Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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So he got the wiretap idea from the NYT even tho the NYT are fake news and nothing they say is true, except for when it is?

...I need to lie down, my head hurts.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 16 March 2017 05:04 (seven years ago) link

i read that and to me the exchange was like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddWC_aAK7hk

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 05:14 (seven years ago) link

So that speech was hot for about two or three hours after the speech was made, because they came up with other things, having to do with other people, that they shouldn't have been able to do and they shouldn't have done, but they did it. And you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Second president in a row to be a Jay-Z fan?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 March 2017 08:38 (seven years ago) link

hahaha

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 11:52 (seven years ago) link

Maryland judge also temporarily blocks order

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 12:04 (seven years ago) link

That stone thing needs some garbage memes like "life comes at you fast...like Russian hit man" or "in Putins rossia, life comes slow but his hit men- they come at you crazy fast!"

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:42 (seven years ago) link

Sometimes I think about a scene from HBO's Rome, just after the assassination of Caesar.

Cassius: We have all the Senate behind us, and all the men of quality.
Antony: And I have an angry mob, that will roast and eat your "men of quality" in the ashes of the Senate House.

Now, I don't know if Trump or Trumpians watched that series, but I think they would approve of this exchange and incorporate it into their fantasy of how to transform American governance.

The judges rule against us? Well, let us storm the courthouses and bay for their blood.

sane in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link

how likely is this draconian budget to pass?

marcos, Thursday, 16 March 2017 14:54 (seven years ago) link

McCain said already it won't clear the senate fwiw.

also couple stories now circulating abt gorka's membership/ties to nazi org: https://www.buzzfeed.com/talalansari/sebastian-gorka-report?utm_term=.oda2K1PP1q#.il20prOOrJ

art, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:01 (seven years ago) link

re McCain statements http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/324281-mccain-trump-budget-cant-pass-senate

art, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link

1. Boost the military above all else
2. Demonize the independent media, make up your own "facts" (anti-intellectualism)
3. Isolationist worldview, Economic nationalism
4. Demonize "the other" (Foreigners, Illegals, Muslims, Liberals...)
5. Consolidate power (undermine Congress and "so called" Judges)

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:03 (seven years ago) link

6. ???
7. PROFIT!

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:04 (seven years ago) link

Likeliness to pass is a pre-Trumpian question, fool. Only idiots take his proposals/orders/support for policies literally; they forget he is the master dealmaker who always begins negotiating at an extreme, trusting that the final position will be someplace else. This is the prism through which he sees the world.

So he puts out a budget eliminating (for example) life support for fluffy puppies who have cancer. All the usual suspects cry out, "Trump hates fluffy cute widdle puppies!" Whereas to him, it was never about the puppies, but about the rush of the art of the deal. After negotiation it turns out that he really only wanted to kill, say, 75% of the puppies. You fools took him literally when it was really just a starting negotiating position.

Ditto, ban all the muslims. Maybe it's only most of them. Let's talk, let's deal.

Ditto, eliminating the EPA, NEA, NEH, PBS, and pretty much any non-Defense government department. It's just a proposal! People will get in a room, see, and there will be a Deal Made. Maybe only half of those agencies are actually eliminated.

Ditto, the health care bill. He doesn't care about the details of the GOP proposal because to him, it's just a starting point for the awesomely winning dealmaking that is gonna happen. Believe me. It'll be beautiful.

Ugh. This mode of thinking is getting normal and it just makes me so ill.

sane in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:11 (seven years ago) link

yes yes but we gotta point out that, cuts to State notwithstanding, this is a REPUBLICAN budget. They've dreamed of cutting the arts and EPA for years, at least since Reagan.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:15 (seven years ago) link

that budget won't pass either chamber, and generally speaking president's budgets never do - Congress writes the bills.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link

it is v much a "starting point" though

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link

I would love to leave some "trickle down" economics on Reagan's grave

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link

So he puts out a budget eliminating (for example) life support for fluffy puppies who have cancer. All the usual suspects cry out

this is just normal politicking and law-making stuff though.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link

so the new health bill passed committee this morning by a narrow margin of 19-17, 3 GOP defections

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:19 (seven years ago) link

so no surprises there

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link

altho damn that is close

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link

yeah I mean - they had an 8 member deficit (22-14) and came that close. can't imagine this thing will do well in either branch of Congress without significant revision

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link

i also wonder how many Republican members that didn't defect are going to do the old trick of "vote yes to get it through committee, then vote no during Congressional vote"

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link

Lord Alfred is right: Republicans have always wanted to kill arts funding. Yet they haven't, completely, despite plenty of periods of full control. And Dr. C is right that it is normal to have proposals that people howl about, and it all gets worked out somehow.

