the only seed of truth in that beer poptimism article is that a lot of craft beers a created w/out a thought for why they should exist or why anyone should drink them
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 22 January 2017 03:26 (seven years ago) link
jfc eater really is terrible
The underlying theoretical arguments of beer poptimism run largely in tandem with its musical counterpart. Much in the way that critic Maura Johnston explained that poptimism is about "understanding that the underlying musical complexities of Britney Spears's 'Toxic' can be as intricate as, say, those lurking within Jellyfish's 'New Mistake,'" a beer poptimist might posit, for instance, that the precise engineering that goes into every can of Coors Light is perhaps as artful as the tang of a prized lambic.
"might posit, for instance"
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Sunday, 22 January 2017 03:56 (seven years ago) link
ffs drink what you like and stfu about it
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Sunday, 22 January 2017 03:59 (seven years ago) link
says guy who has posted 700 times to the beer thread?
I think I know what you meant though
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Sunday, 22 January 2017 04:11 (seven years ago) link
i'm having jackie o's coffee stout right now and it's pretty good― marcos, Saturday, January 21, 2017 7:26 PM (one hour ago)
― marcos, Saturday, January 21, 2017 7:26 PM (one hour ago)
Jackie O's stouts (esp the bourbon barrel aged ones) are pretty low-key slept on.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 22 January 2017 05:08 (seven years ago) link
last jackie o's stout i had was infected :(
they make some great stuff tho
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 22 January 2017 12:42 (seven years ago) link
good lord that was the worst thing I've read about beer in forever
― Johnny Cage - 4'33" Fatality (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 22 January 2017 13:16 (seven years ago) link
Drinking Narragansett just because it's cheapAlso to alternate it with something with more character
― calstars, Sunday, 22 January 2017 19:12 (seven years ago) link
http://www.foodandwine.com/beer/craft-beer/25-most-important-american-craft-beers-ever-brewed
― Jeff, Thursday, 26 January 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link
have had three of those
lol at #2 tho
and ive had their #1 which wasnt very memorable
might try it again just in case
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link
really enjoyed that article, and I feel like the ranking was more about historical importance/trend-driving than "quality"
― intheblanks, Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:08 (seven years ago) link
have had 9 of those, which i guess shows how much the list leans on the classics, given i live in the uk.
xpost
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:08 (seven years ago) link
had number 25 for the first time last night, currently in usa
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:09 (seven years ago) link
I remember serving a keg of #1 at my birthday party in 2002 and people were utterly spitting it out because they thought it was so bitter. These days there are pilsners and milds that are the same IBU.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link
still think it's a great beer
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link
Has Hopslam always been $17 a sixer?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 January 2017 22:15 (seven years ago) link
great list
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 January 2017 23:19 (seven years ago) link
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, January 26, 2017 5:04 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i've posted this before i'm sure but #1 is still a perfect beer in every respect, and despite the number of blown-out hoppy beers i've consumed that little piney cascade kick always gets me.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 26 January 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link
Surprised at all the Anchor. I know Anchor has its place in history, but that was a lot.
― Jeff, Thursday, 26 January 2017 23:21 (seven years ago) link
I've had 15 of those beers and am drinking one right now,
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 January 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I am never disappointed to have #1. I also fucking love their celebration ale, listed in there too.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 26 January 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link
gonna add it to the list
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 26 January 2017 23:52 (seven years ago) link
#1 that is
I just had a Gouden Carolus Noël 2011. I'm okay with basically everything
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Friday, 27 January 2017 00:13 (seven years ago) link
victory prima (on that list) is really good
― calstars, Friday, 27 January 2017 01:21 (seven years ago) link
i don't think i've ever had anchor porter or liberty, would like to try if i had a prayer of finding them fresh around here.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 27 January 2017 01:32 (seven years ago) link
Hopslam has always been spendy, yeah.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 27 January 2017 01:49 (seven years ago) link
I have had 18 of the beers on that list. In about 2001 or so a friend had a comically large bottle of Anchor Christmas ale that got shamefully consumed after all other drinks ran out at a party.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 27 January 2017 01:52 (seven years ago) link
i think i've had 14 unless i accidentally drank a widmer hefe 10 years ago
― call all destroyer, Friday, 27 January 2017 02:16 (seven years ago) link
I've had 14 of those, Anchor Steam was the first I remember backstage at a Phish show in 1993 - I thought it was fucking disgustingly bitter at the time and it really grossed me out.
