Social Activism in the Age of Trump: What To Do and What We Are Doing

every single one of those legitimate grievances would have been avoided if people weren't inconsiderate dicks. if you cut through the jargon it is really just a matter of narcissists excluding others. the way around this is surely to culturally stigmatise all narcissism? (increased visibility of disabled ppl would probably help too) [/ljsplaining]

I agree with louis. Framing all of this in terms of systemic oppression makes ordinary kindness suddenly tendentious and it's a dumb move

I have a hunch we will be witnessing a great many dumb moves in the activist department over the next couple of years

also, point 5 is sitting really badly with me :/

I'm assuming this is the thread that prompted the attempted online lynching of Fred B?

imago please explain why you have a problem with point 5? No sarcasm I want to know.

well obviously if people (esp non-hegemonic people) were being called out as 'oppressors' for innocently misusing terms then that's obviously horrific and dickish, but surely saying that academic language is the preserve of the privileged is in itself a form of othering? idk it just strikes me that so long as terms are explained, unpacked and respected then nobody's going to be left behind. this isn't the culture war that ought to be fought imo

Also lacking facility with this sort of obfuscating jargon is hardly a "disability."

yeah apologies to the author but it's hard to look at a sentence like Yet still it took me several years of intensive study to feel I had begun to master the nuances of concepts like cisheteropatriarchy. and not, like, roll your eyes a bit (not least because the concepts behind that word would take about three minutes to explain to an ordinary child)

guys the whole article is bad

I'm assuming this is the thread that prompted the attempted online lynching of Fred B?

― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), 6. december 2016 02:25 (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think that was mostly caused by something being severely wrong with darragh.

That's a pretty ableist thing to say

HA!

I don't think that's funny.

Guy created a whole thread dedicated to calling me a c**t and saying I should be banned, with no reason given at all. There's something severely wrong with that, even if it's just that he's evil and hateful, and I'm not going to laugh about being treated like that. It's not ok, it's not funny.

I wasn't laughing at you Frederik, I know nothing of this ongoing beef, I just thought the article I posted was a little overbearing and enjoyed the usage of ableist.

xp

LOL maybe if you stopped being such a hostile dick to people at the drop of a hat, but at this rate I hope you hit 51 soon

seriously, go fuck yourself, stop posting, K3vin K OTM

you deserve to be mocked

(removes bookmark from thread)

It's not a 'beef' it's bullying.

Calling people c**t and f****t is not 'mocking'. Do you think I deserve that sleeve?

Ok darragh never said the latter.

I am not going to tell you not to be mad at deems but I don't think you really get where he is coming from. He was certainly mean to you but he's not a bigot

No, and I didn't say that. But I've been called that, and sleeve said I deserved what I'm getting. Do you think what darragh did was ok, treesh?

keep this act up and eventually everybody is going to agree with him

you're officially into the "paranoia is a self-fulfilling prophecy" part of the game

Do you agree with him, El T? Do you think it's okay that he called me a c**t?

Seriously, do anyone here have the guts to either a) say that what darragh did was unacceptable or b) that what he did was acceptable. There's no middle ground. Either it's ok to create a new thread to call me a c**t, or it isn't. I am PISSED that it happened, and that it's apparently probably something I just have to deal with going forward because a poster don't like what I writes, and this cowardice in saying if people are ok with it or not is pissing me off as well.

Seems acceptable to me, you're really annoying.

Like, you're both really strident in your opinions and unusually sensitive to criticism, not exactly a shocker that some people don't like you, and "ban x" threads are a time-honored tradition.

a horrible horrible tradition that has ruined lives

Lol

One thing to keep in mind is that in degenerate countries like England and Ireland the word c**t is used pretty loosely and is not necessarily considered offensive.

Like if an American used that word it would be a shocking slur but in the ban thread deems was basically just calling you an asshole

you're a top cunt, treesh

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p sure deems was using it in the spirit in which it was originally intended imo just sayin

I've FP'd everyone who has posted to this thread, because in all the ways that matter, this is all of our faults.

It's a shame about Old Lunch and in orbit, I know they both were in the 40+ club

Lol. I look forward to be able to use all the slurs that doesn't mean anything bad in Denmark, Treesh.

it's weird that I have a memory that's got to be almost a decade old at this point, of SB carpet bombing, back when it was an SB and not an FP

Fp you because our resistance movement cannot afford to look backward

It's not a 'beef' it's bullying.

― Frederik B, Monday, December 5, 2016 9:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

u said "you seem dumb as fuck" to me and invited me to fuck myself. idk, do u think that was bullying?

tru healing starts from looking within

anyway guyz, good activism on this thread all around. kudos everyone!

snaps

classic leftist circular firing squad status achieved in only 2 days. SAD!

s.clover, that was an angry response to posts you sent at me. That was beef. You would know the difference between that and what darragh did, if you weren't dumb as fuck.

fred all defences lowered now

ilx has been around a lot longer than your chest hair. theres a legacy of ban x. theres a legacy of intellegent but snappy posting. theres a legacy of learning the place. theres a legacy of getting a bit of bounce in your online personality.

theres a strong legacy of balancing aggression, zinging, bullying, patronism, all that negative shit under whatever guise or slipped into the usual discourse, with humour or charm or interestingness or content or a million other ways to sugar the medicine, and you avoid all of the latter as far as i or a lot of us can see.

i dont hate you you silly fool but you need to look at your exchanges itt to realise that this is not how it works

ban x threads have been 90% tongue in cheek protest threads since ilx began. they were never going to ban you you daft sod.

fp is rare and you need only worry about it if you are one of the posters that simply has too much ego to adopt the fairly easy ilx norms and then marries it with enough rank unpleasantness to actively piss people off. nb i will be very disappointed in ilx if you are not fpd but hy all means carry on.

cunt is a rich and varied term. we have threads on it. lots of cunts on this board are some of my favourite cunts. some cunts on this board are total cunts. youre a wee cunt but youre not a total cunt. hope that helps.

race u to 51 ya cuntcha x

darragh, you're not funny, you're not charming and you're not interesting. There's no sugar to your aggressive bullying, and how the fuck couldn't you have figured out by now I intensely dislike it? It could have been funny but after Morbs got banned, it took on a different tone. Stay the fuck away from me, and stop pretending you own this place.

pwns it sometimes

own 1/51 of it, cunt

Goddamnit Fred. This constant whining about "being bullied" and pissing yr lamentations on nearly every single thread you stumble in is getting v v tiresome. FP deems and get over it already. That's how it's done.