Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

For spectulation's sake, Nazi Germany came to being from many Germans feeling powerless, humiliated, and dehumanized after WWI. Many Americans are feeling that way from Americans themselves, from our system itself. We're in some strange waters here.

And now we've got hate entrepreneurs ready to take full advantage of it.

Thanks for the replies. I have some reading to do, clearly.

If you believe opinion polls -- and who knows whether you should, but it's what we've got -- universal coverage up to and including some version of single-payer has typically polled above 60 percent pretty consistently, at least in concept. Obama may have been relying on that when he pushed ahead, figuring that regardless of the political fight it would end up being popular. But, as he usually did, he overestimated the power of rational argument and underestimated tribal affiliation. If Republicans had decided to work with him and make the ACA something they could sell, the story would have been different. But once it became a with-him-or-against-him issue, a lot of people who probably would have been ok with it in principle instead decided it was the worst thing ever. None of the "repeal Obamacare" posturing since has really had anything to do with the substance of the law or people's actual ideas about how to provide a functional health care system (which, of course, most people don't really understand well enough to have an opinion about anyway). Which leads to the current predicament, where Republicans feel duty-bound to repeal a thing they've spent the last seven years demonizing, even though probably a good number of them understand it's not actually a demon and they don't actually have any ideas that are going to provide more or better health care.

take with a speculative grain of salt, but

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-collusion-campaign-us-spies-nsa-agent-considerable-intelligence-a7613266.html

How much of it is tribalism, and how much of it is the fact that our entire media system is owned and controlled by entities that did everything they could to shoot down single payer? This is the sole source of information for most people, especially since our communities, social lives, and society in general has been gutted. Not only that, but we've been dehumanized and turned against each other by the same system.

I mean, the New York Times has even attacked the bearers of single payer.

xp

I don't even think it's the "brown people", these same people voted for Obama for president, and got pissed off when they still got shat on when they tossed out their prejudices for hope.

― larry appleton

I do think there's a "brown people shouldn't get white people level health care, unless they can pay for it" aspect to it.

How much of that is propaganda, though? People giving up a significant benefit to themselves has to have some impetus, and tied into that "brown people" argument is also the same line of thinking espoused by the very sources of that argument: free market, etc. Hmmm.

All wrapped up in the dopamine rush of patriotism, glory, nostalgia, and hatred.

As I've been saying, people need to be deprogrammed from this shit, but with the way our system and laws are setup, hard chance right now. People need to start talking to each other again separated from the media apparatus as it is.

How much of it is tribalism, and how much of it is the fact that our entire media system is owned and controlled by entities that did everything they could to shoot down single payer? This is the sole source of information for most people, especially since our communities, social lives, and society in general has been gutted. Not only that, but we've been dehumanized and turned against each other by the same system.

I mean, the New York Times has even attacked the bearers of single payer.

― larry appleton

It starts with the elite right, and is adopted by the prole right as their code. They don't necessarily read/watch the MSM, but it gets to them filters by the hard-core right outlets.

"filtered"

What I meant by that is that we're on our own out here, and we have to determine our destinies for ourselves. Even "liberal bastions" of the New York Times aren't on our sides, when it comes down to it. Unless you're part of the take-the-sack-of-money-and-run class.

tons of xps, voting for Obama to be the President doesn't have to have anything to do with believing in actual equal opportunity

Orange King really seems to have become a paranoid deluded man recently - I think we may see a president Pence soon after he looses it completelty - he will FIRE himself

Crossing my fingers for a win by Antonio French in St Louis today. It would be a major surprise, the white status quo candidate is the favourite, but man, it would be good.

Louise Mensch's husband manages Metallica and the Chili Peppers?

Yep.

Wow. Maybe the Trump/Russia stuff will ultimately take them out, too.

I can imagine her seducing liberals, their hearts sad and guilty yet overflowing with lust

Peter Mensch also managed Lostprophets, as British Twitter delights in mentioning.

take with a speculative grain of salt, but

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-collusion-campaign-us-spies-nsa-agent-considerable-intelligence-a7613266.html

Pinning your hopes on the boy who has cried wolf is only going to lead to heartbreak.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/322664-chaffetz-americans-may-need-to-choose-between-buying-new-iphone-or-healthcare

like buying an iphone every fucking month you asshole. god i hate this smug prick

Key to understanding some dissatisfaction with ACA is, I think, recognizing that it didn't make healthcare FEEL more accessible for a lot of people. A $5k deductible (might as well be $5mn for many) combined with all the HMO bullshit of obstruction and obstacles (I've had three different insurance companies + three different GPs in three years due to plans not being offered or companies dropping out) does not make people feel ownership over their healthcare.

