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Magnolia >>> Boogie Nights (both are amazing, though)

― Tape Store, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

deep throat at the drive in? Like, can't you see that from the highway?

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i was just having a conversation last night about how great the comedy is in this movie.

i say classic.

― s1ocki, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah if there's one thing this movie has that its Scorsese sources don't, its a lot of good jokes.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

feel, feel, feel...feel the heat.

― Granny Dainger, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

"so do you work out?"

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

"Hey, are those lizard?"

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"No, they're Italian."

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

scorsese has jokes but not as comedic as they are here. really funny improv stuff.

― s1ocki, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:11 (seventeen years ago) link

the departed was the funniest fucking movie of last year.

― max, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

uh please note I didn't say that Scorsese can't be funny. He has lots of teh funnies depending on what film your watching. But the Scorsese films that PTA copped from for Boogie Nights (primarily Raging Bull and Goodfellas) are not broadly comic in the way Boogie Nights is.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

When I first saw Boogie Nights I didn't enjoy it much because I felt that the turn toward darkness was way too extreme. I felt like it took too negative a view of the porn world. I prefer the happy-go-lucky porn fantasy. However, the movie has grown on me over the years. John C. Reilly's performance is pure comic gold.

Magnolia starts out with lots of promise, but goes way too far over to the darkside. I can't really handle the 30 minute long deathbed speech. Once the characters start lipsyncing to Aimee Mann, I have to turn it off. But again, I love John C. Reilly as the rappin' cop.

― Moodles, Friday, 23 March 2007 03:55 (seventeen years ago) link

One time my sister came over to my house to watch Orgazmo, which I hadn't seen in a couple of years. I said, "Oh good, it's already in the VCR," so I pressed play. It was way grainier and fuzzier than I remembered, "Wow, looks like they tried to give it that '70s porn vibe and everything." And then the words came up on the screen: BEHIND THE GREEN DOOR...wrong tape.

So didyou continue watching? Sadly never saw BTGD. :-(

― nathalie, Friday, 23 March 2007 08:39 (seventeen years ago) link

deep throat at the drive in? Like, can't you see that from the highway?

kenan on Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:37 (Yesterday)

HAHAHA, I first read this post without seeing the one it was responding to, and I was like "Uh, I guess if you're really well endowed, and she's bobbing her head A LOT"

― Hurting 2, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

On the train last week there was a crude, homemade sticker with a picture of John C. Reilly, and it just said, "Support John C. Reilly." And I thought, right on.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I felt like it took too negative a view of the porn world.

Is such a thing possible? Some nasty shit has gone on there...

I don't remember which of BN's laughs were intentional, amid all the pomposity. While I found Molina's perf excellent, I didn't find his scene fall-on-the-floor particularly funny, cuz I don't find yapping coke freaks hilarious.

Also, to find John C. Reilly a plausible porn star, he'd need a big bad mustache.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I am going to buy this at lunch at the local $10 DVD sale

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Nath, we quit watching...BTGD is pretty crap tho. Marilyn Chambers gets kidnapped and then put in a hypnotic trance or something. She goes out onto a stage in front of an audience of assorted weirdos all glammed out. A black guy comes out w/tribal makeup/necklaces and big white pants w/a hole cut out for his dong, they're playing all this wacky drum music, it's totally offensive & not sexy. Then she blows a guy while giving two others handjobs; the guys aresuspended in head-level swings. The only good thing abt it is the money shot, they play some scary-ass synth drone like a more malignant Tangerine Dream, and it does that '70s video effect of black silhoutte/solid color background, transposed over one another and in super slow motion. -fin-

― Abbott, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry to derail. I love Boogie Nights and I do think it's fucking hilarious. It felt a little too long tho.

PHS buying a sports car to win a man's love>>>>>>>>>>>>WHM buying braces to win a man's love

― Abbott, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The scene with "The Touch" is absolutely one of my favorite scenes of any movie, ever.

― nickalicious, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

this movie's about as deep as 'pulp fiction' which isn't to say it's bad (it's extremely entertaining) but its overtures at depth are just window dressing. and the turn towards the darkside just feels mechanical and meaningless (because after all it's not really a downward slide for anyone, it's just one or two bad nights on the town).

― botero, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree, except I only found it fitfully entertaining.

Oh, and the only overt homosexuality (in this very pansexual demimonde) is from Phil S Hoffman's pathetic lackey fag? Depressing.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Abbot OTM about Behind the Green Door! Pretty much sucks but the psychedelic ending sequence is a wonder to behold... there's far more interesting/stranger 70s porn fare out there (Sexworld! Cafe Flesh!)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't remember which of BN's laughs were intentional, amid all the pomposity. While I found Molina's perf excellent, I didn't find his scene fall-on-the-floor particularly funny, cuz I don't find yapping coke freaks hilarious.

yeah but it's a yapping coke freak playing Night Ranger with a scrawny dude in the b.g. throwing FIRECRACKERS

― latebloomer, Saturday, 24 March 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

absolutely hewn-from-stone classic.

although this thread is making me think i should maybe never watch it again, just in case i change my mind.

sometimes i hate ILX.

