Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/10/roger-stone-trump-confidant-acknowledges-innocuous/

Roger Stone wrote the Russians, asked them for help in spreading fake news.

all this pointing out hypocrisy/rule-breaking is so tedious... it needs to be done, but it's p much worthless politically xp

Yup

They're mavericks who live by their own code but it's cool because dammit they get results.

It's a situation where you're telling a dude who keeps burning people's houses down that what he's doing is wrong and that he's breaking the law but you live in a town with no police and no jail so he just flips you the bird and burns your house down. What can be done?

it needs to be done, but it's p much worthless politically xp

to the extent that anyone notices, it helps trump. people love when trump breaks the rules anyway, might as well be an obscure one that seems a little silly

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/10/politics/ukraine-manafort-hacked-texts/

Paul Manafort's daughter had some harsh things to say about him in 2015

i feel like Trumpworld is populated by two kinds of people: the unspeakably sinister and the obsequious dorks. Manafort's obv the former. Weird crowd.

Hang out with Roy Cohn enough, you'll get to know his groupies.

Manafort is amoral even by the standards of the industry but it's best to remain sceptical about the SMS leaks. They have already been used to smear an anti-corruption Ukrainian MP with barely-credible bribery allegations. It's fairly amazing authorities that have convicted, iirc, one person of corruption in the last three years have magically been able to find secret ledgers with details of payoffs to Manafort, a troublesome pro-Europe politician trying to blackmail him and, now, a suggestion that he orchestrated a massacre.

Bonkers, per the usual:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/during-his-political-rise-stephen-k-bannon-was-a-man-with-no-fixed-address/2017/03/11/89866f4c-0285-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html

Like:

At the same time Bannon said he was living with his ex-wife, she was under investigation for involvement in a plot to smuggle drugs and a cellphone into a Miami jail, a law enforcement document obtained by The Post shows.

Or:

One of the allures of Florida is its zero income tax rate for in-state residents. The Post was unable to determine what state Bannon claimed as his primary residence for the purpose of income tax.

And of course:

The Opechee house was left in disrepair, according to an email between the landlord and Bannon and interviews with the landlord.

Padlocks had been placed on interior doors — or the doors had been removed altogether. A hot tub was destroyed.

“Entire Jacuzzi bathtub seems to have been covered in acid,” the landlord wrote in the February 2015 email to Bannon.

“I’m out of town,” Bannon replied. “is there any way u can talk with Diane and sort things out ???”

The damage was estimated at more than $14,000, according to an accounting by the landlords, who kept the $9,800 security deposit from Bannon and Clohesy.

Kammerer, their real estate agent, said he was troubled by the damage.

“I would not work with them after that,” he said. “I would not refer them again as clients of mine.”

tbf bannon probably secreted the acid as part of a routine cleansing ritual, and expecting him to keep track of which surfaces his body will and won't destroy is a lot to ask of any one monster from the shadow realm

(In the correct thread, now). Speaking of floridaman escapades from the Trump camp, from the Smoking Gun expose on Roger Stone.

In 1996, Stone was forced to resign a top post with Bob Dole’s presidential campaign after the National Enquirer reported that he and his wife Nydia, now 69, had placed numerous ads online and in swingers magazines seeking single men and couples for group sex. One ad described Stone as a bodybuilder and included a shirtless photo of him with a black bar over his eyes. His wife is pictured topless in an accompanying image.
Stone initially denied placing the ads, claiming that they were the work of a “very sick individual.” But years later he admitted to The New Yorker that the ads were authentic, and described himself as a “libertine.”
Undaunted by the Dole disaster, the Stones continued swinging. In a December 2006 post on the Dark Cavern web site, the couple advertised for a male partner who “must be 22-40, lean, muscular and hung like a horse.” The ad, which included Stone’s Hotmail address, offered a graphic description of Nydia’s body and the notation that “Obedient husband shares her cunt.” Respondents were directed to “Contact me/us with a photo of face/body/meat.” The Stone ad was found on a meetup page for Florida swingers.

I can't wonder if the whole "cuck" phenonenon from interracial porn to alt-right pejorative might have have deeper roots in the psychology of the alt-right.

From Roy Cohn (went from being McCarthy's prosecutor to defending mafioso and dying, closeted, in the AIDS epidemic), Paul Manafort ("he has no legal or moral compass"), Roger Stone (swinger specializing in political mudslinging), to Steve Bannon (domestic violence and cirrhosis), hell, Trump himself ("If he wasn't my father, I would spray him with Mace"), all of Trump's close associates are deeply repulsive. The hypocrisy of the Religious Right, who will be Trump's last defenders, is glaring. I hope, without much support, that this will mark the high-tide of that movement, as evangelical baby boomers release us from their clutches, funeral by funeral.

