Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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This is interesting too:

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/843936365373018112
Admin official says White House was not informed DOJ gave Comey clearance to discuss Russia investigation today.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 20 March 2017 23:13 (seven years ago) link

That piece was reactionary garbage. More excuses for the Democrats' failure to offer a counternarrative to right wing populism for people struggling under neoliberalism.

Treeship, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:14 (seven years ago) link

That is interesting. If the administration is trying to set up an excuse to oust Comey, I don't think that would look good for them.

Treeship, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link

I didn't see any excuses in it. He takes more craps on the Dems and the Clinton camp than he does on poor white people. Maybe we read different nymag.coms

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 March 2017 23:18 (seven years ago) link

The whole framing of who "deserves" sympathy reeks of the demographic hyperscrutinizing that sunk Clinton plus it's morally gross

Treeship, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link

I can't find our conspiracism thread but here's something:

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/hot-for-truther-inside-the-website-where-conspiracy-theorists-find-love

International House of Hot Takes (kingfish), Monday, 20 March 2017 23:21 (seven years ago) link

The whole framing of who "deserves" sympathy reeks of the demographic hyperscrutinizing that sunk Clinton plus it's morally gross

Yeah you definitely read a different article. Or didn't actually read it, which is my guess

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 March 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link

too busy struggling under neoliberalism, tbf.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link

You guys, winning elections and enacting policies is all meaningless if we can't get these white people in Louisiana to vote in their own interest

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 March 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link

some of these get real close to the idea of "only good things should come to Good People" which is some rightwing shit.

yeah that shit makes me uncomfortable too. not saying we need to be a big tent but geez.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 March 2017 23:31 (seven years ago) link

Warms my heart!

https://twitter.com/ryanobles/status/843964642280034305

Healthy number of boos for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell as he comes out to address Trump crowd in his home state.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:35 (seven years ago) link

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/324902-freedom-caucus-chair-negotiations-over-on-obamacare-repeal-bill-wont-pass

this subplot is something, and im not exactly sure i understand what version of the bill the freedom caucus would accept but this infighting is good

art, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link

Oh, we should have the biggest tent money can buy. And if you can't stand being in the same tent with the blacks and the gays then good, more room for us.

Fuck these people. Come on.

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 March 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link

no, Ned, he misheard it: they were going WOO WOO WOO like at a college game

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 March 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link

Might as well be.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:38 (seven years ago) link

"These people" xp

I blame the toxic Republican Party and media apparatus for preying on people who felt disenfranchised, channeling their anger toward racist scapegoats. Liberals need to learn to talk to these people, not cede vast swaths of America to hatemongering vultures.

Treeship, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:41 (seven years ago) link

Hmm...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article139695453.html

Federal investigators are examining whether far-right news sites played any role last year in a Russian cyber operation that dramatically widened the reach of news stories — some fictional — that favored Donald Trump’s presidential bid, two people familiar with the inquiry say.

Operatives for Russia appear to have strategically timed the computer commands, known as “bots,” to blitz social media with links to the pro-Trump stories at times when the billionaire businessman was on the defensive in his race against Democrat Hillary Clinton, these sources said.

The bots’ end products were largely millions of Twitter and Facebook posts carrying links to stories on conservative internet sites such as Breitbart News and InfoWars, as well as on the Kremlin-backed RT News and Sputnik News, the sources said. Some of the stories were false or mixed fact and fiction, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the bot attacks are part of an FBI-led investigation into a multifaceted Russian operation to influence last year’s elections.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 20 March 2017 23:51 (seven years ago) link

FAKE FAKE NEWS

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 March 2017 23:54 (seven years ago) link

Treeship how much time have you spent in the southeastern US?

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:07 (seven years ago) link

So anyone who uh, ins't a Democrat in here or will I be purged for heresy?

orientmammal, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:11 (seven years ago) link

list your particulars and the board will review your non-purge application xp

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:12 (seven years ago) link

Plenty of non-Dems, few non-libs, you will probably be purged for heresy regardless of affiliation cos it's ILX

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:12 (seven years ago) link

Is any regular here (openly) a conservative?

Treeship, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link

dandydonweiner had his moments

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:15 (seven years ago) link

the last big shot Capital D Democrat "I worked for Obama appointees, you waste of space" got permanently banned

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:15 (seven years ago) link

dandydonweiner is still around! he said a nice thing about me recently

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link

Oh yeah, the gabbinator. Good times.

