Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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BREAKING: Federal Court strikes down large portions of Texas Congressional map as violation of VRA and Constitution.

Please let this stick. TX needs the change badly!

Moodles, Saturday, 11 March 2017 09:07 (seven years ago) link

what's this thing about Spicer committing a felony in his response to a question about the Russia investigation?

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Saturday, 11 March 2017 11:31 (seven years ago) link

It's from a satire site afaict.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 11 March 2017 11:51 (seven years ago) link

I figured as much.

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Saturday, 11 March 2017 12:02 (seven years ago) link

Maybe you were thinking of this? re: jobs announcement

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-spicer-broke-a-federal-rule-when-he-1489164146-htmlstory.html

The White House was excited Friday when the first jobs report of the Trump administration came in stronger than expected.

But one official got carried away and broke an obscure federal rule by publicly touting the data too soon.

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer took to Twitter 22 minutes after the Bureau of Labor Statistics released the February jobs report.

He tweeted that the 235,000 net new jobs and the slight decline in the unemployment rate was "great news for American workers."

But the timing of the tweet was not great news for Spicer.

It didn't take long for some experienced jobs-report watchers to note that he had jumped the gun and violated a longstanding prohibition against executive branch officials publicly commenting on the report within an hour of its release.

Specifically, Spicer broke the Office of Management and Budget's Statistical Policy Directive No. 3, adopted in 1985.

"Except for members of the staff of the agency issuing the principal economic indicator who have been designated by the agency head to provide technical explanations of the data, employees of the Executive Branch shall not comment publicly on the data until at least one hour after the official release time."

Among those pointing out the violation was Jason Furman.

As chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors under President Obama from 2013 until this past January, Furman emailed a lengthy analysis of the monthly jobs report and often went on TV to discuss the data.

Furman tweeted that the rule has been in place for decades and "everyone has followed it. Until now."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 March 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/10/roger-stone-trump-confidant-acknowledges-innocuous/

Roger Stone wrote the Russians, asked them for help in spreading fake news.

Frederik B, Saturday, 11 March 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link

all this pointing out hypocrisy/rule-breaking is so tedious... it needs to be done, but it's p much worthless politically xp

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 11 March 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link

Yup

Οὖτις, Saturday, 11 March 2017 16:30 (seven years ago) link

They're mavericks who live by their own code but it's cool because dammit they get results.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Saturday, 11 March 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

It's a situation where you're telling a dude who keeps burning people's houses down that what he's doing is wrong and that he's breaking the law but you live in a town with no police and no jail so he just flips you the bird and burns your house down. What can be done?

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Saturday, 11 March 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link

it needs to be done, but it's p much worthless politically xp

to the extent that anyone notices, it helps trump. people love when trump breaks the rules anyway, might as well be an obscure one that seems a little silly

Karl Malone, Saturday, 11 March 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/10/politics/ukraine-manafort-hacked-texts/

Paul Manafort's daughter had some harsh things to say about him in 2015

Moodles, Saturday, 11 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

i feel like Trumpworld is populated by two kinds of people: the unspeakably sinister and the obsequious dorks. Manafort's obv the former. Weird crowd.

Treeship, Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

Hang out with Roy Cohn enough, you'll get to know his groupies.

Sanpaku, Saturday, 11 March 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link

Manafort is amoral even by the standards of the industry but it's best to remain sceptical about the SMS leaks. They have already been used to smear an anti-corruption Ukrainian MP with barely-credible bribery allegations. It's fairly amazing authorities that have convicted, iirc, one person of corruption in the last three years have magically been able to find secret ledgers with details of payoffs to Manafort, a troublesome pro-Europe politician trying to blackmail him and, now, a suggestion that he orchestrated a massacre.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 11 March 2017 21:35 (seven years ago) link

Bonkers, per the usual:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/during-his-political-rise-stephen-k-bannon-was-a-man-with-no-fixed-address/2017/03/11/89866f4c-0285-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html

Like:

At the same time Bannon said he was living with his ex-wife, she was under investigation for involvement in a plot to smuggle drugs and a cellphone into a Miami jail, a law enforcement document obtained by The Post shows.

Or:

One of the allures of Florida is its zero income tax rate for in-state residents. The Post was unable to determine what state Bannon claimed as his primary residence for the purpose of income tax.

And of course:

The Opechee house was left in disrepair, according to an email between the landlord and Bannon and interviews with the landlord.

Padlocks had been placed on interior doors — or the doors had been removed altogether. A hot tub was destroyed.