"magnolia" is one of my favourite ... not just films ... creations, i guess ... in the whole world ever.

― grimly fiendish, Saturday, 24 March 2007 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

t's just one or two bad nights on the town

Uh, I dunno about that... when yr givin weird guys handies for blow money, that means you're on a bad streak. Yknow?

I love the scene with Molina, especially when he's talking about making mix-tapes, and then the tape turns over in the stereo and its called "My Awesome Mix #4'. And Jesse's Girl!

― the table is the table, Saturday, 24 March 2007 01:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"magnolia" is one of my favourite ... not just films ... creations, i guess ... in the whole world ever.

oy veh.. thats some horrible shit.

― chaki, Saturday, 24 March 2007 01:15 (seventeen years ago) link

grimly, just so you know...

Magnolia is my fave film of all time.
I can see why a person might not like it.
But I am so glad that I'm not that person.

― peepee, Saturday, 24 March 2007 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still not quite sure what i think of Magnolia.

― latebloomer, Saturday, 24 March 2007 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i think anderson may be a bit too protective of his characters. he always takes their side!

― ryan, Saturday, 24 March 2007 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Put me in the defending Magnolia camp. I mean, I watch it and can see all the faults that other people point out and it makes total sense as to why people would hate it, but I still fucking love it each and every time.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 24 March 2007 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Magnolia has some fantastic acting. But I hate Aimee Mann. The frogs. Mostly everything else about it, actually. I have a hard time hating anything with Seymour Hoffman in it, though...

― the table is the table, Saturday, 24 March 2007 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

re: Magnolia

Jon Brion's score >>>>>>>>>> Aimee Mann's songs

(has this thread been hijacked?)

― peepee, Saturday, 24 March 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Magnolia is underrated. Boogie Nights is overrated.

― Eric H., Saturday, 24 March 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Punch Drunk Love was R-rated. (Or was it?)

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Metacritic says aye. It was also one of the most irritating, artificial films I've ever seen.

― unfished business, Saturday, 24 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Magnolia is underrated

Not by drinkers of the PT Kool-Aid.

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 24 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

(postscript: Maybe I'll 'get' it if I see it again. I actually enjoyed it whilst it lasted, but it left the sourest of aftertastes. I felt duped, by the faux-eccentric touches (such as the capsizing lorry in the opening shot), which I felt had been used to spruce up a manipulative and wholly insightless 'fall guy gets the girl'-type love story whose characters I felt virtually no sympathy with.)

― unfished business, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Not by drinkers of the PT Kool-Aid.

Yeah, I was sort of exempting them.

― Eric H., Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I felt like it took too negative a view of the porn world.

Is such a thing possible? Some nasty shit has gone on there...

Maybe I should re-watch it, but I remember it as a slice of porn world. I didn't find any real message in the film. It was just a depiction of what it was like back then. I always like to think of the porn world as extremely hard, *unless* you can shrug off all the nasty bits (literally and figuratively speaking).

― nathalie, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It's Punch Drunk Love's achievement of sorts to indulge the most irritating actors in contemporary cinema.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I really enjoyed PDL. Eh, that and Hard Eight. Sheesh, should I call myself an Anderson fan? Ek, no. Magnolia just spoiled it for me.

― nathalie, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i think anderson may be a bit too protective of his characters. he always takes their side!

ryan on Friday, March 23, 2007 11:05 PM (Yesterday)

You're kidding, right? PT Anderson isn't quite the sadist that, say, Lars von Trier is, but the guy punishes his characters to an uncalled-for degree. Actually I think Anderson is worse because he acts like he cares about them so much--like a wife beater. "No one could ever love you the way I do." Smack, smack, smack!

I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic because that's a crazy thing to say.

― lindseykai, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

uh... i'm going to assume you're joking about comparing a director to a wife beater.

― kenan, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't speaking literally. I don't think Fiona Apple or Maya Rudolph would put up with such behavior.

― lindseykai, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

possibly my favourite american film of the 90's. just fantastic.
where's the best, cheapest place to get the (still ludicrously unavailabele in the UK) Region 1 comic-book cover edition?

― pisces, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish all of Magnolia was just like the first 5 minutes, with footage of bizarro anomalies. They could still cut in the bits of Tom Cruise's seminar, which was fucking hilarious. They could also include the scene of Wllm. H. Macy in the bar while "the Logical Song" plays. Those are the only parts of the movie I remember clearly...the rest just felt like PSH sitting and pouting at Julianne Moore.

― Abbott, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

RESPECT THE COCK

― latebloomer, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i think some rapper sampled that and Cruise sued the pants off of 'em

― latebloomer, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not even his movie!

I think he should incorporate taming the cunt into his scino screels.

― Abbott, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

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