rate the chances that you will experience a cataclysmic, world-threatening event before you're 70

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gotta zoom out pretty far on the ol moral arc these days

difficult listening hour, Friday, 25 November 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

longer life spans, generally less world-wide poverty, that kind of stuff. Don't get me wrong, humanity obviously still needs a lot of work to get into any kind of decent shape, and the destruction of the world's ecosystems seems to still be going pretty strong, but you know, not everything is terrible. Things have certainly been way worse.

xp

silverfish, Friday, 25 November 2016 20:43 (seven years ago) link

Things have been way worse before, if you only consider the the general condition of humans everywhere, but never before have the natural systems within which we are embedded been so weakened and unstable as now.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 25 November 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

I think that's true, but the "cataclysmic, world-threatening events" that those will cause seem likely to be more than 30 something years away. I won't pretend to be any kind of expert, but human has proven to able to adapt to many extreme situations. People will die, but we will figure it out a way out of this eventually. It's what we do. The only thing that will stop us is the heat death of the universe.

silverfish, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

(maybe)

silverfish, Friday, 25 November 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

gotta zoom out pretty far on the ol moral arc these days

― difficult listening hour

tough to do because there are all these potential endpoints, and most of them is because humans as a species don't have very good judgment, but i'm really not convinced humanity will recognizably exist in 100 years.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Friday, 25 November 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

climate change isn't a discrete cataclysmic event but could eventually cause one. went with 30%

ciderpress, Friday, 25 November 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link

one day i'm going to die and everybody i love is going to die and we will never see each other again and there will be nothing for eternity and that's probly cataclysmic enough

― brex yourself before you wrex yourself (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 November 2016 21:31 (two days ago)

Genuine truth-bomb.

The boy who cried 'wolf' in a crowded theatre (Mr Andy M), Friday, 25 November 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link

Uh tbh most adults get that, surely

albvivertine, Friday, 25 November 2016 23:51 (seven years ago) link

Be funny if we're all dead before this poll closes

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:01 (seven years ago) link

looked up nuclear blast radii and their effects on midsized american cities today. disappointed that a hiroshima-sized bomb would merely leave me with 2nd/3rd degree burns and crawling over debris rather than immediately incinerating me. as i'd much prefer the latter i'm pleased to read that most hydrogen bombs would probably turn me to ash in about 2 seconds.

doing fine though! honestly. we all die someday. as mentioned. and the self/ego is an illusion, etc

you all should order a pizza tonight- that's a thing you can do, it's pretty awesome

also a lot of life is actually very mundane- i have been freaking out a ton lately about this and evil things do happen but at the same time, sometimes life is just... boring. and that's a good thing

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link

Cataclysmic = affecting our ability to post to ILX.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link

lol

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

The Ilx server needs moving a bit further away from the Yellowstone caldera blast zone, otherwise the Trump thread might get destroyed:p

calzino, Saturday, 26 November 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link

isn't seattle gonna be destroyed by an earthquake in like 10 years

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 26 November 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link

Where do we keep the tape backups?

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:02 (seven years ago) link

Ppl lived thru WW2

hmm

schlump, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:21 (seven years ago) link

everybody making a pt abt relative geography shaping this otm i think ?, like w/o having to taxonomise what cataclysm means things are probably pretty apocalyptic nothing-will-be-the-same-again feeling anywhere where resources are scarce or where bombs are going off, ie to those poll voters. i feel like nuclear war just became 5000x more likely & the thing where some kind of implicit ice barrier erodes & the world is just immediately & cascadingly a different planet seems p feasible. maybe change this poll to before 2017 ???

schlump, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:28 (seven years ago) link

Has there ever been a generation of humans that didn't ruminate about whether they might be the second-to-last?

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:35 (seven years ago) link

(and that there was probably nothing they could do about it? woe is us, cursed to roam this etc.)

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:43 (seven years ago) link

the people on this board will almost certainly be fine imo

k3vin k., Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:44 (seven years ago) link

i don't think it'll be so bad for humans who are born after the cataclysm bc this will be the only life they know. it'll be hardest for those of us who remember what it was like now and how great it was.

