william basinski - is this the best ambient/drone stuff around or what?

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i have 92982, its v good

Dr. Phil, Saturday, 25 April 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

What's the new one, Krakow?

I haven't listened to Basinski in a while, but I really like what I have of him. I've only one Disintegration Loop (no. III) cos it would have been very pricey to buy them all at the time. Does anyone know where to get the others reasonably cheaply? are they still available? some sort of box would be perfect.
I also really like Movement in Chrome Primitive and The River. I have a vinyl-only release, A Red Score in Tile which is similar in style to the Chrome Primitive stuff. Then I have Melancholia, and a split with Richard Chartier, to which have In't really given enough time.

There were a few other Musex releases, such as Water Music I and II -- has anyone heard them?

Duke, Saturday, 25 April 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

erm... should read thread properly. So the new one is 92982. He says a shorter version of track 3 was included as variation #8 on A movement in chrome primitive, so I can imagine I'll like this one

Duke, Saturday, 25 April 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

oh God please keep this thread going; I completely adore The Disintegration Loops (to the point of buying everything of Basinski's still available - my favorite so far is the River, although the new one is pretty good too) and I'm such a sucker for anything even evoking a comparison.

anyway in the meantime, I've been enjoying this:

http://deletedscenesforgottendreams.blogspot.com/2009/03/st-kilda-st-kilda-ep.html

as a sort of Cliff's Notes to the Disintegration Loops. v v v v v v pretty. I was happy to buy it.

jamescobo, Sunday, 26 April 2009 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link

It started with the Disintegration Loops set for me as well, and have also bought everything still available. My possible favorite is El Camino Real, but he really hasn't made a mediocre record. 'The Garden of Brokenness´ is gorgeous as well. Hard to single one out, his whole output has been fantastic.
The new one sounds great, but I´ve yet to take the time to fully dive into it. I won´t be dissapointed though, I know that for a fact.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 26 April 2009 11:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't listened to Basinski in a while, but I really like what I have of him. I've only one Disintegration Loop (no. III) cos it would have been very pricey to buy them all at the time. Does anyone know where to get the others reasonably cheaply?

eMusic.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 26 April 2009 11:23 (fourteen years ago) link

How about in a physical (CD) format for less than $20 each?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 26 April 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks to this thread, I had to pull out "Disintegration Loops" and have been, um, looping dlp5 for half of the afternoon. So much for my day. Thanks you guys (=it was a beautiful day).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 26 April 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

@ilxor try this guy on eBay http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/TWO-HEADEDDOG__W0QQ_sidZ273089502?_nkw=basinski&submit=Search

I've bought from him several times and he's totally spot on ("an excellent seller A++++++" etc.). Usually has a few Basinksi titles in stock for the best prices I can find and could probably get others if asked.

krakow, Monday, 27 April 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Another new one out now from Basinski. Not heard it yet, will wait for it to filter through to the usual channels, but here's the link and Basinski's write-up:

http://www.mmlxii.com/music/music.html

Vivian & Ondine
Catalog#: 2062.0902

Price: $20.00
CD 45:10. Release date: December 2009

"...I got back to work and found yet another lunchbox of ancient tape-loops to go through for possible inclusion in the new piece. I came across the main theme and thought...well, this is gorgeous; let's see if we can use this to coax Viv to come out. I went through the rest of them and found another dozen or so that mixed well used randomly, just under the threshold.

"The next night I performed the piece at Issue with their 16 channel hemispherical speaker system set to move the sounds randomly around the room as if waves in a pool. We all had a really good time. It was mesmerizing."

This version was recorded with microphones and two Norelco tape decks live in my studio in Los Angeles in one take in September 2008.

krakow, Friday, 4 December 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

^sounds like a lot of his other work but that's not a bad thing. another dreamy single track, this one 45 minutes

ra (ramon cora), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:11 (fourteen years ago) link

just got the first one and it's woooow

dyao, Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm excited to hear this!! I only have the four Disintegration Loops and I love all of them. I used to work at this all night cafe and around 4 the place would clear out and I would play these as I would mop and clean up. I miss jobs where I could play music late at night.