Treeship, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link

there was that jackass from wooden wand who we drove out. dandydonweiner is a rational and intelligent man in comparison

akm, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link

i have long thought that if someone waltzed onto ILX with conservative viewpoints and the ability to coherently back them up, they'd be an instant ILX celeb. it would be like gabbneb * 10. and i just want to pause for a second to let that image linger. there would probably be a few calls for purging but this thread would be a lot better

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link

the last actual out-and-out conservative i remember on ilx was roger adultery -- anyone remember him?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:19 (seven years ago) link

Dom Passantino was the last trve conservative here imho.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:20 (seven years ago) link

^^^"that jackass from wooden wand who we drove out" xp

there was some dude named Stuart, maybe? like ten years ago.

nomar, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:21 (seven years ago) link

*treads lightly*

orientmammal, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:21 (seven years ago) link

i have long thought that if someone waltzed onto ILX with conservative viewpoints and the ability to coherently back them up, they'd be an instant ILX celeb. it would be like gabbneb * 10. and i just want to pause for a second to let that image linger. there would probably be a few calls for purging but this thread would be a lot better

― Karl Malone, Monday, March 20, 2017

In 2017 2007 1987, you couldn't coherently back up conservative policy unless you backed up RomneyCare -- er, Obamacare.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:22 (seven years ago) link

Nakh and I once made up a person like that -- congenial lawyer from north carolina who found ilx via the john fahey thread -- but decided not to create a sock out of him.

Treeship, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link

Damn Treesh, missed opportunity.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:24 (seven years ago) link

https://mlkshk-ada.kxcdn.com/r/192N3

nomar, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:25 (seven years ago) link

Collusion that requires investigating

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:25 (seven years ago) link

Lol I'd be dragged out of this place by the roots if I was found to be behind a project like that xp

Treeship, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:27 (seven years ago) link

As I recall, there was briefly some poster who called himself Jay Bateman who pitched us a spiel about alphas and betas that might fairly be called alt-right, but he had such hot scorn heaped upon his head that he didn't last more than three days.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:36 (seven years ago) link

not being able to keep your job on Fox News is fucking profound

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:37 (seven years ago) link

(to the article Ned posted)

People familiar with the situation who could speak only on the condition of anonymity said Napolitano is not expected to be on Fox News Channel any time in the near future. Napolitano was not available for comment.

SFTGFOP (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

yeah this is another good sign imo

sleeve, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:39 (seven years ago) link

IMPORTANT DISCOVERY:

https://twitter.com/cbenjaminrucker/status/843962317360500736

Moodles, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:56 (seven years ago) link

Meantime in the overall 'well well' category.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2017/03/20/russian-billionaire-family-trump-ties-ongoing/#5e2b873469b3

In an exclusive interview with FORBES, Emin Agalarov—a Russian pop singer, real estate mogul and son of one of the country’s richest people—described an ongoing relationship with the Trump family, including post-election contact with the president himself.

Among Agalarov’s most striking claims: that he and his billionaire developer father, Aras, had plans to build a Trump Tower in Russia that would now likely be under construction had Trump not run for office; that he has maintained contact with the Trump family since the election, and has exchanged messages with Donald Trump Jr. as recently as January; and that President Trump himself sent a handwritten note to the Agalarovs in November after they congratulated him on his victory.

“Now that he ran and was elected, he does not forget his friends,” Agalarov says.

...

On Monday morning, following this article's initial publication, a spokesperson for the Trump Organization replied to an earlier request for comment. "The Trump Organization does not, and has never had, any properties in Russia, and the press’ fascination with this narrative is both misleading and fabricated," she said.

FORBES' own investigation corroborates the claim that the Trumps never closed a deal in Russia. Nonetheless, Agalarov’s remarks seem to contrast the president’s repeated insistence that he holds no ties there, and come at a time of increased scrutiny for his administration on the subject.

...

Agalarov knows that maintaining that good favor will require continued contact with Trump's inner circle. To that end, he says he exchanged messages with Donald Jr. around the time of the inauguration, but was told no deals could be pursued until the company’s leadership structure had further settled into place. Donald Trump Sr.’s new role and the ever-growing firestorm surrounding his ties to Russia are unlikely to help matters either.

But Agalarov is almost certainly used to additional political scrutiny. His ex-wife, with whom he split in 2015, is the daughter of Azerbaijan’s president. As it happens, Trump once had a project there, too, though his company cancelled the transaction in December 2016 after development stalled. Agalarov says he played no role in arranging that deal four years prior, when Trump signed on.

No matter the current hiatus, should the Trumps ultimately seek to resume their dealings with the Agalarov clan, they will find a partner eager to collaborate. “Anything Trump related I would be interested to pursue,” Agalarov says. “I think today the Trump brand is stronger all over the world. And him being the president; I mean, it’s a big brand now.”

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:58 (seven years ago) link

the biggest brand

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link

Operatives for Russia appear to have strategically timed the computer commands, known as “bots,” to blitz social media with links to the pro-Trump stories at times when the billionaire businessman was on the defensive in his race against Democrat Hillary Clinton, these sources said.

Funny how little Drudge Report gets mentioned in all of this. He certainly was central to the key Brietbart / HeatSt / ZeroHedge / etcetc articles that spun the campaign. Bill Clinton's black son, emails, and so on.

who even are those other cats (Eazy), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 01:04 (seven years ago) link


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