To POLLDLY POLL Where No POLL Has POLLed BePOLL: ILX Star Trek results, finally!

It's TOS does "Hunt for the Red October"! Much suspense etc.

you know you have this backwards right

AGT is weird. Picard x3 goes to all this effort to do a thing to save humanity which is in fact the thing that would put an end to humanity so he stops doing the thing and then humanity is ok. Would have all been fine if he'd stayed back at the ranch. Or is that the point?

I don't think anti-time in AGT makes any sense. "q did it" is my best explanation.

It's TOS does "Hunt for the Red October"! Much suspense etc.

you know you have this backwards right

Humanity's inability to perceive time as anything but linear is why Q puts us on trial.

AGT is weird. Picard x3 goes to all this effort to do a thing to save humanity which is in fact the thing that would put an end to humanity so he stops doing the thing and then humanity is ok. Would have all been fine if he'd stayed back at the ranch. Or is that the point?

I think the Continuum had judged that humans were doomed, so in an effort to save his pet species, Q guided Picard into creating a paradox that would lead to the Captain's insight and the salvation of humanity.

4. Far Beyond The Stars (DS9) :: 193 points :: 6 votes :: 2 No. 1 votes
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Almost perfect IMO. (Would've been perfect if they'd actually decided that the entire Trek universe was in Benny's mind.)

Will always love Far Beyond the Stars but Brooks tips over into too much scenery chewing.

far beyond the stars is the best

i like balance of terror a lot (my #2) and posted in the nominations thread that while structurally it's, yes, a submarine movie, its diligent empathy for the romulan captain and the romulan viewpoint is very trek. lenard's performance is great and the ep has as much to do w the wrath of khan as space seed does.

Like the climax of the episode being a brawl. Like 90% of TOS episodes.

― quis gropes ipsos gropiuses? (ledge), Friday, November 4, 2016 11:19 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

brawl > setting the phase dampeners to a quantum frequency that resonates with the object's flux signature (but then i voted for "arena")

3. The City On The Edge Of Forever (TOS) :: 194 points :: 7 votes
Memory Alpha

Hope that tides over the TOS boys.

lol not me :(

love spock's beanie tho

brawl > setting the phase dampeners to a quantum frequency that resonates with the object's flux signature

Touché. Although the latter is arguably more fitting for a sci fi show.

Hope that tides over the TOS boys

nah, this is a mid-tier episode imo

feel like it gets overrated due to ooh famous guest star + famous sci-fi writer

2. Darmok (TNG) :: 208 points :: 7 votes :: 2 No. 1 votes
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra

the non-TOS-boy's TOS episode, apparently xp

now darmok is very good.

1. Mirror, Mirror (TOS) :: 226 points :: 9 votes
Memory Alpha

haha ok all is forgiven

love everything about this episode. mirror spock: scarier than khan. "your agonizer, please", yes, but what about when he tells sulu that if he's killed his family will feel obligated to avenge his death "and some of them... are vulcans". sulu blanches and we are invited to imagine mirror vulcans. (except that these would p much be romulans i guess? still.) and on the other side (in the mirror if u will), evil kirk, demonstrating that kirk without judgement + self-mastery is just a goofy idiot. the part where he's howling from the brig "WHAT IS IT YOU WANT, SPOCK? POWER??" and good-spock deploys a "fascinating" is my favorite single trek moment.

i even think the sexual politics are dece tbh. mirror-kirk's girlfriend is neither dumb nor irrational, and being trapped in the terran empire is a good metaphor for being trapped in a tos episode.

i guess the flaw is that everything hinges on a magic tv screen that kills anyone you can think of, that's pretty dumb altho it's almost like a fairy tale right

anyway great #1-2 imo thanks leee!

yeah the tantalus field thing is v deus ex machina (or TNG lol)