Jacob Sanders, Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

available on emusic, btw

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

holy shit that sounds like the best thing ever xp

dyao, Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link

distingeration loops 1 is shifted heavily towards the right channel in the mix, right? really hard to listen to on headphones.

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Sunday, 7 February 2010 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think so, no

♖♕♖ (am0n), Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

hmm it definitely seems right-shifted to me, even in the iTunes samples. (NB I would buy it from eMusic but they won't let me join because I'm currently living out-of-the-states)

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i bought mine on Amazon Mp3 and it certainly sounds "right-shifted" to me

kshighway (ksh), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I guess fixing it in post would be against the spirit of the enterprise. really wish I could just put it on on headphones and zone out though...

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Monday, 8 February 2010 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link

dyao technology

nsuomy (ramon cora), Monday, 8 February 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

(mine's not right-shifted btw)

nsuomy (ramon cora), Monday, 8 February 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

hee waaannnt it

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Monday, 8 February 2010 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Achieved something akin to Distintegrating Loops here, using two reel to reel machines feeding back on one another. Rather than the tape itself degrading though it's the signal being obliterated by the analogue recording process. Something like this is what makes tape so exciting to work with, it seems like a natural process.

http://automating.bandcamp.com/track/soundoffsound

Department of Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification (S-), Monday, 8 February 2010 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Available for download for one week:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/09/07/140265002/remembering-september-11-a-live-concert-webcast-from-the-temple-of-dendur

Wasn't sure about the added drums to start with, but it's growing on me.

toby, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

yeah saw that linked on p'fork. will listen tonight when writing. drums?!

willem, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 10:36 (twelve years ago) link

download??

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

Just to the right of "hear this concert".

toby, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

Wow Toby, thanks so much for sharing! Going to make a listening event of this tonight!

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link

Good stuff. I'm very interested in hearing this. Will zone out to it tonight.

AnotherDeadHero, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

thx toby i looked and looked and couldn't find the link.

Stories from Hull City, Stories from Hull FC (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

wonderful stuff, thanks

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

heard this a few times today and it's really pretty great.

toby, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

i was at the temple of dendur for this on sunday. writing a review now, it'll be up at frieze.com in a day or two

geeta, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

yay frieze.com!

Pizzataco Five (admrl), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

Woah listening now, turns out my current employer sponsored this event! I knew there was a connection with Basinski and Sep 11th but didn't make the connection. You can hear them thanked at 5:23

Pizzataco Five (admrl), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

there were a lot of people I recognized in the audience - Antony of Antony and the Johnsons, Tony Conrad, etc. Antony is like a big teddy bear in person.

geeta, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

Antony and William Basinski are long time friends. Very cool that TOny Conrad was there!

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

yeah. when Conrad showed up, they asked him for his ticket, but he didn't have one (even though it was free, it was a ticketed event), so the Met guards wouldn't let him in. i gave him my +1 and got him into the show. i recognized him right away because i'd just seen him play the night before, at the Kitchen!

geeta, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

Aw, nice.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

that's awesome, geeta.

Battlestar Gracián (crüt), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

the perfect music event??

Battlestar Gracián (crüt), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

dude has an awesome apartment

you got me again, beets!!! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

i wrangled the +1 by telling the press desk that Tony Conrad was my 'photographer'!

he would've been a great photographer for the article, we could've done something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJbqnztjkbs

geeta, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

recognized him right away because i'd just seen him play the night before, at the Kitchen!

I didn't go to basinski, but just as an aside, conrad's set at the kitchen was really fun! didn't have much info beforehand and was very happy to see that he was playing with eli keszler. love that guy!

original bgm, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

Ryan McAdams, the guy who conducted this, was in the same rowboat as me at last year's performance of Xenakis' Persephassa on the lake in Central Park. We talked about music a bunch. Cool guy.

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

A review in the NYT

Listening to this now. Very moving.

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

"dlp 1.1" has a stately, martial mood that the drums work well with, i think. the whole concert is lovely tho.

Chapman Pincher Overdrive (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

I made it to 1:38 before the description of the venue had me welling up. The Disintegration loops rivals on Sinking of the titanic to have me in a heap on the floor. Potentially leave this till im out of the office

straightola, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link


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