"And in the end, they were just self-important young men with sad childhoods and no morals."
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
i think if you got a bunch of shitkickers to sit down and explain what they thought they were up to it would sound fundamentally sick and illogical and self-protective, kind of like this article did.
xp hm yeah omar you're probably right. maybe the girl in the bentley (!? still can't believe that detail -- is the money real?) wasn't 'really' a confrontational anti-semite, the act itself is revelatory enough -- who needs to pretend to be that?
― goole, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
that car was a rental, guaranteed
― omar little, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link
well no doubt but i don't have the cash to even rent one, either
― goole, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link
time to monetize challops
― dan m, Monday, 4 August 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Like I said, it is briefly mentioned. This is a poor analogy, but imagine if NY Times wrote an article about this new trend; young men were going around beating random people in the street. And then, instead of discuss the actual interesting thing about this (what is wrong with the perpetrators, and why they feel they need to participate in this destructive/abusive behavior), they spent the entire article writing about the "beating people culture" and giving a soap box for the people to discuss their bizarre, political explanations for their behavior.
I see your point but I think when reporters do try to do this the explanations often end up being reductive and broad-brush
maybe he could have found an "ex-troll" with some remorse / hindsight / perspective
― dmr, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
the conflation of devoted trolls and cyber criminals doesn't seem all that strange to me because their motives and justifications for their behavior are usually word-for-word exactly the same whether they have the acumen to actually commit crimes beyond harassment or not
― El Tomboto, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought that was actually pretty cool about the article, actually, since for whatever reason I have never put spyware-writing sons of bitches and irritating b/tards on a spectrum before, though it seems obvious
― El Tomboto, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Me too, and I dug the lack of armchair psychology...a natural opportunity is there for the reader to connect boyhood to full-growned man dots if so desired without all "DO YE SEE?" in yr face.
― Abbott, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah if you need a reporter to tell you that these kids were all fucked up straight out the womb then you're probably a mendelian whoopsie yourself
― El Tomboto, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Here's the link to Schwartz's interview this morning, if anyone's interested. Fast-forward to 7:00 in this clip. It's about 13-14 minutes long.
― Rock Hardy, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link
i do love the motives these dudes ascribe to themselves esp since there is no consistency in the "battles" they choose to "fight"
― omar little, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah it was REALLY obvious enough. i mean come on, is that really what you wanted to be reading, more speculation about their childhoods? xxxp
― s1ocki, Monday, 4 August 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
the quote about "fixing" his parents just fuckin said it all
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/danish-zoo-that-dissected-giraffe-kills-four-healthy-lions-1.1738109
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link
Query in thread title never fully addressed.
― I wear the fucking pin, don't I? (Aimless), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 01:51 (ten years ago) link
classic if done well
― markers, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 01:55 (ten years ago) link
the value of the question is not, perhaps, in the quick answering of it
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 01:56 (ten years ago) link
!!!!
― waterbabies (waterface), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 01:57 (ten years ago) link
It's fine in informal communication, email, poetry, and advertising headlines. Three would be most common. Two, four, or more is rarer.
It's never "officially" correct. The people who write books about how punctuation should be used in English tolerate only two levels of enthusiasm: not enthusiastic and enthusiastic. The idea that somebody might be very enthusiastic is too alarming to contemplate.
― treeship's assailing (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link
????????
― waterbabies (waterface), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link
An update on Weev now that his sentence was overturned. I really don't have anything to add to this except that I think we're all screwed.
Want a bump?”It’s not that surprising when Andrew “weev” Auernheimer offers me coke shortly after we first meet. As one of the Net’s most notorious trolls, the scruffily elfin 28-year-old is known for his provocations. He’s the former president of the Gay Nigger Association of America (GNAA), a group of online pranksters who lived up to their offensive name. In YouTube “sermons,” as he calls them, weev guzzles from a large bottle of mescaline tea and waves his gun as he rants against Jews. “We’ve got a whole fucking Internet to cover with dongs and swastikas,” he writes, “and we’ve got a whole world to fill with monuments to martyrs that the government dares call ‘terrorists.’ Let the ruin begin.”Weev’s been called an “attention whore,” a “paranoid, anti-Semitic, pro-genocide misanthrope,” and likened to a hobbit battling “the snide, wizardly manipulators and mongrel half-orcs” from The Lord of the Rings (and that last one’s from him). But what is surprising is that he’s offering me a bump while we’re in the Brooklyn office of his lawyer, who has just left us sitting alone. Dressed in a green hoodie over a red T-shirt, with a shaggy red beard, scraggly long hair, and tortoise-shell glasses, weev huffs a line as classical music flows from his laptop. He exhales pleasurably, cleaning up just before a legal assistant comes in. “We’re working on your passport,” she tells him.“Awesome!” he replies. “I got a jet waiting!”
It’s not that surprising when Andrew “weev” Auernheimer offers me coke shortly after we first meet. As one of the Net’s most notorious trolls, the scruffily elfin 28-year-old is known for his provocations. He’s the former president of the Gay Nigger Association of America (GNAA), a group of online pranksters who lived up to their offensive name. In YouTube “sermons,” as he calls them, weev guzzles from a large bottle of mescaline tea and waves his gun as he rants against Jews. “We’ve got a whole fucking Internet to cover with dongs and swastikas,” he writes, “and we’ve got a whole world to fill with monuments to martyrs that the government dares call ‘terrorists.’ Let the ruin begin.”
Weev’s been called an “attention whore,” a “paranoid, anti-Semitic, pro-genocide misanthrope,” and likened to a hobbit battling “the snide, wizardly manipulators and mongrel half-orcs” from The Lord of the Rings (and that last one’s from him). But what is surprising is that he’s offering me a bump while we’re in the Brooklyn office of his lawyer, who has just left us sitting alone. Dressed in a green hoodie over a red T-shirt, with a shaggy red beard, scraggly long hair, and tortoise-shell glasses, weev huffs a line as classical music flows from his laptop. He exhales pleasurably, cleaning up just before a legal assistant comes in. “We’re working on your passport,” she tells him.
“Awesome!” he replies. “I got a jet waiting!”
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 31 July 2014 02:54 (nine years ago) link