Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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think about this "omg did Flynn flip story" is beyond even the whole circumstantial, thin nature of it, but....that even if it is true, the effort required to remove all the guilty parties from office would be massive. I mean a few of em might just do the Nixon and resign but Trump will obviously not do that, and then there's the whole question of will the Republicans still continue to go down with the sinking ship.

still tho....if it prevents him from getting any of his stupid agenda through....

Neanderthal, Sunday, 26 March 2017 04:17 (seven years ago) link

Please enjoy some schadenfreude.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/us/trump-supporters-gop-health-bill.html

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2017 04:18 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile, new story, with some interviews and background details...and this bit:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/26/magazine/trump-vs-congress-now-what.html

Trump himself seemed prone to distraction as he spoke to me from the Oval Office. Though I was asking about his policy aims, his musings swerved off to other vexations. More than once he denounced as “fake news” reports about his administration’s supposed disharmony. He brought up his speech before the joint session of Congress in February, “which I hope you liked, but I certainly have gotten great reviews — even the people who hate me gave me the highest review.” During the call, I could hear Priebus nearby, occasionally murmuring encouragement.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2017 13:17 (seven years ago) link

You live and learn:

On the morning of Feb. 2, two Democratic leaders on trade issues, Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon and Representative Richard Neal of Massachusetts — the ranking members of the Senate Finance and House Ways and Means Committees — met with Trump, along with a few of his advisers and Republican lawmakers. Trump had already greeted the day by threatening to yank federal funding from the University of California at Berkeley after acts of violence had forced the cancellation of the Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos’s speech on campus, and by taunting Arnold Schwarzenegger’s poor ratings on “The Apprentice” during the National Prayer Breakfast. Disquiet lingered from Trump’s travel ban on refugees and his surly phone conversation with the Australian prime minister the previous week. Amid this chaos — entirely to Bannon’s liking and grating to nearly everyone else in Washington — actual legislative activity was slowly unfolding.

Trump began the meeting by condemning the trade deals negotiated by his predecessors. The press pool was then ushered out before the Democrats could say anything in front of the cameras. When Neal was given a chance to speak, he informed Trump, Pence, Bannon, Kushner and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross that America had in fact prospered as a result of past trade deals. Neal emphasized the crucial role that the Panama Canal played in the economic vitality of the Eastern Seaboard. Other than Ross, no one on Trump’s team seemed aware of this. “They were a bit surprised,” Neal later told me. He was also struck by the White House’s abhorrence of multilateral pacts, which seemed to him to be naïve. “The idea that you’re going to negotiate 148 bilateral agreements with W.T.O. members does not seem realistic,” Neal said. “The idea that we’re all of a sudden going to have a free-trade agreement with Great Britain, that’s going to take years to do.” Later, Neal said, Ross privately assured him that the Trump administration “would not give up on multilateral deals.”

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2017 13:24 (seven years ago) link

Found this kind of amazing:

http://www.thefader.com/2017/03/25/trump-jeanine-pirro-paul-ryan

Not that he'd try to plant the story, but that he'd tweet a promo in advance.

clemenza, Sunday, 26 March 2017 13:38 (seven years ago) link

on tuesday wisconsin votes to go forward for with a constitutional convention. six more states to go, and it's bye bye abortion, gay marriage, social security, voting rights, medicare, college tuition assistance, legalized marijuana, separation between church and state, and religious plurality, and hello full on neo-feudalism

http://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/raw/cid/1377335

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 26 March 2017 13:39 (seven years ago) link

A lot of folks still can't admit something to themselves, it seems

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-obamacare-trump-supporters-idUSKBN16X005

Separately, good luck there:

BREAKING NEWS:House Ways and Means Chairman Kevin Brady plans to move tax reform bill through committee in Spring

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2017 14:41 (seven years ago) link

that seth abramson guy whose tweet thread was listed above is the same guy who wrote that weird article about the sanders campaign being a postmodern narrative experiment

blame society (Treeship), Sunday, 26 March 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link

Huntington Beach, home of Black Flag... (xp)

hot bech babes lick the feemer and get the skeletor fever. (stevie), Sunday, 26 March 2017 14:45 (seven years ago) link

is this old news? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/26/magazine/trump-vs-congress-now-what.html

At some point during the five-hour dinner, Bannon recalls blurting out to Sessions, “We have to run you for president.” Just two years earlier, in 2011, he made a similar pitch to Sarah Palin, after completing a documentary about her called “The Undefeated.” Palin demurred. She was enjoying her life of celebrity and wealth, she had done little to immerse herself in policy minutiae and she was no doubt unsettled by Bannon’s warning that she stood little chance of defeating Obama.

