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almost makes me proud to be english

ogmor, Friday, 18 November 2016 12:43 (seven years ago) link

xp
His sense of pain was working overtime!

nickn, Friday, 18 November 2016 23:32 (seven years ago) link

This is going to happen every single year now eh

ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link

is there such a thing as a “winter wonderland” that is actually really good and heartily enjoyed by every one of its patrons, or are they uniformly forlorn rip-offs? if it's the latter then you'd think people would have twigged by now.

soref, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

the south bank's german-style xmas market is a rip-off but a fairly lovely one. iirc leeds of all places had a decent one too

but anything that isn't german-style is fairly doomed, yeah

imago, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link

it would be sad if someone went to one of these wonderlands hoping to see some realness/children crying in a muddy field etc, but when they got there it was really charming and magical

soref, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link

lol

imago, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

And visitors to a Christmas lights show and winter wonderland-themed event at Woburn Abbey in Bedfordshire last year demanded their money back when they encountered melting ice sculptures, an effigy burned in a wheelchair and 90-minute queues.

Say what now?

nickn, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link

first tube ride ever, train taken out of service = real England

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link

LOOOOOOL, have fun here, Morbs!

jane burkini (suzy), Thursday, 24 November 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

aww it's like they made a special effort for your first trip :)

wanderly braggin' (seandalai), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link

Don't know how long you're here for but you might be around for the first will-they-won't-they tube strike of the festive season.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 November 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/XfMg4QN.png

wanderly braggin' (seandalai), Thursday, 24 November 2016 23:33 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/hKJ4UVv.png

soref, Friday, 25 November 2016 02:12 (seven years ago) link

people who you kinda sorta hope get their heads kicked in

brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 November 2016 07:05 (seven years ago) link

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/gritty-mcgritface-definitely-not-kp86z6dcd I can think of another name for this.

Neil S, Friday, 25 November 2016 11:23 (seven years ago) link

adolf gritler ftw

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Friday, 25 November 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link

Auschgritz, Gritoris, Gary Gritter all not doing too well I believe

boxedjoy, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link

kinda feeling her tbh... even among gilded environs kensington inner sanctum is an afterlife unto itself, not quite heaven perhaps but the appropriately opiated side of purgatory. have a heart your honour

that being said north kensington's dominion stretches ever further according to local estate agents (chestertons haunted by g.k i'm guessing) so maybe plonk her on mozart estate

r|t|c, Saturday, 3 December 2016 10:56 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpt5aStiOJY

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 14:08 (seven years ago) link

cheeky micro-rave

ogmor, Wednesday, 7 December 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

"This...is a micro-kick-in-the-balls"

woke cop, boo! (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link

but it wouldn't be micro, really

woke cop, boo! (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

boy i really wish i hadn't clicked on that link while eating lunch

Rush Limbaugh and Lou Reed doing sex with your parents (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 December 2016 13:44 (seven years ago) link

the THIS-TO-THIS tableaux is not very easy to decode -- is it abt giving up alcohol?

mark s, Monday, 12 December 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link

The past isn't real

Houston John (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 12 December 2016 14:05 (seven years ago) link

DRINK IS BEST

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 09:58 (seven years ago) link

Is it trying for a Hogarth type Gin Lane/Beer Street tableau?

Houston John (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:04 (seven years ago) link

While I hold to the view that nothing older than c.20 years can be Real England, according to my own arbitrary bullshit definition of same, they are great photos.

Houston John (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link

the THIS-TO-THIS tableaux is not very easy to decode -- is it abt giving up alcohol?

― mark s, Monday, December 12, 2016 2:03 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Actually, I think it is less about giving up alcohol per se, than giving up being working class: alcohol being hugely important in the constitution of working class identity, for the Weston Young Conservatives.

Houston John (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:19 (seven years ago) link

it shows the evolution of british music from chas & dave to mumford & sons

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link

xpost I think that's right, unfortunately the tableau makes it clear that the booze-soaked before is a whole lot more fun than the straw-boatered after: in the "to this!" side they all look bored out of their wits.

Is there a date for this? I'm assuming 65/66 kind of season from the fashions (esp general lack of hairiness) but maybe Weston Young Conservatives weren't necessarily right up to date with the beardyward swing of sixties style?

Tim, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link

ok but there are other, less parseable signifiers here: the drink-is-not-best house also features NO MEN (and NO SKELETONS)

mark s, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:28 (seven years ago) link

hmm. it could be channelling old religious temperance to drink i.e. no drink also equals virtue (no men, women=virtue) also equals eternal life/no death.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:37 (seven years ago) link

tho that requires some serious garbling to end up with that float. v difficult to say.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:39 (seven years ago) link

I've half a feeling the cub scout is supposed to be on the TO THIS side as an exemplar of all things nice and middle class but he's hanging out on the fun side because why wouldn't you? Hard to explain the complete absence of boys in the TO THIS side.

Tim, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:52 (seven years ago) link

idea of baden-powell cub scout *depraved* by drink is making me laugh.

what's clear: it's more fun even just to play at being a member of the degraded classes, even for WSM Tories, than it is sit in you front room wearing cricket jumper and a straw boater.

DRINK IS BEST.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:58 (seven years ago) link

They've got a piano there and everything.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 10:59 (seven years ago) link

that's a just william-esque schoolboy rather than a cub surely?

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:02 (seven years ago) link

there was still the odd Temperance bar in the UK at this point - the classic 19th century BOOZE = POVERTY arguments were probably still getting made

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:03 (seven years ago) link

I mean those arguments have a sediment of truth to them but died out in popular culture at some point in the 60s/70s I guess, thank god nowadays we have Budweiser and Helen Mirren to warn us of the dangers of Pillockry.

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link

looking closer, i think there's actually another scout hiding behind the highest-sat girl (dark hair, pale skirt) in the ETERNAL LIFE/NO DEATH/NO LAMPSHADES house

(both the cub scouts are hunkering down somewhat; the just-william-esque schoolboy is not one of the two scouts)

ps i think this could well be early 70s, tho 60s seems more likely

mark s, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:07 (seven years ago) link

obviously male hair as a whole got longer in the 70s, but schoolboys were still often under stricter manners, esp.the male children of WSM tory respectablity?

mark s, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link

Despite this the Movement experienced a steady decline throughout the century, with members eventually having to sell its assets in an attempt to keep it afloat. For example, in 1981 the New North Road Temperance Hall was put up for sale. However, in an interview with Norman Riley (President of the Huddersfield and District Temperance Union) in 1981, he stated how he knew that the movements membership “had dwindled to a handful”, and it was impossible to compete with brewers with millions to spend on advertising.He added that “drinking alcohol is now socially acceptable and nobody cares, the Temperance Movement began when conditions were appalling because of drink. Perhaps it will have to get like that again”.

from an article on Huddersfield Uni's website. it hung on a little longer than I thought. can easily imagine Oxbridge colleges of the 60s still having Temperance Societies.

Our Sweet Fredrest (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:13 (seven years ago) link


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