Is it just the level of "OMG CAN HE DO THAT?!?!?!" shock that is new?

Maybe because the answer has been Yes a bit too often lately?

sane in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link

Front page of FT today has a graph showing uninsured Americans since '87 and then projections into 2025 under Obamacare and Whocares, and the ultimate projection of the latter is actually higher than the number just before ACA went into effect.

Milkwalker's World (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link

About that budget:

https://twitter.com/GlennThrush/status/842381184877359104

Senior aide to Hill GOP leadership on Trump/budget: 'its a joke...we've learned not to listen to anything he says or does. We're on our own'

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:34 (seven years ago) link

pobrecito

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link

Even if it's totally Congress's job to set the budget, we still get to blame the President for everything that happens or doesn't happen, right? Just going based on the last 8 years.

sane in the membrane (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:45 (seven years ago) link

Also apparently he's going to try and do a rally once every two weeks. Which if it results in half-empty arenas time and again would be entertaining in this sense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ6JxAgmxXg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:48 (seven years ago) link

Last 230 years IIRC

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link

Of all the batshit things about Trump, the endless rallies are some of the batshittiest.

You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link

the amount of free time he appears to have is incredible

not even my mate ross king sniffed out this hot gossip (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link

it's getting pretty strange b/c nearly all his policy ideas are idiotic or in the process of failing, so what exactly is he gonna campaign on? if it's 2018 and there's no replacement of Obamacare, no Muslim shutdown, and no border wall, are people gonna keep hooting and hollering for him? it's so fucking weird for the President of the United States to be doing this.

frogbs, Thursday, 16 March 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

hooting and hollering is his main appeal fwiw

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:00 (seven years ago) link

like, literally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJeugIJFXas

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link

Well, there's always locking up the former president and his former campaign opponent. That's something.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:01 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KILVCs_bhY

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:02 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/842378765334396929

Apparently he's going to do these every couple of weeks. That bubble he's keen to escape is just "a work environment where a small fraction of the people you encounter judge you on your merits and accomplishments"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link

amazing how the comments and the content of that video are essentially identical

frogbs, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link

so what exactly is he gonna campaign on?

the dem fear is that he'll do a big infrastructure bill and run on having created a bunch of jobs

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link

the more he yaps literally the less effective he is, so keep it up loser

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

the dem fear is that he'll do a big infrastructure bill

this won't happen

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

mostly cuz it's abundantly clear he can't write a bill at this point. and if you think GOP congress is gonna come up w some awesome infrastructure bill on its own I have a bridge to sell you

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link

(bridge financed entirely by tax breaks for developers btw)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:07 (seven years ago) link

They did a hilarious run down of how limited even a number like $1 trillion is when it comes to "infrastructure." Like, each stop of the NYC subway essentially costs $1 billion. Rebuilding half of the nation's airports would cost $1 trillion. Etc. But of course, Trump wants to fix and rebuild everything. "Everything" being this fallback when he knows nothing.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:07 (seven years ago) link

On NPR this morning.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:07 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7DDQVvWsAAh9Jq.jpg:large

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/paul-ryan-wiretap-response/index.html

House Speaker Paul Ryan said Thursday that "no such wiretap existed," citing intelligence reports to House leaders after President Donald Trump accused then-President Barack Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower last year.
"The intelligence committees, in their continuing, widening, ongoing investigations of all things Russia, got to the bottom -- at least so far with respect to our intelligence community -- that no such wiretap existed," Ryan said in response to a question from CNN at a news conference.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:11 (seven years ago) link

Investigate Paul Ryan! Lyin' Ryan!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 March 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link


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