"entire bathtub, covered in acid" is pretty good flash fiction. XP to self

dissolving a body

come on

face/body/meat

FYI muriatic acid:

Safe for: PVC plumbing
Unsafe for: older ceramic fixtures, glass, cast iron, copper, human flesh

Trump's America, March 2017: Entire Jacuzzi Bathtub Seems To Have Been Covered In Acid

Liiiiiiike...I and many others have said variations on this before, but all evidence suggests that the constituent members of this administration are avatars of the worst people that anyone has been personally acquainted with. The people you would never want to live near or work with or directly engage in any way. I fundamentally fail to understand how anyone who isn't a complete nihilist would want anything less than for these filthmongers to be penned up like the animals they are. God.

yeah well our politics has been seekin' its level for awhile now

Roger Stone is a clownshow, but exactly how does 'swinging' constitute an element of being "deeply repulsive"? Consenting adults etc. Rather puritanical to point to as "evidence." (I'm leaving aside the hypocrisy element of ppl who are libertines who seek the Holy Roller vote, bcz Stone isn't fooling anybody, at least not now.)

(you people still like rock stars, i guess?)

how anyone who isn't a complete nihilist would want anything less than for these filthmongers to be penned up like the animals they are
Find better words dude. Half the battle is rhetoric, and "filthmongers" and "the animals they are" are loanwords from crypto-racists and puritans on the right. We can do better.

Also ain't nothing wrong with swingers, but a swinger who throws his lot in with the "family values" crowd (yeah, I know they don't use that term anymore) is a charlatan plain and simple.

I get your general point (my irl verbiage wrt The Enemy is much more selective and less vehement than when I'm spewing vitriol 'round these parts) but I guess I'm unaware of 'filthmonger' as a term in regular use by...anyone?

Stone as swinger only taints those who voluntarily come into sexual contact with him.

Its never what they do in private, but the hypocrisy of working for Bible thumpers. Stone has spent his life infiltrating the McGovern campaign, lobbying for Mobuto Sese Seko & Ferdinand Marcos, coordinating the "Brooks Brothers riot" against the 2000 Florida recount, and likely being a go between for the Trump campaign and Russian hackers. Lots of people despise the guy, and with good reason.

Really, though, and again: what we initially see as hypocrisy or contradiction from these people is just noise disguising their uniform dedication to the perpetuation of rich white American male hegemony. As long as they continue fighting that good fight, they're allowed whatever seemingly-discrepant proclivities they so choose.

^OTM

Sanpaku that "If he wasn't my father, I would spray him with Mace" quote was a Conan joke:

http://www.snopes.com/ivanka-trump-said-if-donald-trump-wasnt-her-father-she-would-mace-him/

Its never what they do in private, but the hypocrisy of working for Bible thumpers. Stone has spent his life infiltrating the McGovern campaign, lobbying for Mobuto Sese Seko & Ferdinand Marcos, coordinating the "Brooks Brothers riot" against the 2000 Florida recount, and likely being a go between for the Trump campaign and Russian hackers. Lots of people despise the guy, and with good reason.

― Sanpaku

Trump supporters don't despise him enough to withhold support of their candidate. Accusing Republicans of hypocrisy never works. They care -- rightly -- about power.

Almost a Tom Swifty, there

"fairness" is an irrelevant, elite preoccupation. it's dog-eat-dog, survival of the fittest, every man for himself out there, just like it says in the four gospels (which stuck up, dirty liberals disdain)

I'm kind of taken aback that America actually has white supremacists in Congress.

https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/840980755236999169?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

My hunch is that Steve King plays peek-a-boo with his white supremacist ideas, and covers his eyes whenever it is inconvenient to see them. Then, if he can't see them, they must not be there.

not a recent development iirc

yeah but that is esp. blatant. fuuuuck this guy and anybody who votes for him.

Hey, let's just give him a chance!

tbf congress has been home to vocal white supremacists for the vast majority of its history

https://vine.co/v/iJbUWJaEmhX

Maybe he's Ted's understudy? Crossed with Heaven's Gate cultist.

xxpost Yeah, I was gonna say. We're just in an era where more of the white supremacists feel comfortable espousing their viewpoints in mixed company. While undeniably horrifying, it's also kinda refreshing to see that villains aren't pretending to be anything else these days.

I dug this of general explanation of GOP epistemological issues:

http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/3/10/14871696/scott-pruitt-climate-denial

sign me up! real america can go fly a kite!

https://newrepublic.com/article/140948/bluexit-blue-states-exit-trump-red-america

i like a good sad liberal rant.

i laughed...

"Not even the good people of Canada should have to stomach a mass migration of moping American liberals mumbling, “Live locally … make art.”

cillizza to cnn!

*farts*

Always misread his name as Clitzilla.

We're just in an era where more of the white supremacists feel comfortable espousing their viewpoints in mixed company. While undeniably horrifying, it's also kinda refreshing to see that villains aren't pretending to be anything else these days.

I totally disagree with this actually. Whatever a representative of the US government is willing to stand up and say in public automatically becomes an acceptable way to talk. I don't think it's bad for racists to understand they're supposed to be ashamed of being racists.

I totally agree with your last point, but I don't think your point and mine are mutually exclusive. It'll become more acceptable to people who are already inclined in that direction, but when rhetoric and policies become more overtly racist the opposition becomes more vehement. This shit's always been there, but it's easier to pretend that it isn't when it's couched in euphemism.

My hunch is that Steve King plays peek-a-boo with his white supremacist ideas, and covers his eyes whenever it is inconvenient to see them. Then, if he can't see them, they must not be there.

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 12 March 2017 19:59 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Convenient to have the 'eyehole malfunction' as a ready excuse you'd imagine