By Hera! Come anticipate the WONDER WOMAN movie with me!

I'm not arguing against a Darwyn Cooke version of course, but I don't know that it's a massive betrayal not to have one.

What was that thing Gal Gadot and Lynda Carter were doing? I heard that Wonder Woman was supposed to be some sort of ambassador but how can you have a fictional ambassador? A lot of people were unhappy but it seems like people were more unhappy about it being a typically idealised white woman than it looking like a movie promotion.

a super muscular WW would probably scare the investors.

this does look cool. WWI as a setting has potential to be more interesting or nuanced than WWII. first season of the 70s TV show was all about fighting the Nazis over and over again, maybe they are trying to break from that.

I have never heard of Gal Gadot and she seems perfectly fine (and tall !) but I don't know, she seems a bit too... "normal" or bland for the role.
I would have imagined someone more badass, with more character.
Maybe I'm biased because Lynda Carter was one of my first crushes as a kid... that said I don't remember at all if she was that badass !

70s TV show was all about fighting the Nazis over and over again, maybe they are trying to break from that.

by fighting... 2nd Reich Germany !

i'm kind of surprise Lynda is that short! on her show she kind of towers over everyone. maybe they only hired short people?

or people were smaller then ?
I'm not sure there were that many 5 9" women around in the 70s.

(And, completely tangentially, I've totally bought into the argument that there's no real reason why Superman should be depicted as supermuscular. I guess the same could apply to Wonder Woman.)

I actually agree with that on Superman, since his power comes from the sun, and he's always been depicted as peaceful dude, so there's no need for him to lift weights or anything. But WW was born into a warrior culture and has gone through the toughest possible warrior training, so she should be muscly.

The superman disguise that him slouching makes him look non descript and therefore he can pass off as milquetoast Clark Kent would be heavily undermined by him being seriously buff wouldn't it?

Lynda Carter has a recurring role on the Supergirl tv series now and she's a fucking worse actress than Gal Godot if you can believe it.

i knew i could count on you all to make this thread as unexciting as possible

One of my fave clips of all time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu89K7nI8KY

Debra's Letterman interviews are gold.

i knew i could count on you all to make this thread as unexciting as possible

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The superman disguise that him slouching makes him look non descript and therefore he can pass off as milquetoast Clark Kent would be heavily undermined by him being seriously buff wouldn't it?

You could actually post the panels by Quitely here and prove your point?

supposed to be some sort of ambassador but how can you have a fictional ambassador?

what

i knew i could count on you all to make this thread as unexciting as possible

tbf Veg you're the one trying to be thrilled about a film produced by Zack Snyder and Geoff Johns

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/oct/21/wonder-woman-un-ambassador-staff-protest

This is the thing I was talking about

as long as snyder's not *directing* i'm all for it

remember when this guy was the Iranian ambassador to the UN though

http://66.media.tumblr.com/c2da3a5940bf16eb2082b80bc4206540/tumblr_nrgl4okBxP1trvouao1_500.jpg

That chin is nuts

you could fit a lot of nuts on that chin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INLzqh7rZ-U

looks good

http://www.flickfilosopher.com/wptest/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/chainedwonderwoman.jpg

its a teal and orange world

that's a full trailer and not a teaser? i don't know what type of film it is. action, back story, tragic scene, cg, explosion, one-liner, comedy.

i can imagine an exec going "what DCEU really needs is marvel's color scheme from 2011"

is Wonder Woman going to find out why the sun turned blue?

looks a hell of a lot better than snyder's super fuck-fest. which isn't really an endorsement, but baby steps...

yeah I like everything I've seen about this. I hate the Snyder movies and refuse to watch batman vs superman or have anything to do with suicide squad, but this looks to hit all the right buttons. Gal Godot is probably the one weak spot; she is absolutely drop dead gorgeous and amazing, but will she be able to convincingly act the part? I don't know. Maybe acting chops don't matter that much in this type of movie. I wouldn't say that dude who plays Captain America is any kind of good actor either and he's good enough for those films.

