2016 MLB awards thread

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maybe they thought he was going to get enough votes with others and wanted to throw some love to their pet-favs?

either way, Kate Upton losing her shit on twitter has been a sight to behold.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 17 November 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

Kluber seemed to be the favorite down the stretch.

earlnash, Thursday, 17 November 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

disappointed that kate upton didn't start ranting about xFIP and curveball RPM etc

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 November 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

great that ppl have never given less of a shit about these than now

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 November 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

No vote-splitting--Trout cleaned up.

clemenza, Friday, 18 November 2016 00:08 (seven years ago) link

woo-hoo!

k3vin k., Friday, 18 November 2016 00:28 (seven years ago) link

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iUahRdeHJTdPyI3qPU_k4_53i0zgYlVENVV_He7_a14/pubhtml#

one guy put cabrera in front of trout, for old time's sake

k3vin k., Friday, 18 November 2016 00:32 (seven years ago) link

good job john hickey

mookieproof, Friday, 18 November 2016 00:35 (seven years ago) link

i'm startled

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

Was a little surprised there weren't any Red Sox after Betts and Ortiz to show up down-ballot--Pedroia, at least.

clemenza, Friday, 18 November 2016 04:21 (seven years ago) link

Top four AL MVP matched the top four bWAR finishers, and the vote spread also looks similar to the bWAR spread.

clemenza, Friday, 18 November 2016 13:09 (seven years ago) link

Ortiz with a 1st place vote :|

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 18 November 2016 14:34 (seven years ago) link

@DetroitTigersPR
Per @EliasSports, Cabrera is the 4th player to receive a MVP vote in 14 straight seasons, joining Hank Aaron, Yogi Berra and Barry Bonds.

mookieproof, Friday, 18 November 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link

that's odd, because he's only played 14 seasons. so he received a MVP vote for his 2003 rookie season (87 games played, .268/.325/.468, 106 wRC+)?

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

he's amazing, though. if his defense wasn't awful he would have had a better chance of catching up with Pujols, at least by fWAR. even now, he might have a chance. he trails him by 23 right now (68 to 91), but it's not hard to imagine a scenario where pujols five more years (!!!!?!?!?) of -1.0 to 1.0 level seasons while cabrera cranks out another handful of 3-4 WAR seasons.

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2016 19:04 (seven years ago) link

taking sides: Ryan Howard in 2015-16 or your idea of how Pujols will be doing in 2020-21

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 November 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

he got one 8th place vote for some reason

qualx, Friday, 18 November 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link

If Trout were to win the MVP unanimously next year, he'd be tied with Schmidt for 11th on the all-time MVP-share list; a unanimous Cy Young for Kershaw would move him to third on the Cy list.

clemenza, Saturday, 19 November 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link

BP podcast pointed out that this pool of 30 writers on this award was relatively analytics- and Trout-friendly

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 November 2016 15:05 (seven years ago) link

Conceding James has a heavy bias here, I think this is an excellent breakdown of why Verlander's big bWAR advantage over Porcello is illusory.

http://www.billjamesonline.com/porlander_and_vercello/

clemenza, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link

sean forman's response (to pos, not james): https://twitter.com/sean_forman/status/800775742724325376

mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link

So James is saying Verlander would have given up just as many hits on balls in play even with a great defense behind him? If that's true, what does it mean to say that the Tigers were 50 runs worse than average on defense? It means they should have given up more hits than the average defense, which translates into more runs, unless they so happened to be not as bad when Verlander pitched. I think this is Forman's point ...?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

more on various WARs: http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18114272/miller-going-war-mystery-robbie-ray

mookieproof, Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

that's a fantastic article

k3vin k., Friday, 25 November 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link

yes

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:52 (seven years ago) link

Rick Porcello, Anthony Rendon Win 2016 MLB Comeback Player of the Year Awards

mookieproof, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link


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