Bob Dylan: Triplicate - 3 more discs of Standards

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I look forward to the oral history behind the making of that celebration.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2017 19:33 (seven years ago) link

I want an oral history of the time Dylan wore that fake Rabbi beard.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2017 19:33 (seven years ago) link

I wonder what it was like to review this Dylan interview for the first time.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 March 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link

i sent a link to that interview to Greil M. and he was very appreciative. so, double thanks. he was very excited about it.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

(like me, he probably doesn't read Pitchfork, so, we might have missed it....)

scott seward, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

um when did he start actually singing again

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

came out of the stadows a while back

j., Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

huh. I had no idea

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link

his voice sounds *much* better after quitting smoking

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link

(altho if I want grizzled gargling Bob I'll always have "Christmas in the Heart")

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:14 (seven years ago) link

i still can't believe you can smoke for a million years and get your voice back like that! pretty incredible.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link

There's hope for Tom Waits yet...

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link

21st century dylan voice was a bit much for me. would totally buy an album of originals if he sang like he does on the standards stuff.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

yeah I couldn't get past it either (Xmas album excepted). I wouldn't say his voice is "back", I mean he's not 25 or even 45 anymore, but it def sounds better.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

Tom Waits claims his voice got worse when he quit smoking years ago.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

Is Dylan's voice better or worse singing standards than Sinatra at about the same age?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link

LOL

What does a drummer coming into your band need to know? What should he avoid?

No one comes into my band.

sleeve, Thursday, 23 March 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

when did he start actually singing again

my fave question and answer from the interview:

Q&A with Bill Flanagan
MAR 22, 2017
Exclusive to bobdylan.com

This is your third album of standards in a row – Shadows in the Night was a big surprise and a really nice one. Fallen Angels was a sweet encore. Now you really upped the ante. Did you feel after the first two, you had unfinished business?

I did when I realized there was more to it than I thought, that both of those records together only were part of the picture, so we went ahead and did these.

Why did you decide to release three discs of music at once?

It’s better that they come out at the same time because thematically they are interconnected, one is the sequel to the other and each one resolves the previous one.

Each disc is 32 minutes long – you could have put it all on 2 CDs. Is there something about the 10 song, 32 minute length that appeals to you?

Sure, it’s the number of completion. It’s a lucky number, and it’s symbolic of light. As far as the 32 minutes, that’s about the limit to the number of minutes on a long playing record where the sound is most powerful, 15 minutes to a side. My records were always overloaded on both sides. Too many minutes to be recorded or mastered properly. My songs were too long and didn’t fit the audio format of an LP. The sound was thin and you would have to turn your record player up to nine or ten to hear it well. So these CDs to me represent the LPs that I should have been making.

What’s the challenge of singing with a live horn section?

No challenge, it’s better than overdubbing them.

You like to be spontaneous in the studio, but here you’re working with tight arrangements and charts. Did that require a new way of thinking for you?

It did at first but then I got used to it. There’s enough of my personality written into the lyrics so that I could just focus on the melodies within the arrangements. As a vocalist you’re restricted within definite harmonic patterns. But you have more control within those patterns than you would if there were no boundaries whatsoever, it actually takes less thought, hardly any thinking. So I guess you could call that a new way of thinking.

At any point in the recording did you say to the musicians, “Look, we have to change this on the fly – just follow me…?”

No, that never happened. If I did that the song would fall apart, nobody would be able to follow me. Improvising would disrupt the song. You can’t go off track.

Are you concerned about what Bob Dylan fans think about these standards?

These songs are meant for the man on the street, the common man, the everyday person. Maybe that is a Bob Dylan fan, maybe not, I don’t know.

Has performing these songs taught you anything you didn’t know from listening to them?

I had some idea of where they stood, but I hadn’t realized how much of the essence of life is in them – the human condition, how perfectly the lyrics and melodies are intertwined, how relevant to everyday life they are, how non-materialistic.

Up to the sixties, these songs were everywhere – now they have almost faded away. Do they mean more to you when you hear them now?

They do mean a lot more. These songs are some of the most heartbreaking stuff ever put on record and I wanted to do them justice. Now that I have lived them and lived through them I understand them better. They take you out of that mainstream grind where you’re trapped between differences which might seem different but are essentially the same. Modern music and songs are so institutionalized that you don’t realize it. These songs are cold and clear-sighted, there is a direct realism in them, faith in ordinary life just like in early rock and roll.

