Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

did anyone take in the full hearing today? i'm waiting for marcy wheeler's writeups. sad to say my eyes glaze over with this intel stuff

wtf is up with the times lately? the public editor got suckered by another patented right-wing smear campaign and chided one of their reporters for a twitter joke about bow wow. and they just ran an op-ed by complete moron -- to call her "unhinged" would be to suggest she was at any time attached to any recognizable frame -- louise mensch. because she's set herself up as the a-1 russia paranoid. it's fucked up.

(i've been skipping this thread, no doubt you've talked about this shit)

Hi, goole!

I don't read the Times anymore tbh

the public editor is actually a block of wood. the times has previous w louise mensch and never reveals her background afacit (i.e. tory mp and professional weirdo)

add murdoch fluffer

I read the Times and Post but not op eds and columnists.

I saw a hunk of of the hearing. Or rather, I saw enough of it to know that many of the same points were made again and again. I think the big takeaway:

1) Yes, there is an ongoing FBI investigation into Russian interference and people in Trump's circle.

2) After a whole day of this, the only way any of this Russian stuff could be dismissed by Trump Inc. is in the most literal way possible, i.e. "yes, they are investigating, but there is no proof yet." Even the GOP goobers grousing about leaks acknowledged all this other Russian stuff is also important.

3) If the point was to get all of this on the public record, mission accomplished, because hearing all the same stuff we've been talking about for months laid out in a public and official forum was I think an important step. That and concessions from both sides that this will go on for months, so no worry it will get swept aside.

So Ivanka's getting a West Wing office and wants a security clearance.

https://t.co/VlapFsfpZP

but NOT a government employee.. kushner must not be getting the babysitting job done properly.

Eh, isn't this the same arrangement Hillary had?

And she wasn't even a feminist fighter for women's rights, like Ivanka is.

Meantime:

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/843955312927358976

bill and donny might both be creeps with no impulse control but at least bill could do his fuckin job amirite

Who wants another "you stupid voter, you deserve everything coming!" rant?

http://dontgetmestarted-lindasharp.typepad.com/dont_get_me_started_with_/2017/03/what-will-it-take.html

I can see why theres a therapeutic use of just screaming a lot, but some of these get real close to the idea of "only good things should come to Good People" which is some rightwing shit.

hi alfred!

oh and fuck frank rich.

mensch has said that the russians killed breitbart. bipartisan credibility!

I liked the Frank Rich piece. Nothing he said wasn't true

This is interesting too:

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/843936365373018112
Admin official says White House was not informed DOJ gave Comey clearance to discuss Russia investigation today.

That piece was reactionary garbage. More excuses for the Democrats' failure to offer a counternarrative to right wing populism for people struggling under neoliberalism.

That is interesting. If the administration is trying to set up an excuse to oust Comey, I don't think that would look good for them.

I didn't see any excuses in it. He takes more craps on the Dems and the Clinton camp than he does on poor white people. Maybe we read different nymag.coms

The whole framing of who "deserves" sympathy reeks of the demographic hyperscrutinizing that sunk Clinton plus it's morally gross

I can't find our conspiracism thread but here's something:

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/hot-for-truther-inside-the-website-where-conspiracy-theorists-find-love

The whole framing of who "deserves" sympathy reeks of the demographic hyperscrutinizing that sunk Clinton plus it's morally gross

Yeah you definitely read a different article. Or didn't actually read it, which is my guess

too busy struggling under neoliberalism, tbf.

You guys, winning elections and enacting policies is all meaningless if we can't get these white people in Louisiana to vote in their own interest

some of these get real close to the idea of "only good things should come to Good People" which is some rightwing shit.

yeah that shit makes me uncomfortable too. not saying we need to be a big tent but geez.

Warms my heart!

https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/843964642280034305

Healthy number of boos for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell as he comes out to address Trump crowd in his home state.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/324902-freedom-caucus-chair-negotiations-over-on-obamacare-repeal-bill-wont-pass

this subplot is something, and im not exactly sure i understand what version of the bill the freedom caucus would accept but this infighting is good

Oh, we should have the biggest tent money can buy. And if you can't stand being in the same tent with the blacks and the gays then good, more room for us.

Fuck these people. Come on.

no, Ned, he misheard it: they were going WOO WOO WOO like at a college game

Might as well be.

"These people" xp

I blame the toxic Republican Party and media apparatus for preying on people who felt disenfranchised, channeling their anger toward racist scapegoats. Liberals need to learn to talk to these people, not cede vast swaths of America to hatemongering vultures.

Hmm...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article139695453.html

Federal investigators are examining whether far-right news sites played any role last year in a Russian cyber operation that dramatically widened the reach of news stories — some fictional — that favored Donald Trump’s presidential bid, two people familiar with the inquiry say.

Operatives for Russia appear to have strategically timed the computer commands, known as “bots,” to blitz social media with links to the pro-Trump stories at times when the billionaire businessman was on the defensive in his race against Democrat Hillary Clinton, these sources said.

The bots’ end products were largely millions of Twitter and Facebook posts carrying links to stories on conservative internet sites such as Breitbart News and InfoWars, as well as on the Kremlin-backed RT News and Sputnik News, the sources said. Some of the stories were false or mixed fact and fiction, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the bot attacks are part of an FBI-led investigation into a multifaceted Russian operation to influence last year’s elections.

FAKE FAKE NEWS

Treeship how much time have you spent in the southeastern US?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bflkeWVTNk0

So anyone who uh, ins't a Democrat in here or will I be purged for heresy?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/world/europe/paul-manafort-ukraine-allegations-trump.html

this guy again

list your particulars and the board will review your non-purge application xp

Plenty of non-Dems, few non-libs, you will probably be purged for heresy regardless of affiliation cos it's ILX

Is any regular here (openly) a conservative?

dandydonweiner had his moments

the last big shot Capital D Democrat "I worked for Obama appointees, you waste of space" got permanently banned

dandydonweiner is still around! he said a nice thing about me recently

Oh yeah, the gabbinator. Good times.

there was that jackass from wooden wand who we drove out. dandydonweiner is a rational and intelligent man in comparison

i have long thought that if someone waltzed onto ILX with conservative viewpoints and the ability to coherently back them up, they'd be an instant ILX celeb. it would be like gabbneb * 10. and i just want to pause for a second to let that image linger. there would probably be a few calls for purging but this thread would be a lot better

the last actual out-and-out conservative i remember on ilx was roger adultery -- anyone remember him?

Dom Passantino was the last trve conservative here imho.

^^^"that jackass from wooden wand who we drove out" xp

there was some dude named Stuart, maybe? like ten years ago.

*treads lightly*