Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

It's the end of "Russia" as a story

lol c'mon bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8AULZ2le28

this is obviously what Trump was talking about when he said he would be "vindicated" though, even tho it has zero to do with what he actually claimed in his tweetstorm. It's retroactive ass-covering, and p sloppy at that.

This shit has been happening for a year and a half. Some insane, disqualifying thing about Trump comes up and he shuts it down by deflection. Not even savvy deflection. Crude, stupid, baseless accusations that somehow catch on and become conventional wisdom.

xpost true and I think Treezy is way off about Russia being over as a story as it's already survived with surprising resilience. but we'd be naive to assume some non-critical thinking idiots aren't just looking at the byline and calling it a day.

when I posted the CNN "bill would result in fine for masturbating" story the other day, I could tell who hadn't clicked through to the story prior to reacting. retractions/clarifications/corrections wont' matter. the press needs to get it right the first time now. editorialize the fuck out of this. the byline should be "Nune states Trump data might have been legally collected, does not corroborate Trump claims"

Remember when Sarah Palin said Paul Revere set out to warn the British? And every smart person said "no, you twit, he was warning colonists ABOUT the British?"

And then somebody else dorksplained "Actually, Revere was captured and told the British that armed militias were coming for them." And so like all these mouthbreathing Limbaughian Palinheads were like SARAH WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!!!?

That.

"It concerned me enough to have to notify the President," Nunes said. "It's not fair for him not to know what's in these reports" while the Obama administration does.

did you forget the part about Trump BEING PART OF THE INVESTIGATION?

Well his 'get out' clause appears to be that it's not Russia-related. (Which, I know, but bear with me.)

YMP otm

Schiff ain't pleased.

https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/844647142530732033

None of these dudes is not a total moron, are they

Which, I know, but bear with me

in Russia, you are with bear

Schiff also doing a press conference at the top of the hour.

no doubt he's ecstatic

I was not aware the Obama administration was still a going concern...

I also dont really get how this is news? This is 100% what happened to Flynn. He was on the phone with subject of FISA warrants, his info was minimized but when they went back to review in light of the investigation it got brought into the open.

i was not aware that 2017 was "do whatever the fuck you want to do if you are rich there are no rules" year. OH RIGHT I FORGOT THAT'S EVERY YEAR

lol

Tim Mak‏Verified account @timkmak 38m38 minutes ago
If by Obama you mean others & by October you mean other months & by wiretapping you mean incidental collection then yes Trump's vindicated

I am not following any of this stuff this week. Neither is anyone besides political junkies.

@DougHenwood
Dear Dems: what is the endgame of the Russia stuff?

a more just society built on the ashes of a corrupt and discredited political leadership?

for starters?

Unless something unexpected emerges (and I suppose it *could*), the Russia stuff is not a Trump Killer. Honestly, it's not.

i'll take what i can get. 220, 221, whatever it takes.

no but it is a Trump slower-downer

xp

i thought we all knew years ago that everyone in the fucking country is subject to "incidental data collection"

lol word

adam khan in his byzantine twitter-woven redoubt says "the russian stuff" shouldn't obscure "the china stuff" -https://twitter.com/khanoisseur/status/844651198372229121

i agree, and i agree w/henwood that the battleground needs to be political instead of just investigative, but the two aren't mutually exclusive

yes, hence Shakey saying 'so what?' about Snowden and demanding his prosecution for treason

also he has a James Clapper tattoo

xp

@tinyrevolution
My unpopular take: both Trump/Russia & Clinton/emails are molehills blown up into giant mountains by partisanship & the media

I called him a traitor and an idiot (and I don't see how either are disputable, tbh), but I don't actually care if he gets prosecuted or not. just to be clear.

Trump/Russia & Clinton/emails are molehills blown up into giant mountains

false equivalency

@tinyrevolution
My unpopular take: both Trump/Russia & Clinton/emails are molehills blown up into giant mountains by partisanship & the media

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 22, 2017

and my unpopular take is that thanks in part to these investigations Trump's bargaining posture on the Hill has dwindled to nothing such that tomorrow's ACA bill might be doomed. You don't have to care, but I don't understand what's so hard about this strategy except as a way to justify a it's-beyond-me languor.

Yeah the AHCA seems to be frittering away to nothing right now.

ISO link to Schiff presser

Schiff is impressive.

I'm sure I'm biased, but he makes Gowdy look like Gomer Pyle and Nunes like a third grade donkey boy.

The Dems has also been hammering that Gorsuch shouldn't be confirmed while the guy who nominated him is under investigation for possible treason. It helps the Dems defend being obstructionist.

Also, the way things are going, I half expect Manafort and Stone to have directly collaborated with the Russians.

I'm sure I'm biased, but he makes Gowdy look like Gomer Pyle and Nunes like a third grade donkey boy.

otm. I'm sure there are rightwing goobers who see Gowdy as some sort of firebreathing fighter for justice, but yeah I'm with you. I like Schiff, happy to have him be the Dem face of this investigation.

"Chairman will need to decide if he is chairman of investigation or surrogate of the white house because he cannot do both."

I know he's mostly not today's main topic but I just have to post this, sorry not sorry --
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/stone.jpg

Roger Stone is like Roger Sterling on quaaludes

well, I guess there goes the house intelligence committee's investigation....

man Joe Manchin is useless. Can he swallow coal dust and die

if Nunes is gonna be such a flagrant Trump stooge, Dems may has well boycott it

what did Manchin do now

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half expect Manafort and Stone to have directly collaborated with the Russians.

You forgot Flynn. Also, YA THINK?

Flynn was busy trying to cut Turkey in on the deal.

The house intelligence committees investigation going down in flames would just intensify the calls for a truly independent prosecutor. It's not a particularly good thing for Trump. Or at least really short-sighted.

Unless something unexpected emerges (and I suppose it *could*), the Russia stuff is not a Trump Killer. Honestly, it's not.

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 22, 2017 1:49 PM (thirty-one minutes ago)

well, of course. if nothing is found, it won't harm trump. whereas if something is found, it might! this should be self-evident.

the apathetic-nihilist "both Trump/Russia & Clinton/emails are molehills" argument is complete bullshit though. we know clinton/emails(/benghazi) was a "molehill" because it was aggressively investigated for years. in comparison, we know next to nothing about trump/russia, and the investigation has barely begun.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?425842-1/adam-schiff-calls-devin-nunes-surveillance-revelations-concerning

BTW the Supreme Court unanimously overturned a Neil Gorsuch decision *during his hearings today*. Someone asked him about it in the hearing -- apparently trying to elicit whether that might indicate he's out of step with the Court -- and his answer was basically ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What was the case?

@DougHenwood
Dear Dems: what is the endgame of the Russia stuff?

― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:47 PM (forty-eight minutes ago)

what was the "endgame" of watergate? sheesh.