Run Quick EMO ALBUMS; Here I’ll POLL, You VOTED

129 83 3 0 Coheed & Cambria - In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth

huh. we may be the only place on earth to prefer second stage (we're right)

Wow. This was the best poll ever. Middy thank you so much - you are great!

And ArchCarrier you also are amazing!

This poll was dope. Knew hardly anything & have now dived into so much great music (like I have 10 more new favorite bands) & it has legit improved my mood this week

thanks to mordy & archcarrier and all the ilx emobears

haha emobears

:D

http://i.imgur.com/j0SBn0j.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NgVgKiK.jpg

emobear:

http://static.spin.com/files/field/image/110121-black-cards-1.jpg

Who is that?

pete wentz!

i know you shun mall emo but cmon

i was walking home from work just now listening to frame & canvas when i realized i was walking past the front door of where the old tower records used to be, the same spot where i purchased frame & canvas nineteen years ago :-}

https://i.imgur.com/LvQoDRz.jpg

...and where a student barber gave me an $8 haircut four years ago

:)

And it hasn't grown since? That's a bargain!

aw :)

sup

01 Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart
02 Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
03 Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy
04 The Weakerthans - Reconstruction Site
05 Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary
06 The Wrens - The Meadowlands
07 Constantines - Tournament Of Hearts
08 Jawbreaker - Bivouac
09 Sunny Day Real Estate - How It Feels to Be Something On
10 Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You
11 Juno - A Future Lived in Past Tense
12 Seaweed - Four
13 Rainer Maria - Look Now Look Again
14 Knapsack - This Conversation Is Ending Starting Right Now
15 Jawbox - S/T
16 Fugazi - Repeater
17 Shudder To Think - Pony Express Record
18 Knapsack - Day Three of My New Life
19 Bedhead - Transaction de Novo
20 Rites of Spring - Rites of Spring
21 Jets to Brazil - Orange Rhyming Dictionary
22 Death Cab for Cutie - The Photo Album
23 Hum – You'd Prefer an Astronaut
24 Pretty Girls Make Graves - Good Health
25 Royal Headache - High
26 Burning Airlines - Mission: Control!
27 Fall Out Boy - Folie a Deux
28 Get Up Kids - Something to Write Home About
29 Knapsack - Silver Sweepstakes
30 Smart Went Crazy - Now We're Even

Had a wee look at the Rate Your Music alltime emo list

http://tinyurl.com/RYM-Top-Emo-Alltime

gradAy

mordy based on your list you are the most faithfully emo, i think the exercise might've benefited from you policing more aggressively after all

Shelter - Mantra

Ha wow!

man... I'm crying that I had to miss the final bit of the rollout today. just caught up.

Bold placed. emo to the max B-)

Copeland – In Motion
Brand New - The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me
Saves the Day - Stay What You Are
Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American
Dashboard Confessional - The Places You Have Come to Fear the Most
Copeland – Beneath Medicine Tree
The Appleseed Cast - Mare Vitalis
Thursday - War All the Time
Mae - Destination: Beautiful
Armor For Sleep - Dream to Make Believe
Pedro the Lion – Control
Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
Circa Survive - On Letting Go
The Get Up Kids - Something to Write Home About
Coheed and Cambria - Second Stage Turbine Blade
Jets to Brazil - Orange Rhyming Dictionary
Armor For Sleep - What To Do When You Are Dead
Thrice - Artist in the Ambulance
Taking Back Sunday - Tell All Your Friends
Knapsack - This Conversation Is Ending Starting Right Now
Brand New - Deja Entendu
Mae - The Everglow
The Early November - The Room's Too Cold
Dashboard Confessional - The Swiss Army Romance
The Get-Up Kids - Four Minute Mile
Paramore - Brand New Eyes
The Appleseed Cast - Low Level Owl
Further Seems Forever - How to Start a Fire
The Spill Canvas - One Fell Swoop
Dashboard Confessional - A Mark, A Mission, A Brand, A Scar
Death Cab for Cutie - Transatlanticism
Boys Night Out - Trainwreck
Saves the Day - Through Being Cool
Juno - This Is the Way It Goes and Goes and Goes
Sparta - Porcelain¬
Chamberlain - Fate's Got a Driver
Straylight Run - Straylight Run
Further Seems Forever - Hide Nothing
Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary
Taking Back Sunday - Louder Now
Something Corporate - Leaving Through the Window
Paramore - Paramore
Matchbook Romance - Stories and Alibis
Penfold - Our First Taste of Escape
The Promise Ring - Nothing Feels Good
Paramore - All We Know Is Falling
Motion City Soundtrack - Commit This to Memory
The Starting Line - Say It Like You Mean It
Thursday - Full Collapse
Rival Schools - United by Fate

biggest surprise non placements imo:

Pedro the Lion – Control
Thrice - Artist in the Ambulance

no Further Seems Forever

it pleases me that there wasn't that much overlap btwn voters for the Juno albums. time to get that reissue petition started.

Props to Mordy and ArchC for the poll, I've run two so I know how much time/effort it takes.

I had a blast over the last few weeks reacquainting myself with so much music I hadn't really visited in a while. Was fun re-forming opinions on this stuff at such a different phase in my life. As well as learning about so much more.

Genuine thanks to everyone involved in the nomming/rollout for keeping it light and fun. Ive got a lot of not-emo(!) gripes with a fair share of the picks but it doesn't matter in the end, great results anyway. My fav part of these types of threads is when people talk about their favorite tracks and album moments and specific details about those, and there was a lot of that itt. Hi5 to Brad, Simon, AC, Mordy, my closest neighbors I think.

