Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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he wants it one way but it's the other way, again

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 March 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link

"by Executive Order, Affordable Care Act is now rebranded Trumpcare. You're welcome"

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link

I mean he might as well.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:41 (seven years ago) link

Obviously it makes Ryan and Trump both look weak and ridiculous

Well, to US. But we were already there. Trumpoids have already decided to spin this as yet another tale of his awesome strength and wisdom, betrayed at the last minute by establishment weaklings and cowards. His only error was trusting that these professionals knew what they were doing. Ah, well, another example of career politicians being unable to live up to the example of His Donaldness.

Or, what Lord Alfred said.

takin care of bismuth (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 24 March 2017 16:42 (seven years ago) link

Trump's approval at -12 this morning. on Rasmussen

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link

strongly approve down to 29%

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link

Trump's presidency is basically a limbo contest at this point

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

Well, to US. But we were already there. Trumpoids have already decided to spin this as yet another tale of his awesome strength and wisdom, betrayed at the last minute by establishment weaklings and cowards. His only error was trusting that these professionals knew what they were doing. Ah, well, another example of career politicians being unable to live up to the example of His Donaldness.

Or, what Lord Alfred said.

Certainly, and we can't handwave that. And yet: W was down to a 27% that still approved of him at the end of his second term, but that didn't budge. Point is, though, that it was 27% -- Trump's equivalent may be louder, but, as Neanderthal just noted, seems like he hits the same numbers when crunch time arrives.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

How are his Russian numbers?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:51 (seven years ago) link

Trumpoids have already decided to spin this as yet another tale of his awesome strength and wisdom, betrayed at the last minute by establishment weaklings and cowards. His only error was trusting that these professionals knew what they were doing. Ah, well, another example of career politicians being unable to live up to the example of His Donaldness.

This is because, as the fence-sitting moderate 'hold yr nose and vote' supporters drift away from the increasingly-obvious insanity, all that's left is the Cult of Trump, who venerate everything that the Great Leader says and does.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Friday, 24 March 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link

xpost -- Bigly.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link

This is all Trump trying to figure out who's willing to follow him off a cliff, isn't it

frogbs, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link

Everyone's fave oppo drop guy Rick Wilson had a tweetstorm just now that, some language aside, probably sums things up:

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/845313114618957824

A key bit:

House Republicans who privately loathe him (and there are a LOT) play the DC game of "My good friend Donald!" and know how to fluff him....They're exhausted and nervous after only a few weeks, and the sense we're moving from FOMT to FHMT is growing. (FOMT: Fear of Mean Tweets/FHMT: Fuck His Mean Tweets)

Which is inline with the Freedom Caucus's reported response to Trump's troll this morning. If they're shrugging and laughing it off, then all of a sudden his supposed powerful vaunted leverage via Twitter is so much gas.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link

all that's left is the Cult of Trump, who venerate everything that the Great Leader says and does

one of the top posts at the_d is this

http://i.imgur.com/aTWGjem.jpg

we're all clowning him for this and they fucking love it

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 24 March 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link

You know what's Hilarious Thing #2353? Joe Scarborough and co. lamented Trump's decision to hit health care first when he could've gone for something "easy" like "tax reform" yet Scar doesn't acknowledge that Trumpcare is tax reform for the rich.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 March 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link

Fun fun:

https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/845315058414563328

Wow. @DanaBashCNN reporting Ryan is going to show Trump the votes and tell him they don't have them. He'll ask what Trump wants to do now

First tweet in response:

https://twitter.com/BrianAbrams/status/845315715670396929

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7sqKMIXwAQXFS1.jpg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link

This is all Trump trying to figure out who's willing to follow him off a cliff, isn't it

once he identifies the truly-loyal, the purges can begin

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 24 March 2017 16:59 (seven years ago) link

xpost I'm sure Trump will argue that the smaller number of votes is actually the larger one

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

And meanwhile:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/24/bannon-tells-trump-keep-a-shit-list-of-republicans-who-opposed-you.html

“(Bannon) has told the president to keep a shit list on this,” one official told The Daily Beast. "He wants a running tally of (the Republicans) who want to sink this…Not sure if I'd call it an 'enemies list,' per se, but I wouldn't want to be on it."

One aide described it as a proposed “hit list” for Republicans not sufficiently loyal. Courses of action stemming from any related tally is yet to be determined, but the idea and message is that “we’ll remember you.”...

