what do you want obama to do during his last month in office?

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i predicted it

flopson, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link

there was a report a few weeks ago (last week maybe?) that Obama was seriously considering it, so I saw it coming. I don't think Assange was bluffing.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:47 (seven years ago) link

gonna be fun to see "progressives" line up to complain about this

https://twitter.com/owillis/status/821468232276148225

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:01 (seven years ago) link

who the fuck is oliver willis

akm, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link

what a weird position to have

akm, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link

I don't know either but he's Verified™

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link

I have no idea who Oliver Willis is and don't really care that he thinks Manning is a traitor since I think his opinion is as meaningless as my opinion that this is a good thing for the Obama administration to have done. What I do care about is that a black dude said The Wrong Thing on Twitter and apparently has a bunch of white people making fun of his appearance for it. So basically, as far as I can tell everyone needs to check themselves and shut the fuck up.

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:07 (seven years ago) link

oliver willis is a nincompoop

very pleasantly surprised by obama's commutation of her sentence. what he put manning through was cruel and unjust and this implicitly acknowledges that

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

that kind of pile-on reminds me why i never tweet and it's part of why the internet has ruined everything.

nomar, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link

just don't express regret that a whistleblower isn't going to be kept in solitary confinement until she successfully attempts suicide on twitter is my trick to avoided internet pile-ons

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:15 (seven years ago) link

I also don't know who oliver willis is but he does have 58k followers who are presumably pretty left-wing, so it's not like it's just 'pile on random black dude'

iatee, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link

Oliver Willis being a nincompoop doesn't justify thinly-veiled racism thrown at him by randos on Twitter.

(The caption: “fine dining.”) (DJP), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:17 (seven years ago) link

he's obviously wrong but it's just the typical internet OTT response which is pretty eyerolling at best.

nomar, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link

and at worst, yes what DJP said

nomar, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link

This pile-on was instigated by Glenn Greenwald, btw.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:19 (seven years ago) link

Him and the others at intercept does this to women and poc all the time.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link

not really. willis is a well-known punching bag at this point

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link

i definitely hate-read his timeline from time to time but i stopped tweeting mean things at him when i turned 20

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link

Really. Greenwald retweeted him twice, then the racist abuse piled up. So yeah.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link

and how racist were the GG tweets?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:23 (seven years ago) link

well I guess we learned why JD suddenly cares about oliver willis' opinion on this matter

iatee, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:24 (seven years ago) link

I vaguely remember Willis being an Internet Somebody back during Bush's second term, but haven't paid attention to him since maybe 2006.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:25 (seven years ago) link

and how racist were the GG tweets?

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), 17. januar 2017 23:23 (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They were just retweets. He didn't put on a single word, didn't in any way ask for people to do what they did.

He don't have to. And he knows what happens, it's the same thing that always happens.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link

retweeting peoples vile tweets is a crime

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link

i know that in the court of public wokepinion that is evidence enough to convict greenwald of being worse than trump, but believe it or not journalists (even the "good" ones) mock/hate RT other people all the time. i didn't think disavowing the racist BS that random people spew was necessary on ilx but if it makes you happy, fred, then here you go

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:27 (seven years ago) link

no kev, you misunderstand freddy b, gg specifically retweeted willis because he wanted a racist pile-on, but he is cunning enough not to be explicitly racist himself, because he is crafty

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:29 (seven years ago) link

i find it quite troubling that fred, posting from a continent currently experiencing increased right-wing and anti-semitic sentiments, seems to always find a way to have unkind words for this particular gay jewish journalist. but that's none of my business

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:32 (seven years ago) link

willis works for media matters, which is damning enough w/o the dumb tweets

salthigh, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:39 (seven years ago) link

xp

get that Fred's a punching bag, but c'mon.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link

These Europeans are all the same.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

The sensitivity surrounding Greenwald and his #Putincept...

Which is a hashtag used by Oliver Willis. Yeah, he can be pretty tiresome. And he's definitely wrong about Chelsea Manning. People have flaws, some are way too soft on the IC, and some turn a blind eye to racist/sexist harassment from their followers. I didn't bring up what happened to Oliver Willis, I just pointed out it was instigated by Greenwald, and that he must have expected this kind of thing would be happening. Both things accurate. Calm down guys.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

obviously i was being facetious with my post. i think even fred got that

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link

Also, #EuropeisNotaCountry.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link

i said continent. my joke post is airtight

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link

Obama also pardons Oscar Lopez Rivera

Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link

Paul Ryan and Bob Menendez both blasting the Manning commutation, so let's commend Obama for uniting them in bipartisan shitheadism.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 01:54 (seven years ago) link

Judith Miller
‏@JMfreespeech
Obama commutes sentence of Chelsea Manning. How many people died because of manning' leak?

@tinyrevolution
It's not that Judith Miller thinks it's BAD to publish things that get people killed. It's that she's competitive.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 02:34 (seven years ago) link

http://www.mccoveychronicles.com/2017/1/17/14303388/willie-mccovey-pardon-president-obama

Big surprise, because I don't really remember this ever happening in the first place.

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:16 (seven years ago) link


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