115T. Things Past :: 13 points :: 1 votes
115T. Children Of Time :: 13 points :: 1 votes
115T. Strange Bedfellows :: 13 points :: 1 votes
115T. And The Children Shall Lead :: 13 points :: 1 votes
115T. Relics :: 13 points :: 1 votes
111T. The Emissary :: 14 points :: 1 votes
111T. The Sound Of Her Voice :: 14 points :: 1 votes
111T. I, Mudd :: 14 points :: 1 votes
111T. Dagger Of The Mind :: 14 points :: 1 votes
111T. Tacking Into The Wind :: 14 points :: 1 votes
111T. Clues :: 14 points :: 1 votes
105T. Thine Own Self :: 15 points :: 1 votes
105T. Valiant :: 15 points :: 1 votes
103T. Shore Leave :: 16 points :: 1 votes
103T. The Galileo Seven :: 16 points :: 1 votes
103T. The Magnificent Ferengi :: 16 points :: 1 votes
103T. Crossover :: 16 points :: 1 votes
103T. The Gamesters Of Triskelion :: 16 points :: 1 votes
98T. I, Borg :: 17 points :: 1 votes
98T. Datalore :: 17 points :: 1 votes
98T. The Immunity Syndrome :: 17 points :: 1 votes
95T. The Trouble With Tribbles :: 18 points :: 1 votes
95T. Rapture :: 18 points :: 1 votes
95T. Miri :: 18 points :: 1 votes
95T. The Die Is Cast :: 18 points :: 1 votes
95T. A Matter Of Honour :: 18 points :: 1 votes
95T. Is There In Truth No Beauty :: 18 points :: 1 votes
95T. Phantasms :: 18 points :: 1 votes
88T. The Enterprise Incident :: 19 points :: 1 votes
88T. For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky :: 19 points :: 1 votes
88T. Half A Life :: 19 points :: 1 votes
88T. Latent Image :: 19 points :: 1 votes
88T. Broken Link :: 19 points :: 1 votes
88T. The Wire :: 19 points :: 1 votes
88T. Elementary Dear Data :: 19 points :: 1 votes
81T. A Taste Of Armageddon :: 20 points :: 1 votes
81T. A Private Little War :: 20 points :: 1 votes
81T. Rocks And Shoals :: 20 points :: 1 votes
81T. Next Phase :: 20 points :: 1 votes
77T. Sacrifice Of Angels :: 21 points :: 1 votes
77T. Future Imperfect :: 21 points :: 1 votes
77T. Who Watches The Watchers :: 21 points :: 1 votes
77T. In Purgatory's Shadow :: 21 points :: 1 votes
73T. Take Me Out To The Holosuite :: 22 points :: 1 votes
73T. Conspiracy :: 22 points :: 1 votes
73T. The Survivors :: 22 points :: 1 votes
73T. All Our Yesterdays :: 22 points :: 1 votes
73T. Family :: 22 points :: 1 votes
68T. The Drumhead :: 23 points :: 1 votes
68T. This Side Of Paradise :: 23 points :: 1 votes
67. Arena :: 24 points :: 1 votes
65T. You Are Cordially Invited :: 25 points :: 1 votes
65T. Who Mourns For Adonais :: 25 points :: 1 votes
65T. The Tholian Web :: 25 points :: 1 votes
62T. Encounter At Farpoint :: 26 points :: 1 votes
62T. Rejoined :: 26 points :: 1 votes
62T. Looking For Par'mach In All The Wrong Places :: 26 points :: 1 votes
59T. Little Green Men :: 28 points :: 1 votes
59T. Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges :: 28 points :: 1 votes
57T. The Siege Of Ar-558 :: 30 points :: 1 votes
57T. The Way To Eden :: 30 points :: 1 votes
57T. Civil Defense :: 30 points :: 1 votes
55. Ensigns Of Command :: 30 points :: 2 votes
53T. The Search, Part Ii :: 33 points :: 1 votes
53T. Call To Arms :: 33 points :: 1 votes
52. Sarek :: 33 points :: 2 votes
50T. Journey To Babel :: 34 points :: 2 votes
50T. 11001001 :: 34 points :: 2 votes
49. Timescape :: 36 points :: 2 votes
47T. Blink Of An Eye :: 37 points :: 2 votes
47T. Second Skin :: 37 points :: 2 votes
47T. Past Tense :: 37 points :: 2 votes
47T. The Devil In The Dark :: 37 points :: 2 votes
43T. Errand Of Mercy :: 38 points :: 2 votes
43T. It's Only A Paper Moon :: 38 points :: 2 votes
41T. Living Witness :: 39 points :: 2 votes
41T. Time's Arrow :: 39 points :: 2 votes
39T. Time Squared (TNG) :: 40 points :: 1 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
39T. Plato's Stepchildren (TOS) :: 40 points :: 1 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
37T. Trials And Tribble-ations (DS9) :: 41 points :: 2 votes
37T. Let That Be Your Last Battlefield (TOS) :: 41 points :: 2 votes
36. By Inferno's Light (DS9) :: 45 points :: 2 votes
35. Tapestry (TNG) :: 46 points :: 2 votes
33T. Parallels (TNG) :: 50 points :: 2 votes
33T. The Squire Of Gothos (TOS) :: 50 points :: 2 votes
32. Remember Me (TNG) :: 51 points :: 2 votes
31. The Corbomite Maneuver (TNG) :: 51 points :: 3 votes
30. Deja Q (TNG) :: 52 points :: 2 votes
29. Distant Origin (VOY) :: 52 points :: 3 votes
28. Necessary Evil (DS9) :: 54 points :: 2 votes
27. The Thaw (VOY) :: 54 points :: 3 votes
26. The Naked Time (TOS) :: 62 points :: 3 votes
25. Lower Decks (TNG) :: 65 points :: 2 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
24. Ship In A Bottle (TNG) :: 66 points :: 2 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
23. Year Of Hell (VOY) :: 67 points :: 3 votes
22. The Enemy Within (TOS) :: 70 points :: 2 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
21. Chain Of Command (TNG) :: 78 points :: 4 votes
20. Frame Of Mind (TNG) :: 79 points :: 3 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
19. Hard Time (DS9) :: 80 points :: 4 votes
18. In The Pale Moonlight (DS9) :: 106 points :: 3 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
17. Cause And Effect (TNG) :: 109 points :: 5 votes
16. The Doomsday Machine (TOS) :: 114 points :: 4 votes
15. Duet (DS9) :: 115 points :: 5 votes
14. The Measure Of A Man (TNG) :: 117 points :: 6 votes
13. Space Seed (TOS) :: 133 points :: 6 votes
12. Amok Time (TOS) :: 142 points :: 5 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
11. The Inner Light (TNG) :: 150 points :: 5 votes
10. The Visitor (DS9):: 150 points :: 7 votes
9. Yesterday's Enterprise (TNG) :: 155 points :: 6 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
8. All Good Things (TNG) :: 169 points :: 7 votes
7. Q Who (TNG) :: 175 points :: 6 votes
6. Balance Of Terror (TOS) :: 176 points :: 7 votes
5. The Best Of Both Worlds (TNG) :: 183 points :: 6 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
4. Far Beyond The Stars (DS9) :: 193 points :: 6 votes :: 2 No. 1 votes
3. City On The Edge Of Forever (TOS) :: 194 points :: 7 votes
2. Darmok (TNG) :: 208 points :: 7 votes :: 2 No. 1 votes
1. Mirror, Mirror (TOS) :: 226 points :: 9 votes