Sources also said that others including Mick Mulvaney, Trump's director of the Office of Management and Budget and co-founder of the House Freedom Caucus, endorsed the idea of the running list, and that Trump agreed with the idea.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link

(Which sounds more like, again, posturing than anything else.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

I approve of them all stabbing each other in the back, this is really best-case scenario for the GOP from my POV

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link

Also surfacing:

https://twitter.com/kelsey_snell/status/845307241968386048

CBO told Senate they can't vote on repeal w/out a score, that could take a week or more. That would push a vote to may, after Easter recess.

Whoops!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link

It totally hamstrings Ryan in the House - if they have all out internecine warfare, he won't be able to pass anything w out going to the Dems for votes.

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link

since when does the CBO have authority over when the Senate can schedule votes?

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link

In non-health care news:

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/845319604238987268
New bill intro’d by Sen. Tom Udall has a helluva name

Making Access Records Available to Lead American Government Openness (MAR-A-LAGO) Act

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link

I mean seriously, cui bono is at work here, and if Trump aims to be a beneficiary no matter what, nobody else is getting anything else.

xxpost -- replies indicate a reference to the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:07 (seven years ago) link

Snell also adds in a followup tweet:

If they amend senate side they will need to re score again and run through parliamentary process

So if the whole goal this entire time was to do something before the recess, THAT'S dead too.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link

replies indicate a reference to the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974

ah, I assume this is related to the "cannot increase the deficit" thing in the reconciliation rules/Byrd rule

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

More on said act

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Budget_and_Impoundment_Control_Act_of_1974

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:09 (seven years ago) link

Also, about that Nunes/Manafort thing:

https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/845316712849428480

.@BradMossEsq, a natsec lawyer, parses the terminology: 'Interviewing' Manafort means that it will be private, and not under oath.

Convenient.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

Hey, remember this guy!

http://dailyrushbo.com/limbaugh-it-could-well-be-that-ryan-wants-trump-to-fail/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

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.@BradMossEsq continues: 18 USC 1001 will apply to Manafort. If he makes false statement in interview, he is subject to criminal liability

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

BTW, something in the vein of Tombot's notes. Consider how the events here happened during the Obama years. Now consider how much worse they'll be now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-23/inside-alabama-s-auto-jobs-boom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link

xpost -- Good to know.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link

yeah I thought all congressional testimony was subject to criminal liability, whether public or not

Οὖτις, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Trump is out of his element. He can negotiate his business dealings because they don't make headlines and he can use whatever unscrupulous means he wants and just figure he'll settle out of court when he gets in trouble.

He's not used to everything being out in the open where people can get ahead of him on things

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link

Oh great Spicy press briefing

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

"Fake news - the bill passed already"

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

That Bloomberg piece is so fucking heartbreaking and enraging.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link

as noted somewhere else, too, months ago: he's never actually been a CEO of a publicly traded company. his business is entirely his own and has never been subject to any kind of oversight

xp

jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link

Does whatever a Spicy can.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link

as noted somewhere else, too, months ago: he's never actually been a CEO of a publicly traded company. his business is entirely his own and has never been subject to any kind of oversight

Was talking about just this with my wife last night. He's never even been responsible to shareholders! He must be losing his tiny mind.

Oh, and this is a truly joyous public pants-shitting. And after the travel ban fiasco, it's Strike Two. Really looking forward to his third power move, if this is how well 1 and 2 have gone.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link

Trump would strike out at T ball.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link

I would guess he'll revert to a flurry of Executive Orders that are mostly symbolic to let the stink out of the news a little

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link

Roger Stone is feisty!

https://twitter.com/GloriaBorger/status/845318592644165632

Roger Stone tells me we wants to voluntarily testify before house intel. And in public. Letter from his lawyer will say that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

Thread https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/845313114618957824

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

“(Bannon) has told the president to keep a shit list on this,” one official told The Daily Beast. "He wants a running tally of (the Republicans) who want to sink this…Not sure if I'd call it an 'enemies list,' per se, but I wouldn't want to be on it."

this seems benign until you realize Bannon's payback comes in the form of Breitbart brownshirt trolls not so much conventional political means

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

heh - spicer just said "we had this opportunity to" change/strengthen obamacare

Karl Malone, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:24 (seven years ago) link

He said "Trump left everything on the field" re: health care.

He left something on the field alright.

i am also Tombot (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 March 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link

And now Carter Page too:

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/845325091546320899

NEWS: Carter Page willing to testify before the House Intelligence Committee to "set the record straight" on Russia

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link


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