Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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his calling the EO "a watered town version of the first order" doesn't seem legally prudent

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:29 (seven years ago) link

ha -- I just said that to my friend.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:30 (seven years ago) link

xxxxxpost Dems are known doom and gloomers, we're known for it. but tbf in the early going we had that "CBP defying court order blocking EO" incident that was never satisfactorily answered that I suspect raised everybody's hackles (including mine) for a bit.

my fear has always been less that though and more that he will incite unstable followers to do unspeakable things with his populist rabblerousing.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:30 (seven years ago) link

and considering the rise in hate crimes, p valid fear

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:31 (seven years ago) link

fake crimes

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:32 (seven years ago) link

sad

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:35 (seven years ago) link

low energy polls

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:35 (seven years ago) link

Oh lol, between these two breakdowns and Wilders coming up short, tonight has been a pretty good night. Drinking the last of my christmas beers.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

I'm as relieved as anyone, but really, this is what everyone said to begin with. Trump would be a horrible president, he has no experience, no self-control, can't seem to tell truth from false, clearly he will be a disaster so the GOP will stop him.

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:45 (seven years ago) link

At this rate they might have to!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:49 (seven years ago) link

who will then save us from the GOP

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:49 (seven years ago) link

That phase 2 of the phase 3 plan, you see.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:51 (seven years ago) link

yup https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/842171883315466241

an extremely clever headfake on his part to cut his lawyers off at the knees

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link

yeah but liberal encroachment

xpost

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:55 (seven years ago) link

Is he talking about health care at all?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 March 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link

At some point he is going to have a Ceaesescu moment, isn't he?

Frederik B, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:00 (seven years ago) link

yeah he didn't mention the AHCA or ryan once, and said several times "we're going to get people in a room" and seemed to be conceding a lot of ground

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:01 (seven years ago) link

And indeed while he was ranting:

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/842175184303976448

.@RepMarkMeadows, chair of House Freedom Caucus, says he has the votes to block the House GOP Leadership health care bill, per @tomlobianco

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:03 (seven years ago) link

we're going to get people in a room"

"and throw a grenade in there, believe me!"

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:04 (seven years ago) link

lol

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:04 (seven years ago) link

he'll probably issue an executive order banning cancer

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:05 (seven years ago) link

Separately, I'm sure Kellyanne would like to ask you to get your pre-orders in, as patriotic Americans:

https://mobile.twitter.com/betsy_klein/status/842113566979330052

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:08 (seven years ago) link

...idgi, is that about his penis?

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:11 (seven years ago) link

I think the wisest thing Trump could do right now is impose extreme vetting for every single person arriving in or returning to America - that's only fair - and demand the ACA be 100% repealed with no replacement. Also, he should insist that coal be the single, exclusive fuel in America - America's fuel - and that every thing should run on coal, especially cars. I think if he did all those things that would solve all his problems.

All his problems, of course, stemming from the fundamental problem of being president.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:24 (seven years ago) link

lol at Trump calling this "judicial overreach". it's almost like he doesn't know what judges actually do.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:27 (seven years ago) link

Almost?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:35 (seven years ago) link

He and his sister probably dont talk much

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:36 (seven years ago) link

"i thought they just modeled robes and banged stuff"

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:36 (seven years ago) link

Trump more accustomed to judicial reach around.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:37 (seven years ago) link

See, this all goes back to Trump's historic assholery. If he could even make a pretense of being reasonable, polite, gracious, accommodating, empathetic, I truly believe he could have pushed through some sort of travel ban with a lot of support. But because he has to be an asshole in the most asshole way possible, he will never get more people on his side. Which means he will never get more people on his side.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:42 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, in multitasking congress:

Tensions between congressional Republicans and the Trump administration are rising over Russia, as lawmakers probing alleged ties between the president’s team and the Kremlin accused officials of trying to block their efforts.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa), whose committee is one of several where investigations are fully underway, accused Justice Department officials Wednesday of lying when they promised to share information about ongoing department probes with lawmakers conducting oversight.

“It doesn’t matter whether you have a Republican or Democrat president, every time they come up here for their nomination hearing . . . I ask them, ‘Are you going to answer phone calls and our letters, and are you going to give us the documents we want?’ And every time we get a real positive ‘yes’! And then they end up being liars!” Grassley said, screaming into the phone during an interview with The Washington Post. “It’s not if they’re treating us differently than another committee. It’s if they’re responding at all.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/is-there-an-investigationgraham-demands-answers-from-fbi-on-russia/2017/03/15/9d98c330-097a-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:46 (seven years ago) link

Yeah the courts opposing it isn't the concern, it's whether the people implementing it are given orders, explicit or otherwise, to ignore the courts.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:47 (seven years ago) link

Dershowitz otm

Wednesday night’s ruling could also impact the Supreme Court confirmation process for Judge Neil Gorsuch — one of the most smooth-sailing initiatives launched by the administration — because Democrats may now have a greater incentive to stall his appointment.

“He can’t change it again,” Dershowitz said in an interview. “That would be embarrassing. He’s going to seek an expedited appeal from the Ninth Circuit, and the Democrats will try to slow down the Gorsuch nomination so he won’t be there in time to break a four-four tie.”

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:54 (seven years ago) link

Altho I'm not so sure it would be a tie at this point

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:55 (seven years ago) link

Esp when Prez ManBaby keeps flapping his gums

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 01:56 (seven years ago) link

I'm not so sure it would be a tie at this point

Chief Justice Roberts seems to have retained a shred of self-respect that he still wishes to preserve. One may hope this would be operative when this case arrives.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:02 (seven years ago) link

why would the SCOTUS even hear it?

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:04 (seven years ago) link

at this point, I hope Trump never dies, just forced to sit there at 173 years old reliving the "nelsonlaugh.jpg" that was his Presidency over and over, Ludovico-stylez in prison

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:05 (seven years ago) link

I'm surprised there's no pro-ban litigation trying to claw its way to the fifth circuit but I guess you would need to prove damages to do so

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:07 (seven years ago) link

"our anti-Muslim conventions have lost money as a result"

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:08 (seven years ago) link

Sort of funny that Tucker Carlson interviewed him at what appears to be a car dealership

Treeship, Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:09 (seven years ago) link

I'm just amazed that Tucker Carlson still exists in 2017. woulda thought he'd been deprogrammed with the other obsolete units from 2004

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:12 (seven years ago) link

He's apparently the resident populist rabble rouser at fox news now. Weird world.

Treeship, Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link

He's apparently the resident populist rabble rouser at fox news now. Weird world.

Treeship, Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link

Sorry for the double

Treeship, Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link

lol, highlights of this Fox News poll: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2017/03/15/fox-news-poll-315/

difference between "strongly approve" and "strongly disapprove" = -15%

-3 disapproval of his handling of terrorism

-15 disapproval of his handling of immigration

-20 disapproval of his handling of health care

-22 on Russia

Dems take a beating re: Congress but Republicans viewed 6 points worse

Paul Ryan -10% favorability rating

Elizabeth Warren +8% (19% voted "never heard of", if you want a clue of the types of people who vote in this shit)

Wikileaks -15% favorability rating

McConnell -24% favorability rating (that is actually UP from last year)

-11% approval of Executive Order banning immigrants (2nd one)

Supreme court approval +27%

-20% approval for Republican health care act (40% strongly oppose to 17% strongly favoring)

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:21 (seven years ago) link

also his approval rating is +10% with men, -25% with women!

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:23 (seven years ago) link


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