― joygoat, Friday, 27 January 2017 02:59 (seven years ago) link
I think Anchor Steam should be #1, in addition to being good (then and now) it seems to have been the priming that got the entire craft beer pump going. I liked it from the first time I tried it (possibly in the 70s, def by early 80s). It was literally the only good American beer available.
― nickn, Friday, 27 January 2017 04:24 (seven years ago) link
I've only had 10, at least according to my untapped which only goes back to December 2010. So probably more, since I know I've had many of the Anchors and Boston lagers, but since they weren't log, I just can't count them.
― Jeff, Friday, 27 January 2017 10:58 (seven years ago) link
I've only had three of them #merica craft beers.
― Johnny Cage - 4'33" Fatality (King Boy Pato), Friday, 27 January 2017 12:32 (seven years ago) link
#1 was what I'd expect to be #1 as a non-American. For as a non-American, that's the first beer ya think of when someone says American craft beer.
― Johnny Cage - 4'33" Fatality (King Boy Pato), Friday, 27 January 2017 12:33 (seven years ago) link
The nice thing about that list is how not rare and common many of those are, which just goes to show how much great beer is out there that doesn't involve trading, black market, waiting in lines, lotteries, etc., Heady Topper and Dark Lord aside. It's nice to know that even your corner grocery store has got the goods these days. (That said, my wife is working on the Miller/Coors account right now, and I can barely feign interest.)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 January 2017 12:59 (seven years ago) link
I have had more of those than Jeff has?!?
It is interesting to consider that most of the "important" ones are things you can buy in 12ozx6 format.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 27 January 2017 13:08 (seven years ago) link
I haven't had many of those. Drank a lot of #1 (fnarr) when I lived close to Chico, CA. I was happy to see La Folie on the list — maybe my favorite beer of all.
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Friday, 27 January 2017 13:32 (seven years ago) link
Xp
I avoid anything i can get a 6 pack of
Which was gonna say no wonder ive not had many of these?
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 27 January 2017 15:40 (seven years ago) link
http://appellationbeer.com/blog/10-beers-that-changed-america/
Compare with this list written in 2007.
― Jeff, Friday, 27 January 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link
7. Goose Island Bourbon County Stout – A rarity in 1995, but if BusinessWeek is right then barrel-aged beers have reached the tipping point.
lollllll
― call all destroyer, Friday, 27 January 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link
― Jeff, Thursday, January 26, 2017 4:54 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
great list imo
― marcos, Friday, 27 January 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
i've had about 15 or 16 of those, all of them pretty solid. i need to remember to buy more anchor beers. their bock (which i don't think they brew anymore) was one of the best bocks i've ever had
― marcos, Friday, 27 January 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link
first time i had #1, SNPA, i was pretty blown away
― marcos, Friday, 27 January 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link
pretty excellent list i agree. never had the Dark Lord but am most intrigued by that one out of the ones i'm unfamiliar with.
― nomar, Friday, 27 January 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link
It seems like the most hit or miss. Hard to tell if people are disappointed each year or just sour grapes.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 January 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
victim of its own hype imo, unrealistic expectations
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 27 January 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link
Dark Lord itself has this kind of salty note on the finish that has lead many people to start calling it "soy sauce" over the past few years. That said, the bourbon barrel aged variants of Dark Lord that I've had are among the best BA stouts I've ever had (esp: "Marshmallow Handjee") but the base beer has definitely taken a hit in reputation. 3 Floyds has just hired Todd the Axe Man away from Surly so I expect them to start winning over more people.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 27 January 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link
i've had it a couple times and did find it varying from outstanding to pretty good. wish i could remember the ages and vintages.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 27 January 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link
It kinda shows the hivemindness of this new era, 3 years ago Dark Lord was considered a top 10-20 charts beer on all the aggregator sites. The needle keeps moving.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 27 January 2017 20:16 (seven years ago) link
the #1 beer on beer advocate hasn't actually been released since november 2015, lol
― call all destroyer, Friday, 27 January 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link