stuff from earlier i missed posting about:

devil in the dark - glad this made it as i cut it from my ballot because iirc it takes place entirely in drab underground corridors, features no crew outside the core dialectic, and takes kind of a long time. but spock's mind-meld scene ("PAIN!!!") is essential.

errand of mercy - i like this one. like a day the earth stood still for 60s policy.

let that be your last battlefield - sort of annoyed this made it instead of any preachy third-tier TOS episodes i actually voted for.

the corbomite maneuver - good, indeed fundamental, kirk ep, but as almost nothing happens in it it's good the alien face is so striking and that they throw in the clint howard acid trip at the end.

lower decks - had a rly good time w the one time i saw this. patrick stewart's baldness in it is like a pun.

frame of mind - i like the being-in-a-play angle in this one.

seeing the full list there makes me wish i'd given just a few points to "sarek", my favorite Stewart Emotes! episode

a few more points, i mean; i had it at #15

so glad that voyager's scorpion got no votes. i remember that being a well-received one, but it both ruins the borg and includes a racist fable.

wait why did i think balance of terror already happened?!?!?!

WAIT ITS OVER? WHY AM I SO BAD AT ILX TONIGHT?

FUCK

did startrekman vote in this

You know, that's a pretty decent top 10. Mostly I'm happy that The Visitor beat out The Inner Light (which never resonated for me, either).

Q Who at #7 is just whaaaaaaaaaaat tho.

Q Who is great because it has that scene where the Borg is fucking with the Enterprise computer and Picard's all like "He has to be stopped! Mr. Worf!" And then Worf just goes "Ensign!" and totally passes it off to some ensign, who gets pummeled by the Borg dude. And that, kids, is how management works.

Can't help but wonder in Mirror Mirror how a universe where humans are so radically different could have developed so that at the exact moment they visit, Kirk & Spock et al find their exact counterparts in the same roles in the same organisation. Which only adds to its bonkers charm.

I enjoy thinking about that. What if every choice was the opposite but the results kept coming out the same?

Rewatching Yesterday's Enterprise for this poll, it occurred to me that it was mirror universe idea done seriously. It's lacking some of the charm.

Q Who is maybe unremarkable in retrospect but felt pretty next-level at the time.

Also it has my favourite TNG episode formula - start banal, end terrifying

My list.

http://a68.tinypic.com/4snuw6.jpg

saw the corbomite maneuver the other night and . . . it was pretty bad

apparently it was supposed to be the first non-pilot episode (although it ran later) so there's awkward character 'development', particularly of mccoy. the alien encounter had a countdown to doom that lasted forever, the payoff was absurd, the resolution lame (although it did rid us of an annoying ensign)

kirk was good tho

Did morbz vote before he was banned

― Οὖτις, Friday, October 21, 2016 12:30 AM

i have no idea why you wanted to know how an antisemite like me ranked the original Jews in Space

also i haven't watched any of this stuff in 25 years