Mordy, Saturday, 26 November 2016 04:44 (seven years ago) link

Like the younger people in this rather good film http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/dvdboxart/75293/p75293_d_v8_aa.jpg

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Saturday, 26 November 2016 05:08 (seven years ago) link

this is how i feel abt the switch from cd -> mp3s xp

schlump, Saturday, 26 November 2016 05:10 (seven years ago) link

i feel lucky to have experienced how good things can be and have been, but it will be especially frustrating to live with this (likely) suffering and misery, just knowing that it didn't *have* to be this way. hopefully can drive and motivate me politically?? (?)

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 26 November 2016 05:36 (seven years ago) link

things will be fine.

k3vin k., Saturday, 26 November 2016 05:41 (seven years ago) link

Has there ever been a generation of humans that didn't ruminate about whether they might be the second-to-last?

Respectfully, this is such a trite dad argument. It's exactly the kind of banal hindsight fallacy that would be taken as received wisdom on places like Reddit. Like others said, other generations weren't facing climate change with denialist resolve. I don't think global climate change will likely reach cataclysmic proportions in the next 30 years, but in the next 80 I'd say odds are approaching fair to middlin'.

viborg, Saturday, 26 November 2016 06:05 (seven years ago) link

I don't know, how many people have to starve before it reaches a cataclysm?

viborg, Saturday, 26 November 2016 06:07 (seven years ago) link

Wow, good job reading a bunch of nonexistent sentiment into my question!

Speaking for myself, I'm defining a "cataclysm" for the purposes of this thread as 2-3% global population loss.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 November 2016 06:10 (seven years ago) link

So, roughly 200 million deaths at current global population of roughly 7 billion. Sounds cataclysmic enough to me to qualify.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 26 November 2016 06:22 (seven years ago) link

http://www.livescience.com/14251-200-million-rapture-12.html

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 November 2016 06:28 (seven years ago) link

Be funny if we're all dead before this poll closes

― Never changed username before (cardamon)

if a punchline lands and nobody is there to hear it, is it still funny?

watched "pale cocoon" last night. touched on a lot of thoughts i've been having lately, particularly wrt this thread.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Saturday, 26 November 2016 12:39 (seven years ago) link

np: frank zappa, _does humor belong in a post-apocalyptic hellscape?_

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Saturday, 26 November 2016 12:41 (seven years ago) link

just the other day i was wondering which science fiction dystopia seems most plausible from the perspective of 2016 and--if you allow for some imaginative license--it almost seems like it might be The Time Machine.

ryan, Saturday, 26 November 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link

(not just the extreme inequality or biopolitical schisms, or even the idea that there will be habitable and uninhabitable zones but because it portrays human civilization as just...dwindling away into time and a decaying universe.)

ryan, Saturday, 26 November 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link

& Orlando Jones rocking a Caesar cut, boggling at our sad descendants who don't take advantage of the vast institutional knowledge that he contains!

http://i.imgur.com/R3T8bih.jpg

El Tomboto, Saturday, 26 November 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link

Global Challenge Foundation roughly answers the poll question for ILX:

Across 100 years, that figure would entail a 9.5 percent chance of human extinction.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 19 January 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link

i don't think it'll be so bad for humans who are born after the cataclysm bc this will be the only life they know. it'll be hardest for those of us who remember what it was like now and how great it was.

― Mordy, Friday, November 25, 2016 9:44 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we are legend

sleepingbag, Thursday, 19 January 2017 00:07 (seven years ago) link

still feeling good about this

trilby mouth (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2017 00:09 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 20 January 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link

clutch mutch?

trilby mouth (darraghmac), Friday, 20 January 2017 00:03 (seven years ago) link

16 people leading the revolution

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 20 January 2017 00:04 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/1eWtMFd.jpg

Karl Malone, Friday, 20 January 2017 01:39 (seven years ago) link

I'm about to turn 42, and I feel like I am living through one right now.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 January 2017 01:42 (seven years ago) link

You are confusing the scaldingly high potential for a cataclysmic event with the actual event, which is scheduled for later this year.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 20 January 2017 04:07 (seven years ago) link

51 and I feel as if everything has gone mad.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 20 January 2017 08:59 (seven years ago) link

You're getting worked up over nothing. Everything is going to be fine. So just relax, okay? You're really overreacting.

http://www.theonion.com/multiblogpost/this-war-will-destabilize-the-entire-mideast-regio-11534

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Friday, 20 January 2017 09:30 (seven years ago) link

silicon valley hedge fund types certainly think they will

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 15:39 (seven years ago) link


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