― Jibe, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
I just came here to post that Benfica goal.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 24 November 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
look good here fwtw, eriksen in partic looks all sparkly.
lol dele windup
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link
lol dele windup x3 in five mins
That was offside but w/e
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link
fuckin clowns
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:19 (seven years ago) link
dier at cb ffs
That's better.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
Though arguably also offside.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link
theirs wasnt off afaict
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link
that were right good were that were
yeah thats clearly off
poch working on walkers possession game if tonights any evidence
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link
tbf i only saw it once - the Russian commentators were saying Dzagoev was offside xp
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:26 (seven years ago) link
How are they getting this much space on the break? Should be 1-2.
― Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link
weve no fullbacks defending, one cb and hes not really too bothered and wanyama isnt even covering very well.
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link
Leicester throwing a CL match. Fuck 2016.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link
been ok so far but the lack of any option for walker to pop a quick ball to feet in to son, alli or kane seems a glaring flaw
― loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link
ugh he's such a cunt
― Windsor Davies, Saturday, 3 June 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
Xpost Juve have looked knackered this whole 2nd half though. Oh God now Cuadrado is off
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 3 June 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
buffon should just break his leg and retire
― imago, Saturday, 3 June 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
ramos' leg
Stupid referee wtf
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 June 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
Oh you fucking prick Ramos.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 3 June 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link
Referee is the real prick there. Assumed he was sending Ramos off when the card came out
― Blandford Forum, Saturday, 3 June 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link
Fucking Ramos man.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 3 June 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
Well beaten tbh.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 June 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link
yeah they didn't come back out :(
― Windsor Davies, Saturday, 3 June 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
ynwa
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
time for a new thread eh
― gbx, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
my heart won't survive this team this year
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
ach it must be beyond hoffenheim already
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
never always in doubt
― gbx, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link
it prob is beyond them it's just this utterly bonkers football is torture. still wouldn't rule out at the v least a cagey finale.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
not too sure abt that goal celebration
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link
id like celtic and liverpool to be drawn in the same group tomorrow
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
guaranteed a ton of goals, "battle of britain" guff in the press, rodgers visiting anfield with new club, celtic and liverpool haven't played each other since 2003 (and celtic won).
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
Ya
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
didn't see the game -- were the two hoffenheim goals fluke-y or was it just bad defense again?
― gbx, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link
Wanna know what dunphy thinks
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link
First was very sloppy from open play
Second was a poorly defended cross
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link
PSG ne sera pas sur cette chose - It's the Champions League 2017-2018 thread
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 24 August 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link