The U.S. Supreme Court

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lol malkin and her "legal sources" http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/01/obamas-choices-gird-your-loins/

erudite e-scholar (harbl), Friday, 1 May 2009 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay so for a trifecta we need one more old-line GOP-affiliated government person to make a decision that causes most everyone to go WTF with a last name that starts with S and ends with 'er'

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 May 2009 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

-It is also unclear that a Justice Kagan would be an adequately independent check on executive excesses. She has argued in favor of greatly enhanced presidential control over the bureaucracy, which is concerning in light of President Obama’s unprecedented centralization of power in the White House.

o_O

WmC, Friday, 1 May 2009 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Anything to keep themselves happy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 May 2009 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link

ok lololololol at Kagan on the Supreme Court

the freakish wonder of nature that is "Beat Me" (HI DERE), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:04 (fifteen years ago) link

JUSTICE HI DERE

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 May 2009 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, I have heard from RELIABLE SOURCES that it's something she desperately wants, but I'm categorically opposed to that for the exact same reason I was categorically opposed to Harriet Miers; you should have served as a judge if you're going to be on the Supreme Court.

the freakish wonder of nature that is "Beat Me" (HI DERE), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:07 (fifteen years ago) link

. . .or at least argued a case in front of the Supreme Court

Mr. Que, Friday, 1 May 2009 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link

As Legal Times reported in January, the selection of experienced appellate litigators for the position of solicitor general is a relatively recent phenomenon that parallels specialization at the Court generally. Past solicitors general who had not argued before the Court until after their selection include Robert Bork, Wade McCree, and Kenneth Starr.

Mr. Que, Friday, 1 May 2009 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i meant for someone who is old and has cancer and people expect to retire

neither cancer nor age nor the possibility of retirement necessarily make someone weak of mind.

loaded forbear (gabbneb), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link

you should have served as a judge if you're going to be on the Supreme Court

there are lots of smart people, lawyers included, who disagree

loaded forbear (gabbneb), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

wow i didn't know thanks xp

erudite e-scholar (harbl), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

don't assume for a second this is going to be status quo OR a move to the lib side

Dr Morbius, Friday, 1 May 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link

You can't assume anything about Supreme Court justices. Look at Souter himself.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

there are lots of smart people, lawyers included, who disagree

Which is fine. I still have my opinion.

the freakish wonder of nature that is "Beat Me" (HI DERE), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think Douglas had experience as a judge.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Is Souter really that liberal? Or just liberal in terms of the composition of this particular court?

Alex in SF, Friday, 1 May 2009 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

The latter. Stevens isn't a liberal either.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

In that NYT magazine profile of Stevens a couple of years ago, he got miffed when he was called a liberal.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Souter is not that liberal for a gay justice.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 1 May 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh you went there etc.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 May 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

well, not every man can fill his robe etc.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 1 May 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

basically, the "liberal" side has been intellectually vacant since Brennan retired.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

most gay guys would rather live in rural NH than DC

loaded forbear (gabbneb), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

There's more bears in DC though.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 May 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

not esp friendly bears, in my experience. and otters w/ cologne.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 1 May 2009 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

if barry wants to start a civil war, then sure why not.

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

he'll get to it right after he holds somebody accountable for torture

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

that would be awesome, not only a woman but a gay???

erudite e-scholar (harbl), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

not only a gay but a WOMAN

Batsman (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah so not gonna happen
but i would like leah ward sears--not only a woman but a black or vice versa

erudite e-scholar (harbl), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Lisa Coleman for Supreme Court Justice. The movement begins HERE.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link

not a gay, not yet a woman

the hardest thugz the softest hugz (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link

justice queen latifah

erudite e-scholar (harbl), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link

she can rule in my jurisdiction

Here Comes the Hardzinger (gabbneb), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link

It's really more important to have the justice that can make the best argument for gay rights than to have a justice that is gay. If a non-gay justice supports gay rights but makes better constitutional arguments for gay rights, that's the better choice.

eggy mule (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean Scalia isn't good for the right because he's conservative, he's good for the right because he can make conservative arguments that have at least a superficial appearance of soundness, sureness and clarity with regard to the Constitution.

eggy mule (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Plus he's gay

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

eggy mule (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link

umm I don't know how well "gay" and "conservative" equate - the value of having an underrepresented minority on the court seems clear

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link

id say conservatives are pretty gay

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

umm I don't know how well "gay" and "conservative" equate - the value of having an underrepresented minority on the court seems clear

Look at how great Clarence Thomas has been!

the freakish wonder of nature that is "Beat Me" (HI DERE), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Thomas was an inspired choice, in purely political terms. As a justice he is, of course, a joke in very poor taste, but a joke who votes exactly as he was intended to vote. Given the ridicule he invites on himself and so obviously grimly endures, it is a wonder that he doesn't go on a killing spree.

Aimless, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

What kind of ridicule does he endure?

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm reading Supreme Conflict at the moment, and I've underestimated Thomas' influence on the court, especially on Scalia, whom he's been accused of aping (when the evidence shows that Thomas swayed Scalia in the early days).

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm sure every lawyer in the SCOTUS bar has a million jokes about him, he's ridiculed in the press all the time for not asking questions during oral argument and for having an RV and just being a total weirdo, plus he's considered the poorest writer on the court.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

he's ridiculed in the press all the time for not asking questions during oral argument and for having an RV and just being a total weirdo

Rehnquist, Roberts, and Ginsburg all say he asks sharp questions in conference. He's a weirdo, sure (and a really angry one too), but I'm not going so far as to call him an embarrassment or hack because I don't agree with his jurisprudence.

I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

“I have to admit,” he said, “that I’m one of those people that still thinks the dishwasher is a miracle. What a device! And I have to admit that because I think that way, I like to load it. I like to look in and see how the dishes were magically cleaned.”

erudite e-scholar (harbl), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

closing thread. Go here:

U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Nino Edition

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 12:33 (eight years ago) link


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