Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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Doesn't the article call him a Ukrainian businessman? Nobody called him a Russian diplomat. Anyway, people connected to Trump and Russia and or Ukraine dying of natural causes all over the place.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 13:35 (seven years ago) link

they were all on the grassy knoll

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 13:38 (seven years ago) link

What's the conspiracy theory here - Cohen's brother's father-in-law knows the Ukrainian MP who suggested a peace plan to Cohen and, despite Ukraine, Russia and the US all rejecting the proposal, the MP denying he gave it to Cohen and Cohen denying he passed anything on to Trump, Oronov needed to be silenced - by giving him terminal cancer months ago?

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 13:47 (seven years ago) link

There are a LOT of people connected to Trump and Russia and or Ukraine ;)

Frederik B, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 13:48 (seven years ago) link

Ukraine, Ikraine, we all kraine.

may all your memes be dank (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link

im grateful for sharivari itt

marcos, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:07 (seven years ago) link

And tbf Russian men have a really low life expectancy. Because of all the cigarettes and vodka and political assassinations.

For more than 80 years now, we—the residents of what some people like to call Blue America, but which I prefer to think of as the United States of We Pay Our Own Damn Way—have shelled out far more in federal tax monies than we took in. We have funded massive infrastructure projects in your rural counties, subsidized your schools and your power plants and your nursing homes, sent you entire industries, and simultaneously absorbed the most destitute, unskilled, and oppressed portions of your populations, white and black alike.

that bluexit article is fucking vile and tremendously stupid, that person should be beaten.

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:36 (seven years ago) link

yeah here's the thing the schools are still not doing great, nor are the nursing homes

also agriculture wasn't "sent" anywhere unless you're using an insanely long historical view

mh 😏, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:39 (seven years ago) link

So, Trump makes bombshell BS claim that Obama tapped his phones. Doubles down and demands an investigation. Congress calls him on his bluff, and requests​ any proof related to the wiretap, if it exists. Justice department responds by ... requesting a delay. How weird is that?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link

it's not weird if you've grown up with money and never had a boss besides daddy. from that perspective, consequences are literally unthinkable

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:49 (seven years ago) link

what i still can't get over is how weird it was that james comey made so much noise about hillary nine days before the election, even while michael flynn was a paid turkish lobbyist and roger stone was tweeting guccifer, among 911 other impossible to imagine even five years ago shenanigans that were going down

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link

yeah "weird"

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link

james comey trying to get into that "history's greatest monster" competition

mh 😏, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link

IMHO Comey is behind all the deaths you listed - he lined up Oronov as the fall guy for the doomed "peace plan" because he already knew his prognosis - and ShariVari is a CI, too
I have a newsletter

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:58 (seven years ago) link

911 probably not the best random number to use there, lol

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link

qualmsleys posts are an inside job

art, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link

IMHO Comey is behind all the deaths you listed

ultimate single bullet theory

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:07 (seven years ago) link

i am wayne tracker

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:09 (seven years ago) link

wayne tracker is spartacus

may all your memes be dank (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link

Been a lot of great pseudonyms in politics lately. Wayne Tracker, John Barron, Carlos Danger ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:14 (seven years ago) link

guccifer also p good imo, not endorsing etc

mark s, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:22 (seven years ago) link

was thinking about that last night, couldn't really come up w a way to stop it tbh. reverse it once he's out of office, maybe, but ugh.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link

i) whether some or all of the functions of an agency, a component, or a program are appropriate for the Federal Government or would be better left to State or local governments or to the private sector through free enterprise;

Goodbye SNAP and WIC.

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:37 (seven years ago) link

wow, i hadn't heard of the EO until now. how is this not headline news? or is just that new?

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link

it's such a fine feeling to be on the leading edge of terrible news

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

I saw it last night and it was issued yesterday - since its immediate effects aren't entirely clear it's probably getting buried. Obviously has the potential for a lot of bad shit. I'm not entirely clear on how Congress figures into that. I mean if they fund a program in the budget, the President can't unilaterally say that a department won't implement it.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link

In developing the proposed plan described in subsection (c) of this section, the Director shall consult with the head of each agency and, consistent with applicable law, with persons or entities outside the Federal Government with relevant expertise in organizational structure and management.

let me go ahead and fix that

In developing the proposed plan described in subsection (c) of this section, the Director shall consult with the head of each agency, but mostly with people from the Heritage Foundation, ALEC, and whoever is on tv that night

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link

xpost

I'm not entirely clear on how Congress figures into that. I mean if they fund a program in the budget, the President can't unilaterally say that a department won't implement it.

it does say that "The proposed plan shall include recommendations for any legislation or administrative measures necessary to achieve the proposed reorganization."

but yeah, they can't just shut down an agency without congressional approval.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link

dems should be making hay of this even on apolitical "doesn't this sound like hell" grounds? like imagine you got a new boss at work and he requires everybody to stop what they're doing for weeks and explain why, yes, it's necessary to do cook the burgers the way you've been doing, and enumerate alternative means of cooking and flipping them and explain why each would not be preferable to the currents system and then you have to have a series of meetings with his dumbshit business school friends who've all skimmed a few issues of food, beverage and hospitality biweekly and have bold new ideas on the burger-flipping method trends that are going to revolutionize the industry and AUGHHHHHHH and actually underneath all this is his desire to see you fail completely at burger-flipping so he can fire the entire department and turn the whole place into a room full of malfunctioning vending machines - "we're really going to save on food cost around here!"

