Trump's America, March 2017: Using His Inside VOICE

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omg

Treeship, Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:39 (seven years ago) link

Okay folks, it's fully on now:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-flynn-offers-to-testify-in-exchange-for-immunity-1490912959?mod=e2tw

Mike Flynn, President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, has told the Federal Bureau of Investigation and congressional officials investigating the Trump campaign’s potential ties to Russia that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for a grant of immunity from prosecution, according to officials with knowledge of the matter.

As an adviser to Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign, and later one of Mr. Trump’s top aides in the White House, Mr. Flynn was privy to some of the most sensitive foreign-policy deliberations of the new administration and was directly involved in discussions about the possible lifting of sanctions on Russia imposed by the Obama administration.

He has made the offer to the FBI and the House and Senate intelligence committees though his lawyer but has so far found no takers, the officials said.

Mr. Flynn’s attorney, Robert Kelner, declined to comment.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

ha -- news is moving so fast that I thought I was responding to that breaking bit several minutes ago

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link

xp sweet

sleeve, Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link

Snitchin' Mike

Treeship, Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:50 (seven years ago) link

He has made the offer to the FBI and the House and Senate intelligence committees though his lawyer but has so far found no takers, the officials said.

uh...can we get any takers on this

Karl Malone, Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:50 (seven years ago) link

willing to be interviewed in exchange for a grant of immunity from prosecution

haha oh shit, yeah this seems like a big deal

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link

May be that he's not offering up anything meaningful on other people, so why grant immunity?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link

why would he need immunity? i didn't expect him to get charged with anything.

Treeship, Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:55 (seven years ago) link

As the voice of miserable pessimism, it just means he thinks he might have done something illegal - which could be lying about or failing to disclose payments from RT or Turkey in his security clearance application. It doesn't mean he has flipped on Trump - particularly if nobody is willing to take up the offer.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:55 (seven years ago) link

SV is right but a Trump guy breaking the law and getting caught w/in the first few months (weeks?!) of the administration is at the very least a black mark on WH (and one that apparently refuses to go away)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 March 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link

Maybe all along, the leaker was....Hillary.

she had seen that she'd be taking office with a divided Congress, united against her, even her own party in some ways. she knew she'd be ineffective.

Why not tear the Republicans apart from the inside by letting him win, and then framing him for an espionage campaign that all but sinks the Republican party for eternity? All along, she had us all where she wanted us.

my alternate theory is that lizard people did it.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:01 (seven years ago) link

Flynn needs to be careful about standing too close to any open windows

Moodles, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:02 (seven years ago) link

xxpost that's the thing really is the whole "Paterno" scenario. obv he became more directly implicated as that story developed further but in the earlygoing, he was seen more was the guy that "didn't do enough" when made aware of something and held accountable for what happened under him.

President appointing a guy who is about to be indicted to National SEcurity is as bad a headline as you could ask for.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:03 (seven years ago) link

Flynn needs to be careful about standing too close to any open windows

― Moodles, Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:02 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

could Trump's admin even get that right at this point?

wouldn't be half surprised to see a processional of Trump goons tricked one by one into falling out a window to their demise while Flynn sits idly by and laughs

Neanderthal, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:04 (seven years ago) link

With Putin's help, anything is possible, and this is one of his specialties

Moodles, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:05 (seven years ago) link

Flynn probably has no takers as he's quibbling w/ the FBI over the hotel they will put him up in

Neanderthal, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:08 (seven years ago) link

why would he need immunity? i didn't expect him to get charged with anything.

― Treeship, Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:55 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

failing to register as a foreign agent of turkey - illegal, regardless of their ham fisted ex post facto registration
taking payments from a foreign power while being retired military - also illegal

I cant see how his testimony would relate to that but hey, give him points for trying

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:17 (seven years ago) link

Trump's primary threat tactic is p funny - w his approval ratings in the tank, who does he think is gonna run in a year out of sheer loyalty to Trump, rather than loyalty to a particular ideology or actual constituents. Like are there *really* that many available candidates out there who are just "idgaf what he does, I will support him on anything no matter what"?

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:18 (seven years ago) link

Trump doesn't get that his legislative support is predicated on his being a vehicle for *their* priorities, not vice versa

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:19 (seven years ago) link

Like are there *really* that many available candidates out there who are just "idgaf what he does, I will support him on anything no matter what"?

