Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

i will lead the nexus between far left macho posturing + homosexuality.

reading that the WH budget director is proposing the meals on wheels and afterschool meals because the "don't deliver results" is just infuriating me

I read this thread regularly, almost never comment because what do I have to say really, but man, this shit's really getting to me today

claims obama spied via GCHQ / british intel (??)

lol I quoted the Fox interview that dropped this tidbit upthread

which I'm sure is the source of Spicer's claim

i will lead the nexus between far left macho posturing + homosexuality.

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, March 16, 2017

and stick it in their plexus?

the hilariously sad thing about it is that it's a conclusion based on the *absence* of evidence - ie, if Obama ordered surveillance there would be "fingerprints" left behind at the NSA, FBI, CIA, etc. but since there *aren't* any than it must have been done through the British intelligence agency that has access to US intel. It's total "working backwards from assumed conclusion"-style logic.

Meals on Wheels brings people together, dammit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7EW5oHVwAA_nGA.jpg

lol sorry hueg

at this point I kinda want the stupid wall to be built so we can stand all these fuckers up against it and fill them with bullets.

xxxp trump is right, it's the facts that are wrong. so simple how could i have missed this before

Vadim Rizov‏
@vrizov
I would like it more if the end of the world wasn't so fucking stupid

https://twitter.com/vrizov/status/842414066522021888

"Tough cookies. Tough cookies."

GOP went with ACA repeal first to cut money from the budget, so they could give it away in tax cuts. It's to give away the most money to the rich while avoiding filibusters.

Meantime, Steve Deace still Deacin'

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/03/if-bruce-wayne-could-learn-it-so-too-can-conservatives

With just about every show I do or column I write, Bruce Wayne’s query to Alfred is looming somewhere in the back of my mind.

Indeacin' Proposals

a talk-radio host named Lars Larson

as an Oregonian I can confirm that this guy is the worst

the hilariously sad thing about it is that it's a conclusion based on the *absence* of evidence - ie, if Obama ordered surveillance there would be "fingerprints" left behind at the NSA, FBI, CIA, etc. but since there *aren't* any than it must have been done through the British intelligence agency that has access to US intel. It's total "working backwards from assumed conclusion"-style logic.

― Οὖτις, Thursday, March 16, 2017 5:09 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's conspiracy theory logic. evidence is evidence, and lack of evidence is also evidence

wtf are we going to do if trump keeps insisting on shit that didn't happen.

the media should just post articles titled "Nuh Uh" and move on

That video from today of Jim Acosta, with staggering patience, attempting to get a complete, multi-sentence or even multi-clause argument past Commander Spicer... hoo boy. This guy is like Ron Ziegler compulsively downing life-threatening doses of stimulants.

I suspect the GCHQ stuff comes back to Louise Mensch again. She has claimed in the past that they were tapping the phones of the Trump camp (though later deleted the tweets) and maintains that British intelligence was actively aiding the Steele dossier with intercept evidence. One moronic conspiracy theory feeding another. xps

wtf are we going to do if trump keeps insisting on shit that didn't happen.

re-elect him, presumably

So this Gorka guy is an actual Nazi?

one of the things about trump lying like he does is that he is an old guy in ostensibly poor health and if he were to decline mentally would anyone be able to tell?

Take the boy who cried wolf analogy even further. What if he claims he is having a heart attack and no one believes him? That would be a tragedy.

re gorka - still not firmly established but he has a poor answer to "are you a member of a nazi organization" which is usually a pretty easy one to clear up for non-nazis ime

It would be easier to not worry about the rampant lying from the top levels of the executive branch if the legislative was making a consistent effort to address it. Cool that they're not giving him any material on the "wiretap" nonsense, but where's the Senate investigation of the "millions of illegal voters"? That one's just been allowed to seep out into the background - you'll be hearing people cite those millions twenty years from now as "proof" of whatever the fuck bullshit they want to spin at the time.

yep

Congress doesn't investigate vote fraud is why

xp tbh that would happen regardless of how thoroughly it gets disproven/addressed, that's the really poisonous and fucked up thing about these garbage people

the only people that could push back on that were the states, and they did

xp

so much of the lying is built into the whole poisonous 'the more money have, the smarter / more talented you are' ideology america voted in with reagan. we're just seeing it mutate into a stronger form with this inarticulate silver spoon doofus in the white house

agreed

we really need to raise taxes on the upper class and use that money to fund the hell out of education, or we're gonna stay stuck in this loop

yeah there's no investigation into voter fraud because they know the answer is 'nothing to see here folks'

the usa has taken higher education funding to the most advanced level of fuckedness worldwide probably. something's gotta give. but, there are so many things you can say that about now.

social security for all + medicare for all + free state college tuition, all paid for with upper class taxes, will inject some much needed equality into this bullshit system

It is grimly hilarious to me the extent to which our PM rolled out the red carpet to Trump only for the White House to accuse British intelligence of bugging the President.

Congress can hold hearings to investigate whatever the fuck it wants IIRC - but yeah obviously the GOP have an interest in letting Trump's toxic nonsense go unchecked on that front. Amazing they're bothering to debunk his wiretapping BS.

I guess, but monitoring elections is not a standard congressional oversight perogative (unlike national security), although yeah you are right the GOP has definite political motivations for letting that particular lie slide

It wouldn't be 'monitoring elections' though - just fact-finding on a provocative claim made by the president, and one that if it were anything approaching true would be one of the biggest news stories of the century so far. call it The Hearings To Investigate The Alarming Concerns Raised By President Trump About The Soundness And Legality Of The 2016 Presidential Election, or whatever. if they can have five thousand fact-finding hearings and commissions on benghazi you'd think they could carve out a week for "millions of people are voting illegally, rendering our democratic process a total sham." obviously the only thing a competent committee would reveal is that nothing of the kind happened and the president made it up out of nothing, so they're not bothering.

right - what I'm saying is that the reason, for example, the Russia stuff immediately got traction is because there are standing committees w very territorial committee members on them whose focus is this exact kind of thing

voter fraud would require some kind of special select committee or something

and McConnell would have to greenlight it and work with Schumer to staff it which duh yeah that is not happening, waste of resources, not in their interests etc.

okay true. but it's not THAT hard to bang together a special committee - congresspeople do it all the time, usually to enhance their own standing by telling the folks back home that they chaired a special investigation of the pine weasel overpopulation crisis or whatever. i get that we're not really disagreeing on this, just want to point out that not doing so marks a particular kind of subtle heel-dragging, easy to miss 'cause it's the absence of doing something. but yeah you're right about why we heard statements on the "wiretaps" and not the "voter fraud."

special investigation of the pine weasel overpopulation crisis or whatever

Save Ghostwood Estates

can't stop watching this. american hero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQoh70ErZiU

^^^I am pretty sure that's the senator who was caught with another young flamboyant* right-wing senator on a boys' trip to Argentina and Brazil using taxpayers' money. The other senator had to pay back a lot of the funds, not sure what happened to this Smith guy (besides being a complete idiot).

*NOTE: I have no issue with people's sexual preferences, except so many of these poor guys are in the Republican party who legislate against LGBT rights, it's tragic.

Yeah it's him, but his hair is much fuller now than it was a couple years ago:
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/254183-smith-schock-ties-garner-scrutiny

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/tillerson-says-all-options-are-on-the-table-when-it-comes-to-north-korea/2017/03/17/e6b3e64e-0a83-11e7-bd19-fd3afa0f7e2a_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar&tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.40f1fbdeb547