Beer in the new era

i'm having jackie o's coffee stout right now and it's pretty good

― marcos, Saturday, January 21, 2017 7:26 PM (one hour ago)

Jackie O's stouts (esp the bourbon barrel aged ones) are pretty low-key slept on.

last jackie o's stout i had was infected :(

they make some great stuff tho

jfc eater really is terrible

good lord that was the worst thing I've read about beer in forever

Drinking Narragansett just because it's cheap
Also to alternate it with something with more character

http://www.foodandwine.com/beer/craft-beer/25-most-important-american-craft-beers-ever-brewed

have had three of those

lol at #2 tho

and ive had their #1 which wasnt very memorable

might try it again just in case

really enjoyed that article, and I feel like the ranking was more about historical importance/trend-driving than "quality"

have had 9 of those, which i guess shows how much the list leans on the classics, given i live in the uk.

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had number 25 for the first time last night, currently in usa

I remember serving a keg of #1 at my birthday party in 2002 and people were utterly spitting it out because they thought it was so bitter. These days there are pilsners and milds that are the same IBU.

still think it's a great beer

Has Hopslam always been $17 a sixer?

great list

and ive had their #1 which wasnt very memorable

might try it again just in case

― F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, January 26, 2017 5:04 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've posted this before i'm sure but #1 is still a perfect beer in every respect, and despite the number of blown-out hoppy beers i've consumed that little piney cascade kick always gets me.

Surprised at all the Anchor. I know Anchor has its place in history, but that was a lot.

I've had 15 of those beers and am drinking one right now,

Yeah I am never disappointed to have #1. I also fucking love their celebration ale, listed in there too.

gonna add it to the list

#1 that is

I just had a Gouden Carolus Noël 2011. I'm okay with basically everything

victory prima (on that list) is really good

i don't think i've ever had anchor porter or liberty, would like to try if i had a prayer of finding them fresh around here.

Hopslam has always been spendy, yeah.

I have had 18 of the beers on that list. In about 2001 or so a friend had a comically large bottle of Anchor Christmas ale that got shamefully consumed after all other drinks ran out at a party.

i think i've had 14 unless i accidentally drank a widmer hefe 10 years ago

I've had 14 of those, Anchor Steam was the first I remember backstage at a Phish show in 1993 - I thought it was fucking disgustingly bitter at the time and it really grossed me out.

I think Anchor Steam should be #1, in addition to being good (then and now) it seems to have been the priming that got the entire craft beer pump going. I liked it from the first time I tried it (possibly in the 70s, def by early 80s). It was literally the only good American beer available.

I've only had 10, at least according to my untapped which only goes back to December 2010. So probably more, since I know I've had many of the Anchors and Boston lagers, but since they weren't log, I just can't count them.

I've only had three of them #merica craft beers.

#1 was what I'd expect to be #1 as a non-American. For as a non-American, that's the first beer ya think of when someone says American craft beer.

The nice thing about that list is how not rare and common many of those are, which just goes to show how much great beer is out there that doesn't involve trading, black market, waiting in lines, lotteries, etc., Heady Topper and Dark Lord aside. It's nice to know that even your corner grocery store has got the goods these days. (That said, my wife is working on the Miller/Coors account right now, and I can barely feign interest.)

I have had more of those than Jeff has?!?

It is interesting to consider that most of the "important" ones are things you can buy in 12ozx6 format.

I haven't had many of those. Drank a lot of #1 (fnarr) when I lived close to Chico, CA. I was happy to see La Folie on the list — maybe my favorite beer of all.

Xp

I avoid anything i can get a 6 pack of

Which was gonna say no wonder ive not had many of these?

http://appellationbeer.com/blog/10-beers-that-changed-america/

Compare with this list written in 2007.

7. Goose Island Bourbon County Stout – A rarity in 1995, but if BusinessWeek is right then barrel-aged beers have reached the tipping point.

lollllll

http://www.foodandwine.com/beer/craft-beer/25-most-important-american-craft-beers-ever-brewed

― Jeff, Thursday, January 26, 2017 4:54 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

great list imo

i've had about 15 or 16 of those, all of them pretty solid. i need to remember to buy more anchor beers. their bock (which i don't think they brew anymore) was one of the best bocks i've ever had

first time i had #1, SNPA, i was pretty blown away

pretty excellent list i agree. never had the Dark Lord but am most intrigued by that one out of the ones i'm unfamiliar with.

It seems like the most hit or miss. Hard to tell if people are disappointed each year or just sour grapes.

victim of its own hype imo, unrealistic expectations

Dark Lord itself has this kind of salty note on the finish that has lead many people to start calling it "soy sauce" over the past few years. That said, the bourbon barrel aged variants of Dark Lord that I've had are among the best BA stouts I've ever had (esp: "Marshmallow Handjee") but the base beer has definitely taken a hit in reputation. 3 Floyds has just hired Todd the Axe Man away from Surly so I expect them to start winning over more people.

i've had it a couple times and did find it varying from outstanding to pretty good. wish i could remember the ages and vintages.

It kinda shows the hivemindness of this new era, 3 years ago Dark Lord was considered a top 10-20 charts beer on all the aggregator sites. The needle keeps moving.

the #1 beer on beer advocate hasn't actually been released since november 2015, lol

You had that one right?

i did. i was unmoved.

Hah. I had CBS when it was in the top 3 and was similarly nonplussed.

cad is tree house brewing new? i never heard of them when i lived in MA