“Entire Jacuzzi bathtub seems to have been covered in acid,” the landlord wrote in the February 2015 email to Bannon.

“I’m out of town,” Bannon replied. “is there any way u can talk with Diane and sort things out ???”

The damage was estimated at more than $14,000, according to an accounting by the landlords, who kept the $9,800 security deposit from Bannon and Clohesy.

Kammerer, their real estate agent, said he was troubled by the damage.

“I would not work with them after that,” he said. “I would not refer them again as clients of mine.”

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 March 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link

tbf bannon probably secreted the acid as part of a routine cleansing ritual, and expecting him to keep track of which surfaces his body will and won't destroy is a lot to ask of any one monster from the shadow realm

art, Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link

(In the correct thread, now). Speaking of floridaman escapades from the Trump camp, from the Smoking Gun expose on Roger Stone.

In 1996, Stone was forced to resign a top post with Bob Dole’s presidential campaign after the National Enquirer reported that he and his wife Nydia, now 69, had placed numerous ads online and in swingers magazines seeking single men and couples for group sex. One ad described Stone as a bodybuilder and included a shirtless photo of him with a black bar over his eyes. His wife is pictured topless in an accompanying image.
Stone initially denied placing the ads, claiming that they were the work of a “very sick individual.” But years later he admitted to The New Yorker that the ads were authentic, and described himself as a “libertine.”
Undaunted by the Dole disaster, the Stones continued swinging. In a December 2006 post on the Dark Cavern web site, the couple advertised for a male partner who “must be 22-40, lean, muscular and hung like a horse.” The ad, which included Stone’s Hotmail address, offered a graphic description of Nydia’s body and the notation that “Obedient husband shares her cunt.” Respondents were directed to “Contact me/us with a photo of face/body/meat.” The Stone ad was found on a meetup page for Florida swingers.

I can't wonder if the whole "cuck" phenonenon from interracial porn to alt-right pejorative might have have deeper roots in the psychology of the alt-right.

From Roy Cohn (went from being McCarthy's prosecutor to defending mafioso and dying, closeted, in the AIDS epidemic), Paul Manafort ("he has no legal or moral compass"), Roger Stone (swinger specializing in political mudslinging), to Steve Bannon (domestic violence and cirrhosis), hell, Trump himself ("If he wasn't my father, I would spray him with Mace"), all of Trump's close associates are deeply repulsive. The hypocrisy of the Religious Right, who will be Trump's last defenders, is glaring. I hope, without much support, that this will mark the high-tide of that movement, as evangelical baby boomers release us from their clutches, funeral by funeral.

Sanpaku, Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:02 (seven years ago) link

"entire bathtub, covered in acid" is pretty good flash fiction. XP to self

art, Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link

dissolving a body

Treeship, Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link

come on

Treeship, Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link

face/body/meat

j., Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:04 (seven years ago) link

FYI muriatic acid:

Safe for: PVC plumbing
Unsafe for: older ceramic fixtures, glass, cast iron, copper, human flesh
.

Sanpaku, Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:09 (seven years ago) link

Trump's America, March 2017: Entire Jacuzzi Bathtub Seems To Have Been Covered In Acid

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 12 March 2017 03:13 (seven years ago) link

Liiiiiiike...I and many others have said variations on this before, but all evidence suggests that the constituent members of this administration are avatars of the worst people that anyone has been personally acquainted with. The people you would never want to live near or work with or directly engage in any way. I fundamentally fail to understand how anyone who isn't a complete nihilist would want anything less than for these filthmongers to be penned up like the animals they are. God.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Sunday, 12 March 2017 06:24 (seven years ago) link

yeah well our politics has been seekin' its level for awhile now

Roger Stone is a clownshow, but exactly how does 'swinging' constitute an element of being "deeply repulsive"? Consenting adults etc. Rather puritanical to point to as "evidence." (I'm leaving aside the hypocrisy element of ppl who are libertines who seek the Holy Roller vote, bcz Stone isn't fooling anybody, at least not now.)

(you people still like rock stars, i guess?)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 March 2017 06:46 (seven years ago) link

how anyone who isn't a complete nihilist would want anything less than for these filthmongers to be penned up like the animals they are
Find better words dude. Half the battle is rhetoric, and "filthmongers" and "the animals they are" are loanwords from crypto-racists and puritans on the right. We can do better.

