Any reason why ILM is so quiet these days?

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I agree with lex about it being way worse ten years ago. I was pretty much jeered at non-stop for my first two years, and I can't really blame them. I mean, I've written some not-good posts in the past week or so, but even those are prob 2000% better than stuff I was saying on the reg in 2006/7

I dont know if imago would back me up on this or not but it is a little strange to see his 'ahahaha' held up as emblematic of current board toxicity when there was practically a genre of threads dedicated to banning him back in the day

gaznevada coombes (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link

ned really should have started a friggin' website for pete's sake. with advertising. get some $$ for all those links. you can make money with link sites, no?

Next best thing: I ended up with a column:

http://www.nashvillescene.com/music/nashville-cream/article/20850325/neds-atomic-link-bin

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:29 (seven years ago) link

I dont know if imago would back me up on this or not but it is a little strange to see his 'ahahaha' held up as emblematic of current board toxicity when there was practically a genre of threads dedicated to banning him back in the day

Mm.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link

I didn't mean the specific comment, more the general exchange.

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link

btw there is an ilxors version of that group scott mentions. Quite a few ex ilxors from the old days are in it.

Its very relaxed and noone gets mocked for what they post. Anyone who wants to can join

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ilxorsnowplaying/

Odysseus, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link

i have a kneejerk reaction to any "things used to be better" hot take about anything but i've been on ilx pretty much since the beginning and i can say with certainty that it has always been good and bad, if not always in the same ways. anyone pining for some golden past of ilx is kidding themselves, same as anyone pining for some golden past of american history or whatever.

na (NA), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link

ILX turns 17 in summer. Weird to think about.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link

almost time for the "ILX: Hot, Ready, and Legal" thread

nomar, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link

several xposts:

I've been following the discussion.

― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 6:24 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ I'm just going to leave this here for you again, Brad, since your comprehension skills still haven't seem to have improved.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link

sry can't read pls try me again when you're able to express yourself like an adult instead of a ponderous dickhole

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

almost time for the "ILX: Hot, Ready, and Legal" thread

― nomar, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:35

lol

Odysseus, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link

Calling all dickhole dads

Evan, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

ugh fighting with turrican isn't fun bc he's really boring, sorry i even brought him up as a joke

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

"dickhole dads" still haunting me imo

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link

hearing it to the tune of the Flintstone kids vitamin jingle now

rob, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

i am a dad and a dickhole but i feel like those are separate facets of my identity usually idk ask my kids they may disagree

sheer presence, look and size (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

can't believe nomar linked lagoon's entire t-shirt collection upthread

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:43 (seven years ago) link

lmao

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

can't believe nomar linked lagoon's entire t-shirt collection upthread

― mh 😏, Tuesday, February 7, 2017

one for the pub and one for the web

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link

btw Brad the google alert joke was good and I wasn't even aware of this non-beef

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

Which dogs thread?

how's life, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

speaking of t-shirt collections u know what the internet is missing? a website that comprehensively catalogues band t-shirts.

Mordy, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

and i end up hating other people on facebook in a way that i never have here.)

I think because ilxors just appear as letters on a screen it's easier to forget which ones told me to fuck off in the past.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

speaking of t-shirt collections u know what the internet is missing? a website that comprehensively catalogues band t-shirts.

http://tshirtarchive.com/

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

I like turrican and brad and i wish they didnt hate each other

Odysseus, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link

that's kind of what I've been talking about. a newcomer wanders in, the most popular thread is a beef ouroboros. they wander into a thread for their favorite artist; it's dead. they think "hmm, I guess I use Spotify," more beef. or they think "I wonder if I can read some music writing," then discover that the most populated thread is dedicated to shitting on writers, sometimes with obvious reason but sometimes for reasons that lie deep in the depths of music writer drama. and then there is much handwringing about why the newcomer didn't stick around.