Pin a bunch of blame on Republican states refusing money and insurance companies being evil but those are part of the ACA experience.

ACA mess distilled down via headline to "GOP Plan Doesn't Know What Problem It Is Trying To Solve."

Schindler's claims are become so crazy that the dude really has to start backing them up with more than just claims. At least Rick Wilson's claim of an oppo drop came to be, and he seemed as perplexed as anyone that it took as long as it did. But Schindler is getting quotes like "he will die in jail," or who claims that the IC has tapes, or this latest one:

John Schindler, a security expert and former counterintelligence officer, tweeted: “Learned fm very reliable IC sources that Trump WH, w/help fm Russian intel, is targeting US journalists. Rough road ahead. Get ready, peeps.”

I mean, peeps have been ready for almost a year. What gives, slowpokes?

https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/peeps__140422233738.jpg

Power to the peeple

We are coming up on Peeps season, so ...

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51MiDDBIwzL.jpg

https://c3.staticflickr.com/2/1053/530921810_f59ab404aa_m.jpg

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/clapper-trump-asked-refute-unconfirmed-dossier-45950221

Crossing my fingers for a win by Antonio French in St Louis today. It would be a major surprise, the white status quo candidate is the favourite, but man, it would be good.

Me and most of my friends from the area are rooting for Tishaura Jones.

Why?

lol

https://twitter.com/spiralmusic/status/839142878349824001

Watching deputy AG hearings, and man, all of these senators are sooooooo old. Hatch and Leahy sound like they're about to fall over.

xpost

https://www.thenation.com/article/can-a-champion-of-black-lives-matter-become-mayor-of-st-louis/

@nytimes
President Trump’s wiretapping claims puncture veneer of presidential civility

@firetomfriedman
won't somebody think of the veneer of presidential civility!?!?

New York City’s public housing authority will see at least $35 million less in federal aid this year, in what appears to be the first significant funding cuts to the city under President Donald Trump.
Senior officials at the New York City Housing Authority said the cuts were the largest decrease in funding the agency has seen in five years. Citing conversations with federal housing officials, they said they were bracing for additional cuts that could be far greater, and total $150 million. Shola Olatoye, the agency’s chief executive officer, said a reduction of that size would be devastating.

“The direction we’re moving in is one where public housing is drastically different or doesn’t exist,” she said. “The progress we have made over the course of the last three years—it’s not that it’s at risk. It evaporates.”

The New York City Housing Authority, known as NYCHA, is home to more than 400,000 people, and makes up the biggest single block of affordable housing in the country. About $2 billion of its $3.2 billion operating budget comes from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, or HUD.

real wtf:

Several city officials who have worked with HUD said they believe the cuts may have been undertaken by career bureaucrats at the federal housing agency working to blunt the impact of more drastic cuts later this year.

“The career people are not people who want to harm public housing,” one of these officials said.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-aid-reduced-for-new-york-city-housing-authority-1488844639

fucking hell

Trump '16 - let's get dickensian

ROFL

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/839097965050544128

i've been tuning out schindler. what's the point of making these big claims before anything is revealed?

the scoop my man

ROFL

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/839097965050544128

― Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:31 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

something something widening gyre

I like how the word was Sunday that they were going to try and 'refocus' on the positive with the new EO and the health care plan announcement. And once more, botch. (Also loving how the fallback was 'but there are two more healthcare stages!' and the response rather rightly seems to be 'and those are?')

Also, Wikileaks, CIA, etc. Also, Comey isn't going to go rock out at SXSW any more due to 'scheduling conflicts,' and Alfred's favorite person, James Baker, will replace.

This administration has been pretty good at politicizing previously apolitical people. I think, ultimately, they're going to prove equally deft at full-on radicalizing people, as well. Sure, casually render thousands of people homeless. I'm sure that's going to work out very well for you.

Also, Comey isn't going to go rock out at SXSW any more due to 'scheduling conflicts,' and Alfred's favorite person, James Baker, will replace.l

wait what

*checks* Ah, sadly, a different James Baker. Otherwise you'd already be booking your tickets, I know.

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/839132324381995009