<3 <3 <3

and yes having recently done the Cohen poll I am also aware of how much of a pain in the neck these are to run!

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(felt like someone needed to type those in an emo poll that prominently features makeoutclub-era bands)

Really regretting not voting for Orange Rhyming Dictionary now - listened to it last night for the first time in ages and it sounded great. Also it was the very first emo album I bought (January 2000 after seeing it mentioned in the NME). Happily I discovered I still have the CD lying around.

Best discoveries from the poll?

Mostly new stuff to me. Currently enjoying the Weakerthans and Appleseed Cast.

And not to harp on, but There Will Be Fireworks are worth a listen in this vein:

https://youtu.be/6-0LZ8my44s

https://youtu.be/Ia_o3kw6PGg

relistening to both juno albums today, thanking simon again for introducing me to my new favorite band of all time

honestly it's been almost a month and I don't know if my CDs are ever getting here so this seems as good a time as any

memorial thread of love and mystery for Juno, the Seattle rock band

SO I listened to 2 Jimmy Eat World and 2 Brand New albums and i thought they were ok.

Biggest discoveries for me were Thursday and Brand New.

There's some good OOP albums on this bandcamp from screamo/post-hardcore groups so maybe they should put out the Juno and Gospel albums?

https://thearchivistlabel.bandcamp.com/

The forcefedglass album on there is fantastic if you like screamo.

omg the Quicksand/Rival Schools axis of melodic Catherine Wheel-y post-hardcore is my JAM

I used to go to a shitty club indie/rock in Guildford and 'Head to Wall' takes me right back to those heady days.

Who gave the other votes to Okara and i hate sex?

Love that someone voted for both Engine Kid records since I missed the deadline. Props to your ballot Odysseus

I liked the I Hate Sex album. I prolly should've voted for it over a few of my picks.

I voted for Avril Lavigne.

1. The Get Up Kids - Something to Write Home About
2. The Anniversary - Designing a Nervous Breakdown
3. Hum – Downward is Heavenward
4. Shudder To Think - Pony Express Record
5. At The Drive-In - Relationship of Command
6. Avril Lavigne - Let Go
7. Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American
8. Rival Schools - United by Fate
9. The Dismemberment Plan - Change
10. The Promise Ring - Very Emergency
11. The Used - The Used
12. Hum – You’d Prefer an Astronaut
13. Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart
14. Quicksand - Manic Compression
15. Ozma - Rock and Roll Part Three
16. Seaweed - Four
17. Quicksand - Slip
18. Sunny Day Real Estate - How It Feels to Be Something On
19. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity
20. Against Me! - New Wave
21. The Promise Ring - Nothing Feels Good
22. Panic at the Disco - Pretty. Odd
23. Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary
24. Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
25. Pedro the Lion – Control
26. Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You
27. Constantines - Tournament Of Hearts
28. The Good Life - Album Of The Year
29. The Get Up Kids - On a Wire
30. Hop Along - Get Disowned

in retrospect it's weird that Get Disowned got nommed but not Painted Shut.

true but either way i don't find hop along to be emo at all

Straight in at 101-125 // Emo Poll Near Misses

Regarding the emo/non-emo distinction: maybe this is too obvious to be right, but I've always thought that one of the main things that distinguishes emo from adjacent punk-derived styles was its focus, especially lyrically but also musically, on vulnerable emotions like sadness and desperation.

That would explain why a band with a sterling emo pedigree like Fugazi (half of Rites of Spring and the lead singer of Embrace!) isn't really emo (lots of oblique, outward-looking songs about politics and stuff), while a band with virtually no subcultural connection to emo like Weezer can place an album in the top ten of this poll.

So, without judgment, I've been trying to work out/articulate something about how I think the understanding of the term/concept "emo" has evolved and why there’s so much disagreement on what it means, even if we just look at it in terms of thematic/lyrical content. My sense is that post-00, people are using it to mean something like “earnest, unreflexive expression of the raw emotions of sadness or romantic heartbreak”? And I think this might be fundamentally different from what it meant in the context of ≈85-96 post-hardcore. Even with uncontroversially canonical emo artists like Rites of Spring or Moss Icon, I can’t really imagine them writing lyrics like these (quoted upthread as quintessentially emo lyrics):

And I haven't been taking my meds
So lock all the cabinets, and send me to bed
Cause I know you're still worried
I'm gonna get scared again
And make my insides clean with your kitchen bleach
But I've kissed enough bathroom sinks
to make up for the lovers that never loved me

My sense is that “emo” just meant they were dealing with personal introspection as opposed to singing about smashing the state but i) the emotions in question were not limited to, or even necessarily focused on, romantic heartbreak and ii) the way these emotions were addressed was either with introspective, even obsessive, reflection and self-doubt or with somewhat oblique and abstract poetic lyrics (cf Moss Icon), both of which are different from raw heart-on-sleeve purging. I think this is true even of the sappiest stuff like Rites of Spring’s “For Want Of” or Still Life’s “Outside Looking In”, let alone something like Moss Icon’s “Guatemala”. I think that people weren’t trying to write “Straight Edge” but they also weren’t trying to write “Pictures of You”.

Sort of a half-baked off-the-cuff hypothesis. A lot of you guys clearly know this stuff better than I do.

You so want to teach this subject to your students, don't you?

Oh, I'd be doing a better job of this if I were going to teach it.