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

sorry, got lost in a bad flashback of the one self-styled 'chef' at my second holiday inn job who took me aside in the dry storage room to lay out his vision for retooling the restaurant into a high-concept destination burger joint, tentatively titled (now, i'm asking everybody for their feedback on this) ... Buns.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link

That's awesome.

Anyway https://newrepublic.com/article/141272/trump-russia-story-not-diversion

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

government should be run like a business!

gr8080, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

Heer is otm that responsible, well-informed, factual reporting of the Trump camp's supposed ties to Russia are a good and important thing but idk if anyone thinks that is what Gessen, Taibbi, etc are objecting to. I don't know who would object to it other than Trump partisans. The problem has been that so little of the reporting actually meets that mark.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link

Hamilton (Ontario) church volunteers denied entry to U.S. so they wouldn't 'steal American jobs': http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/hamilton-church-volunteers-denied-entry-to-u-s-so-they-wouldn-t-steal-american-jobs-1.4022969

Girl Guides of Canada cancelling trips to the U.S., citing travel concerns: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/girl-guides-of-canada-cancelling-trips-to-the-u-s-citing-travel-concerns-1.4022985

Sooner or later the tourism industry is going to start grousing about the impact of all this shit. Let's see whether avarice or racism is a bigger driver of Trumpism.

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link

Nice interview with Rick Perlstein about his piece in the Baffler and what happens when you write off people who don't vote for you as "dumb"(and thus how fortunate you don't have to expend effort on persuading):

https://soundcloud.com/user-253233419/experts-baffledepisode-1-professional-snobbery

International House of Hot Takes (kingfish), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link

Sooner or later the tourism industry is going to start grousing about the impact of all this shit. Let's see whether avarice or racism is a bigger driver of Trumpism.

I'm amazed this hasn't happened already.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link

is his name really Jeet Heer? I mean, really?

evol j, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link

ah nevermind i should have done two seconds of googling first, i thought he was a white dude, nm.

evol j, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

when 70% of the eligible population doesn't vote, I have a hard time believing that convincing opposing ideologues is both a moral obligation and a more effective vote-getting strategy than expanding the voting base to include people who don't usually vote. To wit: The GOP spends absolutely zero time appealing to me and my demo's needs or interests. Instead, they focus on shrinking the electorate to secure greater power for their loyal voting base. Being an inclusive coalition rather than an exclusionary cabal, the Dems can't really do this because none of the various minorities that make up the coalition are actually big enough in their own right to pull off such a strategy - but historically when they expand the electorate (whether by expanding the voting franchise - to women, or african americans, or organizing Irish/Italian immigrants, etc. - or having a "cool" candidate that attracts the youth vote like Obama), liberals have benefited and their legislative priorities advanced.

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:29 (seven years ago) link

ie, we can probably peel some votes off in the margins ("Independents" lol) but fighting over the same 5% is not a winning strategy. Figuring out how to get more ppl who *do* agree w liberal priorities to actually vote is the better strategy.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:30 (seven years ago) link

Jeet Heer? would be a better name for Doc Casino's boss' burger place than Buns.

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

Xps

I'm probably going to a university recruitment conference in LA in June (assuming Immigration let me in) and it's going to be interesting to see how badly institutions think Trump and the perceived increase in physical danger are going to hit the multi-billion Dollar study travel sector. Idk how much Trump cares but the for-profit colleges he is so fond of are going to be hit hard if things do go through the floor.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

@SenJohnMcCain
My @washingtonpost op-ed w/ @LindseyGrahamSC today: "Why we need more forces to end the stalemate in #Afghanistan"

@ggreenwald
This war has been raging for 15 1/2 years. The US has escalated multiple times under 2 Presidents. This war-loving duo wants more that.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link

To wit: The GOP spends absolutely zero time appealing to me and my demo's needs or interests

OTM. Fuck the GOP.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link

JiC / Οὖτις OTM

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link

Instead, they focus on shrinking the electorate to secure greater power for their loyal voting base. Being an inclusive coalition rather than an exclusionary cabal, the Dems can't really do this because none of the various minorities that make up the coalition are actually big enough in their own right to pull off such a strategy - but historically when they expand the electorate (whether by expanding the voting franchise - to women, or african americans, or organizing Irish/Italian immigrants, etc. - or having a "cool" candidate that attracts the youth vote like Obama), liberals have benefited and their legislative priorities advanced.

otm

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link

what i still can't get over is how weird it was that james comey made so much noise about hillary nine days before the election, even while michael flynn was a paid turkish lobbyist and roger stone was tweeting guccifer, among 911 other impossible to imagine even five years ago shenanigans that were going down

yea as strange as this was at the time it's like five times stranger now

frogbs, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:04 (seven years ago) link


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