Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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Conservatives have always beaten liberals at the "influential talking heads" game simply because they have no interest in being valued by experts and academics, have no problem doubling down in the face of mounting criticism, craft memorable, tough-as-nails on-air personas, and stay on message no matter how stupid it is.

Which is not to white-knight liberals by any means and suggest we're all "above" this sort of behavior...but liberal talking heads are too soft for the general public, do weak things like apologizing and admitting fault, and are more likely to evolve their message over time. the types of people who are political radio junkies tend to break more for the Limbaugh style of broadcasting than for the Maddow style, which they view as the "pussification of the airwaves" or w/e

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 March 2017 03:18 (seven years ago) link

and whenever we have a liberal talking head that bends on some of those premises (a Michael Moore type), we eat him internally

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 March 2017 03:19 (seven years ago) link

I don't think we need to "beat them at their own game" but I think we can at least try to offer them a better kind of populism, one that targets the rich not immigrants. Right now in left wing discourse the "white working class" are treated as exotic specimens and I think they pick up on that and it turns them off.

Treeship, Sunday, 19 March 2017 03:21 (seven years ago) link

I think we need to beat them, with very big sticks. the biggest sticks.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 March 2017 03:22 (seven years ago) link

Right now in left wing discourse the "white working class" are treated as exotic specimens and I think they pick up on that and it turns them off.

maybe Br00ce should run for Pres....

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 March 2017 03:23 (seven years ago) link

Stone appears to be getting jumpy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/18/us/politics/roger-stone-senate-trump-russia-documents.html

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 19 March 2017 04:32 (seven years ago) link

Roger Stone
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the British town councillor, see Roger Stone (councillor).
Roger Stone Jr.
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Born Roger Jason Stone Jr.[1]
August 27, 1952 (age 64)
Norwalk, Connecticut, U.S.
Education George Washington University
Occupation Republican political consulting
Political party Republican (before 2012)
Libertarian (2012–present)
Spouse(s) Ann Stone (1974–1990)
Nydia Bertran (1992–present)
Children 2
Website Official website
Stone Zone
Stone Cold Truth
Roger Jason Stone Jr. (born August 27, 1952) is a c-u-n-t.

The New York Times has described Stone as a "renowned infighter"[2] and a "seasoned practitioner of hard-edged politics".[3] During the 2004 presidential campaign, CBS News described Stone as a "veteran Republican strategist".[4] Stone has promoted a number of falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[5][6][7][8][9][10][11]

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 March 2017 04:53 (seven years ago) link

It's almost impressive how incompetent they all are. From head to toe, you might say.

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Sunday, 19 March 2017 15:53 (seven years ago) link

his right foot is in a cast i believe

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 19 March 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

not like a plaster cast, but it looks medical

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 19 March 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link

yeah that looks like a cast.

new noise, Sunday, 19 March 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

kicked his iron cat

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 March 2017 16:00 (seven years ago) link

I only ever see people wearing those immobilizer boots on the outside of pants.

If he wasn't such a shit Press Secretary he could have made a joke about it with reporters and we'd all already know the reason

So the fact that we have to speculate as to whether his mismatched feet are clinical or just dumb is actually symptomatic of incompetence, again.

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Sunday, 19 March 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link

Plus he stands like he's trying not to piss himself.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 19 March 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link

A cast or a jack boot? Har har

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Sunday, 19 March 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

lol that guy's foot is hurt and he has to wear a cast so that it heals, what an incompetent idiot

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 19 March 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link

What did Adam know and when did he forget it

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

the origin of the Bruneauist

by the light of the burning Citroën, Sunday, 19 March 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link

Lol wow

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 March 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link

Jesus. What do we think is driving that most of all? TrumpCare pissing off portions of the GOP electorate? Wiretap nonsense revealing for the n-thousandth time that he's a lying pathetic clown? Background sense that something something Russia? Muslim Ban 2.0?

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 19 March 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link

trumpcare is probably the only one of those that might actually be chipping away at support amongst those that were at some point cautiously enthusiastic about him

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 19 March 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link

Trumpcare would be my guess, too. There are plenty of poor rural folks who got pulled into Medicaid under the ACA. They now know they're going to be kicked off and have no medical care if Trumpcare passes. There would have been a hell of a lot more of them, too, if so many Republican governors and legislatures hadn't refused Medicaid expansion in their states.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 19 March 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link

i'm still clinging to the impossible dream that backlash to trumpcare will galvanize support for single-payer

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 19 March 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link

just you wait!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 March 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link

Should we poll or wager when approval hits 25%? Will it happen before Christmas, or before he gets out of office?

International House of Hot Takes (kingfish), Sunday, 19 March 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

yeah this is 100% Trumpcare.

frogbs, Sunday, 19 March 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

while I'm sympathetic to many of the general sentiments in that, some of those people sound delusional

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 19 March 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link

"some"

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 March 2017 21:56 (seven years ago) link

well yeah -- I'm thinking specifically of the person that said nothing about trumps track record indicated he was racist etc

jason waterfalls (gbx), Sunday, 19 March 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link

What would convince you not to vote for him again?

"Generally hard to say. Extreme corruption would do it."

Second person in the same conversation: "I don't care if he's corrupt. Y'all voted for Hillary, and she was the most corrupt candidate of all time."

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Sunday, 19 March 2017 22:31 (seven years ago) link

I'm speechless

neva missa lost, wednesday nights on abc (voodoo chili), Sunday, 19 March 2017 22:31 (seven years ago) link

I'm with Erik Loomis: "The genre of 'let’s talk to idiotic white voters who support Trump even though he will decimate their lives' is already more stale than bread baked on November 8."

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:33 (seven years ago) link

Sam Altman...

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:46 (seven years ago) link

Hard to take a guy who wears shoes like that too srsly.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 20 March 2017 00:02 (seven years ago) link

And I mean, when a story STARTS like this:

The political appointee charged with keeping watch over Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt and his aides has offered unsolicited advice so often that after just four weeks on the job, Pruitt has shut him out of many staff meetings, according to two senior administration officials.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 March 2017 00:06 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/ChuckGrassley/status/843615390118952960

, Monday, 20 March 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

bigger than watergate? you don't say

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/how-deep-does-the-trump-russia-story-go-901612099679

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 20 March 2017 02:37 (seven years ago) link

The Trump admin is so gross and corrupt and compromised that it seems to be doing worse every week, with or without Russia's help.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 March 2017 03:21 (seven years ago) link

The "every agency needs a political operative watching over it to make sure it doesn't stray from the path the leader has set forth" is not even Russsian. It is actually Soviet.

takin care of bismuth (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 20 March 2017 12:52 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7XMKvzWwAAV9R5.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 20 March 2017 12:55 (seven years ago) link

U.S. families with great legs.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 March 2017 12:56 (seven years ago) link

Maybe Glenn can go on Tucker again

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intelligencer/2016/12/29/29-glenn-greenwald-tucker-carlson.w710.h473.jpg

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 March 2017 13:12 (seven years ago) link

you know something bad is going to come out because trump spent the morning freaking out on twitter about how democrats made everything up

akm, Monday, 20 March 2017 13:17 (seven years ago) link

he's still at it

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 20 March 2017 13:19 (seven years ago) link

Keep an eye on Comey's testimony, due to start in about forty minutes.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 March 2017 13:23 (seven years ago) link

yea I'm guessing Comey isn't gonna be such a Republican hero after today

frogbs, Monday, 20 March 2017 13:23 (seven years ago) link


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