It’s hard not to think of World War II when we hear some of these. You were born during the war – do you remember anything about it?

Not much. I was born in Duluth – industrial town, ship yards, ore docks, grain elevators, mainline train yards, switching yards. It’s on the banks of Lake Superior, built on granite rock. Lot of fog horns, sailors, loggers, storms, blizzards. My mom says there were food shortages, food rationing, hardly any gas, electricity cutting off – everything metal in your house you gave to the war effort. It was a dark place, even in the light of day – curfews, gloomy, lonely, all that sort of stuff – we lived there till I was about five, till the end of the war.

Between the Depression and the war, people had to swallow so much pain that songs that might sound overly sentimental to us had tremendous resonance. A line like “as a man who has never paused at wishing wells” – it might sound corny to people who haven’t lived too much. Can you get inside these songs in your 70s in a way you might not have been able to in your 20s and 30s?

Sure, I can get way inside. In my 20s and 30s I hadn’t been anywhere. Since then I’ve been all over the world, I’ve seen oracles and wishing wells. When I was young there were a lot of signs along the way that I couldn’t interpret, they were there and I saw them, but they were mystifying. Now when I look back I can see them for what they were, what they meant. I didn’t understand that then, but I do now. There is no way I could have known it at the time.

When you see footage of yourself performing 40 or 50 years ago, does it seem like a different person? What do you see?

I see Nat King Cole, Nature Boy – a very strange enchanted boy, a terribly sophisticated performer, got a cross section of music in him, already postmodern. That’s a different person than who I am now.

It seems like 20 years after the war ended, all the entertainment was about it – movies, TV shows, novels, everything from South Pacific to Hogan’s Heroes. We assume everyone shares this common vocabulary, but in fact, it’s fading from popular memory. Did you feel an urgency to rescue these songs?

Not anymore than I would try to rescue Beethoven, Brahms, or Mozart. These songs are not hiding behind a wall or at the bottom of the sea, they’re right there out in the open, anyone can find them. They’re truthful. They’re liberating.

You do some great singing here – “When the World Was Young,” “These Foolish Things” – which begs the question, if you can sing like that, why don’t you always sing like that?

Depends what kind of song it is. “When the World Was Young,” “These Foolish Things,” are conversational songs. You don’t want to be spitting the words out in a crude way. That would be unthinkable. The emphasis is different and there is no reason to force the vernacular. “An airline ticket to romantic places” is a contrasting type of phraseology, than, say, “bury my body by the highway side.” The intonation is different, more circumspectual, more internal.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link

oy!!! did not mean to post all of that!

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

just the highlighted bit at the bottom!

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

I never realized before that Tom Wilson is the hidden link between Dylan and Sun Ra.

o. nate, Monday, 27 March 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link

sampler of 10 songs up on spotify

his recovery of his ability to sing (within his limits) is pretty fucking incredible, switch between Triplicate and Tempest and it's pretty amazing

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 31 March 2017 14:16 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Been reading awestruck reviews of Triplicate; this is the best so far (awestruck duh, but not too much for observational interest). He apparently doesn't like the first two as much as I do (esp.Shadows in The Night, though I don't hear either as tentative)---still, will have to give it a listen after all apparently (but geez, that's a lot of standards from BD): http://www.villagevoice.com/music/bob-dylans-book-of-love-thirty-standards-that-map-a-world-sweeter-than-we-will-ever-know-9895560

dow, Friday, 21 April 2017 18:17 (seven years ago) link

record sounds great but I haven't heard the entire thing yet, it is pretty long and seems to drag a bit... have put it on on a couple of late night occasions but then skipped after 20 minutes or smth

what's that Dylan quote about patience... I think he's prompted to talk abt postmodern attention span being very short and says something like it's been that way since the 7" single!

niels, Saturday, 22 April 2017 09:04 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

I truly love this album.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 5 November 2018 01:52 (five years ago) link

I guess I should never be surprised by Dylan, but becoming an great standards singer 15 years after I thought his voice was shot is pretty impressive

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 November 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link


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