Other lessons they've learned from Marvel: blonde guys named Chris to the front!

still really squicked out that they've chosen to put wonder woman in the trenches of ww1

For reasons of taste? You don't usually see superheroes in a WWI context (mostly because they hadn't been invented yet) but there are few conflicts since that they haven't gotten involved in, both contemporaneously and after the fact

yeah, mainly - inserting a comic book character directly into the frontlines of one of the most appalling conflicts in history just seems really, really tasteless.

the reason the captain america movie didn't feature him liberating concentration camps or kicking dr mengele in the nuts was (i assume) at least partially out of concern for the optics of playing dress-up against the backdrop of real-life atrocity. and the nazis he did fight were literal comic-book villains. although superheroes have been involved in real-life conflicts in comics they're usually fighting super-powered villains, and on the one occasion i can think of offhand where that wasn't the case (dr manhattan in vietnam in watchmen) it was far from a positive depiction.

maybe there's additional context the trailers haven't shown or something but nuance and subtlety are not the hallmarks of previous dcu movies so i'm expecting something not too far removed in tone from the infamous post-9/11 spider-man story with doctor doom weeping with grief at the site of ground zero

greek accents -- a good sign!

Dude, you're aware that the first issue of Captain America literally has him punching Hitler on the front cover?

yeah - i'm also aware that captain america punching hitler during wartime 70 years ago as a conscious act of propaganda is not equivalent to making a piece of filmed entertainment which uses the backdrop of real-life horror as an instant just-add-gravitas device

and is also the reason i specifically referred to the captain america movie, not the comic, and mentioned 'kicking dr mengele' in the nuts instead of punching hitler because i'm aware he does punch someone acting the part of hitler during the movie

Would rather see Wonder Woman in the trenches of 1977.

you should should read/see DC's New Frontier where Wonder Woman goes into Vietnam for a bit and chastizes Superman for staying out of it, it's good

for whatever reason, i'm not at all troubled by the use of WWI trench warfare, horrible as it was, as a "colorful" backdrop in a lighthearted fantasy adventure film. Same goes for just about every theater of WWII combat (excluding the German concentration camps, of course). That said, I'd probably be squicked out if Diana of Themyscira were chasing adventure & romance amid the Tutsi genocide in Rwanda.

you should should read/see DC's New Frontier

Sounds just right - thanks!

Captain America not punching any Nazis was the lamest and shittiest part of the movie. I think there's a way to do it that's, if not "tasteful," sort of within a genre that I don't think induces pain in audiences descended from victims of the Nazis. Raiders of the Lost Ark just about pulls it off, and I think it works because it's a comic movie with considerably more heft, oomph, and belief in its comic book cast than most of the recent ones, and because it's by a Jewish director who relates to the war in part through growing up on comic books and pulp serials. The closest he can get to expressing his anger at the regime is through this character and his cartoonishly solid punches, and the audience cheering when all the Nazis get blown away by the Jewish god.

I will say I loved the way they had Cap in a badly-received USO troupe deal - that was a pretty cool, fresh way to set it in-period. I thought they could have built from that to real Nazi-fighting, in a way that speaks to the most optimistic view of why someone like Steve Rogers would want to sign up for the war: to stop the Nazis. But then once he's actually out there fighting, it's against faceless, bloodless, PG-13 Hydra goons --- and alongside a history-rewriting integrated army unit. That's when it actually feels tacky and trivializing... the war is just a convenient backdrop to the disappointing, underwritten story. If they do that with Wonder Woman then yeah, it's dumb. If it turns into Paths of Glory, where the war's real inhumanity is pushed front and center, then you might have something. I would probably settle for some in-between like Raiders but I'm not sure anybody involved has a WW1 hook as strong as Spielberg's WW2 hook, to give it a real soul energizing the popcorn silliness.

http://2015wubucket.s3.amazonaws.com/giantape.jpg

too bad the movie isn't using this plotline

saving it for second-sequel crossover with the Kong Cinematic Universe, obv.

