Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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exactly

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 02:25 (seven years ago) link

he's the deal maker! The deal's off! Let's buy a truck!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 02:25 (seven years ago) link

America is teh upside down

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 02:26 (seven years ago) link

And they're off:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7oerPBXwAMvt37.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:28 (seven years ago) link

truck moment seems very poignant, i think that image will be around for a long time even after the memes are churned out

marcos, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:31 (seven years ago) link

I just spat my beer out laughing

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 02:43 (seven years ago) link

And Road House reference for the win.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:44 (seven years ago) link

marcos otm

sleeve, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:45 (seven years ago) link

re:budget reconciliation, i think any health care law would also have to pass the byrd rule, which would be hard for single payer to do as it would almost certainly come with long-term deficit increases. I am no legislative expert, so I may be wrong.

Aimless and will otm re how challenging single payer would be to pass, it's weird to talk about it like a foregone conclusion without acknowledging the gigantic amount of work and advocacy that needs to be done for it to pass. Like will said, it's big pharma and insurance, but it's also groups that are seen as less villainous, like doctor's groups and hospital associations.

intheblanks, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:48 (seven years ago) link

Worth noting re Byrd rule that Cornyn just got even more direct about it on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn/status/845083280877785088

FYI: The "Byrd Rule" is actually a law

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/2/644

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 02:54 (seven years ago) link

Sean Hannity is sad!

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/845094446928683009

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link

dying @ that NYP cover

frogbs, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:02 (seven years ago) link

Christ Hannity agef 20 yrs overnight

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:16 (seven years ago) link

Aged

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:17 (seven years ago) link

I still don't really get how this is going to work. They're going to take out the essential benefits so the far-right people will vote for it, but they'll get the moderates to vote for it by promising, don't worry, the Senate is going to put the essential benefits back in, and the far-right people are... not going to hear about this promise?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 24 March 2017 03:19 (seven years ago) link

yeah but magic!!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 03:22 (seven years ago) link

Let me remind you about ... "phase 2"

And the mystical "phase 3"

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:24 (seven years ago) link

It isnt going to work

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:25 (seven years ago) link

Some more no votes coming out. Things'll be in flux still.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:28 (seven years ago) link

RE healthcare I dont understand why y'all arent overturning cars on fire in the street, this system is beyond belief. I mean it literally isnt understandable to me.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 24 March 2017 03:30 (seven years ago) link

Too busy shooting each other

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:32 (seven years ago) link

we are quite literally one of the dumbest countries on the planet

nomar, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:33 (seven years ago) link

we are cowards. we are conditioned to worship bullies from a young age, and attack anyone who speaks out against that

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 24 March 2017 03:37 (seven years ago) link

some tweets from Ben Wikler of Move On tonight that gave me anxiety:

Friends, let me puncture your premature triumphalism. Here's how the GOP wins against the Affordable Care Act. 1/

First, the Freedom Caucus folds. Possibly underway already. Bill passes House. https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/845102655261331457 2/

Next, it gets to Senate, and McConnell immediately replaces it with a totally different bill that he's been quietly crafting for weeks. 3/

What I'm hearing is, doesn't matter what the House passes—the Senate will never consider the House bill. It'll consider its own version. 4/

Once a bill squeaks through the Senate, it goes back to the House—straight to a vote, no amendments. Freedom Caucus folds again. 5/

That's not only a plausible path to victory, it's (I hear) the game plan. It's what comes next if the AHCA passes the House tomorrow. 6/

None of this is guaranteed, of course. But it's why the House bill moving right doesn't kill its prospects in the Senate. 7/

The ONLY thing that matters tomorrow is whether *something* passes the House. No matter how misbegotten. If it passes, TrumpCare lives. 8/

That's why the stakes are so high. Don't bet against desperate people who'll do anything to win. Don't bet—fight. It's all on the line. 9/9

Dan S, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:37 (seven years ago) link

Aimless and will otm re how challenging single payer would be to pass, it's weird to talk about it like a foregone conclusion without acknowledging the gigantic amount of work and advocacy that needs to be done for it to pass

I think part of doing the work is making it seem like a foregone conclusion. Make it the party platform, make it popular, make it obvious.

softie (silby), Friday, 24 March 2017 03:40 (seven years ago) link

my pack of 250 Medicare for All stickers is coming in the mail tomorrow, gonna start sticking 'em places

softie (silby), Friday, 24 March 2017 03:40 (seven years ago) link

ideas that are laying around, etc.

softie (silby), Friday, 24 March 2017 03:41 (seven years ago) link

That sounds nuts to me but he's right about not being complacent (never a winning strategy)

Xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:41 (seven years ago) link

Don't bet—fight.

Good plan. If this passes we should all make ourselves sick on purpose and blow up the system, man.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:41 (seven years ago) link

I'm suspicious of that "McConnell has a different bill all ready to go" part

Xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:42 (seven years ago) link

I guess looking at it again the scenario doesn't seem that likely. I'm just hoping this thing doesn't pass tomorrow

Dan S, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:49 (seven years ago) link

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if it did, but also wouldn't be surprised if it's so wretchedly ugly that those voting for it start looking for their own excuses next week.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 03:54 (seven years ago) link

Whatever McConnell has been "quietly crafting", when compared to the AHCA it is bound to look positively brilliant. The Freedom Caucus "folding" on a bill seems possible, but their whole gig is extreme ideological purity, so the fig leaf will have to be enormous to satisfy them. That's part of the deal with the devil the republicans cut when they gerrymandered rock solid districts and allowed Tea Party candidates to win them.

The FC doesn't need to compromise to stay in office and they know it. Ask Boehner. He knows it, too.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 24 March 2017 03:54 (seven years ago) link

they need to compromise if the koch threat to fund 2018 opponents of FC members who vote for trumpcare is merely a feint. sure that's convoluted but so is the fiscal and overall ethical philosophy of the GOP

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 24 March 2017 04:07 (seven years ago) link

Pretty great Twitter thread here

https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/845109727898091522

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 04:08 (seven years ago) link

lol hot damn

frogbs, Friday, 24 March 2017 04:10 (seven years ago) link

re: complacency, it doesn't really matter a lick how cocky or overconfident any of us get, it doesn't hold any sway over the votes. just how disappointed/elated we feel afterwards.

with that being said, that scenario upthread seems way too House of Cards-esque for me. one reason I quit reading MoveOn years ago.

anything's possible, naturally, so I'm not exactly ready to spike the football yet, but getting extra anxious about it won't help a lick. sleep, wake up, and hopefully this shit will be over and we can point and laugh at the GOP some.

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 04:11 (seven years ago) link

WaPo otm. always knew Nunes was garbage but rarely been as angry as I was yesterday afternoon

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 04:18 (seven years ago) link

omg

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 24 March 2017 07:54 (seven years ago) link

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 24 March 2017 08:42 (seven years ago) link

incredible

physicist and christian lambert dolphin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 March 2017 10:22 (seven years ago) link

good MOURNING!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 10:56 (seven years ago) link

where's the tax returns?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 24 March 2017 11:27 (seven years ago) link

Jean Claude Juncker on Trump in todays FT:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7ri5IXXgAA6k_F.jpg

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 March 2017 11:39 (seven years ago) link

He had Tusk on the stereo and thought it was Rumours

nashwan, Friday, 24 March 2017 11:41 (seven years ago) link

he had me on the phone and thought he was talking to Raymond Tusk from 'House of Cards'

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 24 March 2017 12:07 (seven years ago) link

He thought he was talking to a walrus.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2017 12:11 (seven years ago) link


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