Also ain't nothing wrong with swingers, but a swinger who throws his lot in with the "family values" crowd (yeah, I know they don't use that term anymore) is a charlatan plain and simple.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Sunday, 12 March 2017 07:00 (seven years ago) link

I get your general point (my irl verbiage wrt The Enemy is much more selective and less vehement than when I'm spewing vitriol 'round these parts) but I guess I'm unaware of 'filthmonger' as a term in regular use by...anyone?

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Sunday, 12 March 2017 07:23 (seven years ago) link

Stone as swinger only taints those who voluntarily come into sexual contact with him.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Sunday, 12 March 2017 07:25 (seven years ago) link

Its never what they do in private, but the hypocrisy of working for Bible thumpers. Stone has spent his life infiltrating the McGovern campaign, lobbying for Mobuto Sese Seko & Ferdinand Marcos, coordinating the "Brooks Brothers riot" against the 2000 Florida recount, and likely being a go between for the Trump campaign and Russian hackers. Lots of people despise the guy, and with good reason.

Sanpaku, Sunday, 12 March 2017 07:30 (seven years ago) link

Really, though, and again: what we initially see as hypocrisy or contradiction from these people is just noise disguising their uniform dedication to the perpetuation of rich white American male hegemony. As long as they continue fighting that good fight, they're allowed whatever seemingly-discrepant proclivities they so choose.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Sunday, 12 March 2017 07:40 (seven years ago) link

^OTM

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Sunday, 12 March 2017 08:33 (seven years ago) link

Sanpaku that "If he wasn't my father, I would spray him with Mace" quote was a Conan joke:

http://www.snopes.com/ivanka-trump-said-if-donald-trump-wasnt-her-father-she-would-mace-him/

gr8080, Sunday, 12 March 2017 12:58 (seven years ago) link

Its never what they do in private, but the hypocrisy of working for Bible thumpers. Stone has spent his life infiltrating the McGovern campaign, lobbying for Mobuto Sese Seko & Ferdinand Marcos, coordinating the "Brooks Brothers riot" against the 2000 Florida recount, and likely being a go between for the Trump campaign and Russian hackers. Lots of people despise the guy, and with good reason.

― Sanpaku

Trump supporters don't despise him enough to withhold support of their candidate. Accusing Republicans of hypocrisy never works. They care -- rightly -- about power.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 March 2017 13:15 (seven years ago) link

Almost a Tom Swifty, there

El Tomboto, Sunday, 12 March 2017 13:46 (seven years ago) link

"fairness" is an irrelevant, elite preoccupation. it's dog-eat-dog, survival of the fittest, every man for himself out there, just like it says in the four gospels (which stuck up, dirty liberals disdain)

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 12 March 2017 14:40 (seven years ago) link

I'm kind of taken aback that America actually has white supremacists in Congress.

https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/840980755236999169?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Alba, Sunday, 12 March 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link

My hunch is that Steve King plays peek-a-boo with his white supremacist ideas, and covers his eyes whenever it is inconvenient to see them. Then, if he can't see them, they must not be there.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 12 March 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link

not a recent development iirc

yeah but that is esp. blatant. fuuuuck this guy and anybody who votes for him.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 12 March 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

Hey, let's just give him a chance!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 March 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

tbf congress has been home to vocal white supremacists for the vast majority of its history

Οὖτις, Sunday, 12 March 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link

https://vine.co/v/iJbUWJaEmhX

gr8080, Sunday, 12 March 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link

Maybe he's Ted's understudy? Crossed with Heaven's Gate cultist.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link

xxpost Yeah, I was gonna say. We're just in an era where more of the white supremacists feel comfortable espousing their viewpoints in mixed company. While undeniably horrifying, it's also kinda refreshing to see that villains aren't pretending to be anything else these days.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Sunday, 12 March 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link

I dug this of general explanation of GOP epistemological issues:

http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/3/10/14871696/scott-pruitt-climate-denial

International House of Hot Takes (kingfish), Sunday, 12 March 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link

sign me up! real america can go fly a kite!

https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/bluexit-blue-states-exit-trump-red-america

scott seward, Sunday, 12 March 2017 21:56 (seven years ago) link

i like a good sad liberal rant.

scott seward, Sunday, 12 March 2017 21:56 (seven years ago) link

i laughed...

"Not even the good people of Canada should have to stomach a mass migration of moping American liberals mumbling, “Live locally … make art.”

scott seward, Sunday, 12 March 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link

cillizza to cnn!

mookieproof, Monday, 13 March 2017 14:00 (seven years ago) link


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