Kong ain't got nothing on Gorilla Grodd

https://twitter.com/Gotham/status/859215268572143616

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This is the first Snyderverse movie that I might see, but I'm sure as shit waiting for the reviews to come in first.

that trailer don't sit good w/ me for reasons I can't rly put my finger on

Well we're almost a week out. Supposedly good buzz? Seeing it next Thursday evening in any event.

My comic book nerd friend made a good observation. The trailers are light and fun and funny, but ... something super dark has to happen at the end of this to make her vanish until Batman v. Superman, right? He figured that plus the WWI setting may mean this movie is more grim than they are letting on.

Yup, pretty much. I'm guessing Chris Pine dies heroically, the British steal Themysciran technology to create the atom bomb, something to that effect

not sure why that's a surprise to anyone

Saw this two weeks ago -- a bit if all right as far as superhero things go. At least the action was intelligible.

Can the fuller story be seen elsewhere?

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fVArhMNLAXcJ:https://medium.com/%40imasurvivor/heres-how-gal-gadot-actually-responded-when-her-friend-raped-me-7aa7a2bea919+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

Warning: really pretty unpleasant reading. Starts off with her blaming a 15 year old victim for being raped, goes downhill from there.

This is good this is.

*spit take*

He's not wrong.

i liked it too, it just seemed uh dmac-proof to me

ITT Deems and Tombot agree on a movie

The last act drags but the first is a doozy and the second balances comic booky and plot furtherance well.

And uh gadot

The cognitive dissonance between her relentless naivete and her book learnin' was very weird and funny to me, generally not in a good way

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 13:41 (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are u ppl kidding me or yourselves more in this place that's what I ask myself

Well, this is interesting news.

So excited to confirm the most thrilling news. Yes! It’s true! So incredibly lucky to welcome the sensationally talented Kristen Wiig to our Wonder Woman family. Can't wait to finally work with one of my favorites. And SO excited by what we have planned. #Cheetah!!! @GalGadot pic.twitter.com/Gn0jICiIAH

— Patty Jenkins (@PattyJenks) March 9, 2018

Wiig plays a hard-boiled undercover detective determined to find out who killed her father, Sir Patrick Morgan

huh, so i guess she's playing cheetah? guess we'll have to wait another few years before that wonder woman / egg fu bigscreen face-off that fans have been clamouring for

and this should be Cheetah in the 1980s, right? should be interesting

Great trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GQ5mWYwTtQ

not a fan of orchestral blue monday tbh

kinda dreading the explanation of how chris pine is alive but also happy to see him cuz chris pine is good fuiud

It's actually nice seeing DC get its shit together

I never knew I wanted to see Wonder Woman wreck Pentagon City mall until now, but I do!!

the first one was a bit over-long (why do these films always have one too many climactic battles?) but Gadot and the overall tone was great, will totally see this w my daughter

looks cool, not toooo much LOL 80's stuff going on, wish they'd just used the original Blue Monday though.

why do these films always have one too many climactic battles?

in their own way and in a different medium, they are replicating all those romantic symphonies that strive for a 'big finish' so long and overwrought as to leave their audience wrung out with induced emotion. when I hear those symphonies now I experience those climax-piled-on-climax endings as a musical joke instead of a passionate catharsis.

(I'm looking at you, Gustav Mahler!)

this might be the first one of these big budget superhero movies that is "not a hoax! not a dream! not an imaginary story!"
could unlock a subgenre of elseworlds? marvel is already doing a "what if" tv series right?

looks cool, not toooo much LOL 80's stuff going on...

I was actually hoping for big, unapologetically cheesy ‘80s indulgence... not “New Order ‘80s” (let alone “New Order Remix ‘80s”). Trailer disappointing!

I want some Fat Boys

Even her hair and makeup look more 1994 than 1984.