Now he delivered a similar message to Sessions. “Look, you’re not going to win,” he recalls saying. “But you can get the Republican nomination. And once you control the apparatus, you can make fundamental changes. Trade is No.100 on the party’s list. You can make it No.1. Immigration is No.10. We can make it No.2.” Acknowledging that the drawling Alabama senator lacked Palin’s charisma, Bannon said, “You’ll be the anti-candidate.” But Sessions told Bannon he did not see himself running for president. “It was pretty obvious by the end of the night,” Bannon recalled, “that another candidate would have to do it.”

Two months later, on March 15, 2013, Bannon happened to be attending the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington when Trump took the stage. Trump had been a marginal figure at most in politics up to that point, entertaining a Reform Party run in the 2000 election — when he speculated that he would probably take more votes from the Democratic candidate than the Republican one — and leading a conspiratorial crusade in 2011 to force Obama to release his birth certificate. The possibility that he might be a suitable host body for Bannon’s worldview had not occurred to Bannon before Trump spoke.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 March 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Not entirely old but I'd never seen it laid out in that detail before.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 March 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link

kinda surprised that the moment of realization occurred as late as 2013. the birther thing seemed to be tightly aligned with breitbart's, er, worldview

Karl Malone, Sunday, 26 March 2017 17:50 (seven years ago) link

mark meadows has a really unique perspective:

He brushed off President Donald Trump's tweet from earlier Sunday morning claiming that "Democrats are smiling in D.C." over the bill's implosion.

"If they're applauding, they shouldn't, because I can tell you that conversations over the last 48 hours are really about how we come together in the Republican conference and try to get this over the finish line," Meadows said.

He said the bill, which was pulled half an hour before it was set to go to the floor on Friday for a vote, was "not a final passage."

"This was one bill that was going to go to the Senate, get revised and come back," Meadows said. "If it was the final bill, that would be accurate, but here we are in the negotiation process."

Karl Malone, Sunday, 26 March 2017 17:53 (seven years ago) link

Here we are back to step one

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Sunday, 26 March 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link

Schumerbait:

When I spoke with Trump, I ventured that, based on available evidence, it seemed as though conservatives probably shouldn’t hold their breath for the next four years expecting entitlement reform. Trump’s reply was immediate. “I think you’re right,” he said. In fact, Trump seemed much less animated by the subject of budget cuts than the subject of spending increases. “We’re also going to prime the pump,” he said. “You know what I mean by ‘prime the pump’? In order to get this” — the economy — “going, and going big league, and having the jobs coming in and the taxes that will be cut very substantially and the regulations that’ll be going, we’re going to have to prime the pump to some extent. In other words: Spend money to make a lot more money in the future. And that’ll happen.” A clearer elucidation of Keynesian liberalism could not have been delivered by Obama.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 March 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

Democrats are smiling in D.C. that the Freedom Caucus, with the help of Club For Growth and Heritage, have saved Planned Parenthood & Ocare!

lol this shit didn't work when you were still trying to get the bill to happen dude. pretty sure it's not going to win these guys over for whatever the next thing is that you need them to play ball on. like say they decide they won't accept any tax bill that leaves the IRS intact.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 26 March 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/25/two-lost-mr-rogers-episodes-mysteriously-resurface-and-might-be-a-message-to-trump.html

Two eps of Mr Rogers' Neighborhood show up online from 1983. Rest of headline is some pretty thick headed shit.

International House of Hot Takes (kingfish), Sunday, 26 March 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link

“You know what I mean by ‘prime the pump’?"

the pinefox, Sunday, 26 March 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link

He'd never get congressional support for large scale keynesian projects.

blame society (Treeship), Sunday, 26 March 2017 18:57 (seven years ago) link

all he seems to really want to do is save face and use his new position to make more money. it's hard to identify commitment, practical or ideological, to anything beyond that, from defense to diplomacy, health care to infrastructure, tax reform to his bigoted ass wall

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 26 March 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link

this is wild!

https://twitter.com/JudgeJeanine/status/845807926413443072

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 March 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link

That Merkel thing, and all the debts unmet, how has BILL TRUMP! not happened?