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

ugh fighting with turrican isn't fun bc he's really boring, sorry i even brought him up as a joke

a cardboard box with an angry face drawn on it is still a cardboard box

wins, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

I misread that as a website that comprehensively catalogues bad t-shirts.

probably some overlap

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link

katherine's post is reminding me of early 90s comic books

"I don't know who any of these badly-drawn characters are or why they're fighting!"

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link

pls try me again when you're able to express yourself like an adult instead of a ponderous dickhole

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 6:37 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is priceless coming from you, Brad. May I forward everyone to The 1975 thread to witness Brad's idea of expressing oneself as an adult, which looks remarkably like someone expressing themselves as a 14 year old emo kid.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link

http://beeftastic.com/Beef%20tastic%20Head%202.jpg

Evan, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link

if only we could find some reason why ILM is so quiet these days

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

well done evan

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

me/turri beef is not really much of a beef imo. lex was talking upthread about kicking back against received wisdom and turri is a on certain subjects a received wisdom player piano and i like to yell about it. we probably would agree and hug about which genesis records are good, or something

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

a cardboard box with an angry face drawn on it is still a cardboard box

― wins, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 6:50 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Calling oneself "wins" doesn't make one a winner either.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

I mean it's true, I can't keep track of who hates me let alone who hates other people

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

buddy I haven't even gotten around to listening to the 1975, now you want me to read a thread about em?

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link

that's kind of what I've been talking about. a newcomer wanders in, the most popular thread is a beef ouroboros. they wander into a thread for their favorite artist; it's dead. they think "hmm, I guess I use Spotify," more beef. or they think "I wonder if I can read some music writing," then discover that the most populated thread is dedicated to shitting on writers, sometimes with obvious reason but sometimes for reasons that lie deep in the depths of music writer drama. and then there is much handwringing about why the newcomer didn't stick around.

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 6:50 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the only one of these that's a new thing for the current era of ilx is #2 (I'm sure there were Soulseek beefs back in the day).

lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:58 (seven years ago) link

so weird when people come in my store and they know me from here and they never post!!! they are always nice though.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link

YSI Justice vs Simian beefs RIP.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link

lol I read part of the 1975 thread and the offending behavior is literally chiming in "this band sucks" combined with the classic i know more about this band and their origins and what they're going for so i can tell you objectively they suck routine I pulled when I genuinely didn't understand other human beings as a kid

this is not rational, normal human behavior but wow it's classic messageboard stuff

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link

on the other hand one of my fave things about lex (hi lex!) is his ability to complain about music without making it personal about the people who do like that music

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link

lex is a force for good.

man, people used to be HOUNDED out of this place. it was brutal. it really is not like that now.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:08 (seven years ago) link

I feel like that's a subtle dog thread jab. Typical dickhole dad child bias

Evan, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:10 (seven years ago) link

once the dickholes turned into dads things softened up around here

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/the-smartiest-persons/images/5/53/Bob-saget-o.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140911212440

nomar, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:10 (seven years ago) link

i know this post reads ridiculously, but its funny to read through this thread for posts that are clearly intended to be about me LOL

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link

http://beefzilla.com/00%20Crave%20tastic%20Black%20900%20x%20200.jpg

Evan, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link

theres an old ilx spirit of challenging conventional wisdom that the Nice Dads crew have kind of given up over the years, in response to a stronger-than-ever critical consensus reinforced by the appearance of popular consensus through social media that has in many ways had a strangling power on what had been "poptimist" discourse. not that my own proclivities could be reduced to poptimism, but it was preferable to the imagined wisdom of crowds based on a silo'd social media experience for sure

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:15 (seven years ago) link

i told my kid today that i wanted to kill myself and kill everyone else around me. all because he was playing annoying youtubers on his phone trying to find out if tweetypie or whoever is an alt-nazi. i'm trying to quit smoking. he understood. i apologized. also, i was playing youtubes of ilx's fave albums of 2016 on the t.v. and the phone noise was bugging me. then i left the house. and ilx is soothing me. the walk in the snow with the other kid helped too.

talk about a dick dad!

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link

xp I think I get what you're going for but I'm going to request you send that in for editing

mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link


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