i predicted it
― flopson, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link
there was a report a few weeks ago (last week maybe?) that Obama was seriously considering it, so I saw it coming. I don't think Assange was bluffing.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link
gonna be fun to see "progressives" line up to complain about this
https://twitter.com/owillis/status/821468232276148225
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link
who the fuck is oliver willis
― akm, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link
what a weird position to have
― akm, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link
I don't know either but he's Verified™
― slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link
I have no idea who Oliver Willis is and don't really care that he thinks Manning is a traitor since I think his opinion is as meaningless as my opinion that this is a good thing for the Obama administration to have done. What I do care about is that a black dude said The Wrong Thing on Twitter and apparently has a bunch of white people making fun of his appearance for it. So basically, as far as I can tell everyone needs to check themselves and shut the fuck up.
― (The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:07 (seven years ago) link
oliver willis is a nincompoop
very pleasantly surprised by obama's commutation of her sentence. what he put manning through was cruel and unjust and this implicitly acknowledges that
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link
that kind of pile-on reminds me why i never tweet and it's part of why the internet has ruined everything.
― nomar, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link
just don't express regret that a whistleblower isn't going to be kept in solitary confinement until she successfully attempts suicide on twitter is my trick to avoided internet pile-ons
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:15 (seven years ago) link
I also don't know who oliver willis is but he does have 58k followers who are presumably pretty left-wing, so it's not like it's just 'pile on random black dude'
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link
Oliver Willis being a nincompoop doesn't justify thinly-veiled racism thrown at him by randos on Twitter.
― (The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:17 (seven years ago) link
he's obviously wrong but it's just the typical internet OTT response which is pretty eyerolling at best.
― nomar, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link
and at worst, yes what DJP said
This pile-on was instigated by Glenn Greenwald, btw.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link
Him and the others at intercept does this to women and poc all the time.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link
not really. willis is a well-known punching bag at this point
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link
i definitely hate-read his timeline from time to time but i stopped tweeting mean things at him when i turned 20
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link
Really. Greenwald retweeted him twice, then the racist abuse piled up. So yeah.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link
and how racist were the GG tweets?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:23 (seven years ago) link
well I guess we learned why JD suddenly cares about oliver willis' opinion on this matter
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:24 (seven years ago) link
I vaguely remember Willis being an Internet Somebody back during Bush's second term, but haven't paid attention to him since maybe 2006.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:25 (seven years ago) link
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), 17. januar 2017 23:23 (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
They were just retweets. He didn't put on a single word, didn't in any way ask for people to do what they did.
He don't have to. And he knows what happens, it's the same thing that always happens.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link
retweeting peoples vile tweets is a crime
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link
i know that in the court of public wokepinion that is evidence enough to convict greenwald of being worse than trump, but believe it or not journalists (even the "good" ones) mock/hate RT other people all the time. i didn't think disavowing the racist BS that random people spew was necessary on ilx but if it makes you happy, fred, then here you go
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link
no kev, you misunderstand freddy b, gg specifically retweeted willis because he wanted a racist pile-on, but he is cunning enough not to be explicitly racist himself, because he is crafty
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:29 (seven years ago) link
i find it quite troubling that fred, posting from a continent currently experiencing increased right-wing and anti-semitic sentiments, seems to always find a way to have unkind words for this particular gay jewish journalist. but that's none of my business
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:32 (seven years ago) link
willis works for media matters, which is damning enough w/o the dumb tweets
― salthigh, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:39 (seven years ago) link
xp
get that Fred's a punching bag, but c'mon.
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link
These Europeans are all the same.
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link
The sensitivity surrounding Greenwald and his #Putincept...
Which is a hashtag used by Oliver Willis. Yeah, he can be pretty tiresome. And he's definitely wrong about Chelsea Manning. People have flaws, some are way too soft on the IC, and some turn a blind eye to racist/sexist harassment from their followers. I didn't bring up what happened to Oliver Willis, I just pointed out it was instigated by Greenwald, and that he must have expected this kind of thing would be happening. Both things accurate. Calm down guys.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link
obviously i was being facetious with my post. i think even fred got that
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link
Also, #EuropeisNotaCountry.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link
i said continent. my joke post is airtight
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link
Obama also pardons Oscar Lopez Rivera
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link
https://www.lawfareblog.com/obama-right-chelsea-manning
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 23:52 (seven years ago) link
Paul Ryan and Bob Menendez both blasting the Manning commutation, so let's commend Obama for uniting them in bipartisan shitheadism.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 01:54 (seven years ago) link
Judith Miller @JMfreespeechObama commutes sentence of Chelsea Manning. How many people died because of manning' leak?
@tinyrevolutionIt's not that Judith Miller thinks it's BAD to publish things that get people killed. It's that she's competitive.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 02:34 (seven years ago) link
http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2017/1/17/14303388/willie-mccovey-pardon-president-obama
Big surprise, because I don't really remember this ever happening in the first place.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:16 (seven years ago) link
Lol: Lol: http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/314783-assange-lawyer-conditions-not-met-for-assange-manning-extradition-offer
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link