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Sunday, 26 March 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

(xpost) You're missing the first half of the story, caek:

http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/845646761704243200?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

clemenza, Sunday, 26 March 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link

her voice is bizarre

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 26 March 2017 21:54 (seven years ago) link

no i saw that clemenza. it's more her performance that is ... intense.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 March 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link

never not reading an article (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-blame-agenda-stalls-236508) that opens with:

"This account of White House infighting is based on interviews with more than two dozen Trump aides, confidants and others close to his administration, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 26 March 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link

Yeah--she's a little...out there. (Had never heard of her before this.)

clemenza, Sunday, 26 March 2017 22:06 (seven years ago) link

She's a decently sized character in the Robert Durst HBO documentary. The defense made durst look sympathetic compared to her - sexism probably also played a large factor but I thought her name looked familiar

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Sunday, 26 March 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link

So, it's gloves off and Trump is going after Ryan? This is beautiful.

Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 March 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link

Trump should be careful, Ryan is *ripped*

Neanderthal, Sunday, 26 March 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link

they should have sex

flappy bird, Sunday, 26 March 2017 22:57 (seven years ago) link

take it to the gay thread, romeo

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 March 2017 22:58 (seven years ago) link

really wish more people would just leave the fuckboy Prez out and just publicly put Bannon on blast. Freedom Caucus had some good barbed comebacks to his autocratic ultimatums

Neanderthal, Sunday, 26 March 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link

Folks, I want to be clear: this is not on President Trump. No one expected a businessman to completely understand the nuances, the complicated ins and outs of Washington and its legislative process. How would he know which individuals upon whom he would be able to rely?

Treeship, Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:00 (seven years ago) link

this is such a deranged perspective

Treeship, Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link

I enjoy how his handlers continually insist that we should be ok giving the dude a handicap four times the size of any previous modern President

Neanderthal, Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link

like his lack of experience isn't evidence that we need to give him more leeway, it's evidence that he shouldn't be doing this job, period.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:04 (seven years ago) link

this lady seems to think that ryan could have satisfied the freedom caucus. she goes back and forth between saying his failure to get those votes was due to incompetence and implying that he failed because he didn't "have the president's back."

Treeship, Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link

day one. i'm gonna repeal obamacare. thousands of muslims celebrating in jersey city on 9/11. obama was born in kenya, i tellya. voter fraud to the tune of three million, my inauguration crowd was bigger, i'm a billionaire, paul manafort and michael flynn were barely part of my campaign, those five black kids are guilty. hail to the chief

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:11 (seven years ago) link

On Sunday morning, White House chief of staff Reince Priebus told Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday" that the President's tweet to tune into a show that would skewer Ryan was merely "coincidental," and that Trump was trying to do his friend Pirro a favor, not insinuate Ryan should resign.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/26/politics/ryan-trump-relationship-health-care/index.html

You're just looking at things from the wrong angle.

clemenza, Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link

wtf

Treeship, Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:31 (seven years ago) link

I know that none of u put 2 and 2 together before, why would you, there's professionals for that, but trust me,like I've said a thousand times it's 5, and you've made money on it being 5, and it's crazy the future success we're gonna have with it being 5. Polls are already showing we're killing it with 5. I like this Pirro woman, she knows it's 5 too.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Sunday, 26 March 2017 23:40 (seven years ago) link

i read "Then, with the legislation teetering, Kushner left town for a two-day ski trip to Aspen" and "Adding to the hurt feelings, the three did not receive phone calls informing them that they did not get the positions before the hires were publicly announced" and hope that the POTUS got a cut of his son-in-law's $400,000,000 sale of 666 5th Avenue to the Chinese and pray that we repeal the estate tax

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 27 March 2017 01:18 (seven years ago) link

still a house being built on sand at this point but...

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/846135383129772032

Neanderthal, Monday, 27 March 2017 02:06 (seven years ago) link

ryan could have satisfied the freedom caucus

take it to the gay thread, romeo

takin care of bismuth (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 27 March 2017 02:24 (seven years ago) link

Balance of power shifting away from Priebus and Bannon: http://m.sfgate.com/politics/article/Trump-taps-Kushner-to-lead-overhaul-of-government-11029365.php

Οὖτις, Monday, 27 March 2017 03:13 (seven years ago) link

Ah, that just sounds like the usual thing that happens. It being his son-in-law is the fun touch.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 March 2017 04:11 (seven years ago) link

The Judge Jeanine video is one of the funniest, most preposterous things I have seen in ages!

the pinefox, Monday, 27 March 2017 08:15 (seven years ago) link

Has it been established that Trump knew she was going to say those things, when he told people to watch it? Or is it believed to be coincidence?

the pinefox, Monday, 27 March 2017 08:16 (seven years ago) link


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