Just you wait, next year we'll be reading news stories about Congressional candidate X, "better known as Cuntkiller88 from /r/the_Donald"

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:20 (seven years ago) link

2017 is going to be known as the "gas leak year" isn't it

Neanderthal, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:22 (seven years ago) link

Fuck, these people are hopeless.

Two days after President Donald Trump signed an executive order rolling back Barack Obama’s Climate Action Plan, easing fracking restrictions and reversing the previous administration’s efforts to shrink America’s carbon footprint, the Environmental Protection Agency sent out a press release intended to congratulate the president for his bold leadership. The agency included quotes from groups like the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity, the Chamber of Commerce, and the American Petroleum Institute, all of whom heaped praise on Trump. But the e-mail also contained an unexpected message—one attributed to West Virginia Republican senator Shelley Moore Capito, a longtime supporter of the coal industry in her home state.

“President Trump has chosen to recklessly bury his head in the sand,” the quote attributed to Capito read. “Walking away from the Clean Power Plan and other climate initiatives, including critical resiliency projects is not just irresponsible— it's irrational.” It continued: “With the world watching, President Trump and Administrator Pruitt have chosen to shirk our responsibility, disregard clear science and undo the significant progress our country has made to ensure we leave a better, more sustainable planet for generations to come.”

There were three apparent problems with the quote, which was featured prominently atop the E.P.A.’s press release. First, it wasn’t exactly a ringing endorsement of Trump’s executive order. Second, the release misspelled the senator’s first name. And third, Capito never actually said any of that. The E.P.A. accidentally attributed the quote to Capito, when it had actually come from Democratic senator Tom Carper of Delaware, the Democrat leading the Environment and Public Works Committee. Oops.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link

FWIW, Flynn's lawyer has issued a statement saying 'Yeah the committees'....but no word on the FBI. (Yet?)

https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/847590500056137728

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:37 (seven years ago) link

xpost Wooooooooooooooooow.

Ambling Shambling Man (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link

2017 is going to be known as the "gas leak year" isn't it

― Neanderthal, Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:22 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where u been man

"Porter Ranch leak declared largest methane leak in U.S. history" in Feb 2016

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-porter-ranch-methane-20160225-story.html

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:42 (seven years ago) link

That EPA thing has to be an "inside job", so to speak

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:44 (seven years ago) link

Oh...MEANTIME...

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/civil-wars/articles/2017-03-27/rex-tillerson-may-be-in-hot-water-over-exxonmobil-emails

The company was required to produce all relevant internal communications on climate risk to comply with a state subpoena, but failed to produce the bulk of the emails from the Wayne Tracker address.

The company responded with a long letter full of ideological posturing, but admitted that it failed to turn over the bulk of the emails because its "technological processes [for finding materials responsive to the subpoena] did not automatically extend to the secondary email account."

The judge was evidently not impressed with Exxon's arguments. He has ordered the company to turn over the "Wayne Tracker" emails by March 31, along with sworn affidavits explaining how the company identified and turned over documents in response to the subpoena, and explanations of what documents may have been lost and why.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:47 (seven years ago) link

Zing.

https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/847593637839912960

REMINDER: #Flynn to NBC in September: "When you are given immunity, that means you have probably committed a crime."

Relevant interview is linked there.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:48 (seven years ago) link

Plus Eli Lake saying Nunes 'misled' him, ie, outright lied.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-30/devin-nunes-and-the-tragedy-of-the-russia-inquiry

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:49 (seven years ago) link

The Wayne Tracker thing is flagrant and sanctionable. Its the kind of discovery abuse that will get your shit kicked straight out of court reagrdless of the merits of your case/defense.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 30 March 2017 23:58 (seven years ago) link

ugh from the tracker article

The company responded with a long letter full of ideological posturing, but admitted that it failed to turn over the bulk of the emails because its "technological processes [for finding materials responsive to the subpoena] did not automatically extend to the secondary email account."

and this is 1000000000000000000000% why they set it up in the first place.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 31 March 2017 00:02 (seven years ago) link

god's not done with him yet

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 31 March 2017 00:03 (seven years ago) link

some poor bastard is going to have to submit a sworn statement to explain this bullshit. I would not want to be that person.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 31 March 2017 00:04 (seven years ago) link

Chris Hayes doing superb job tying it all together.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 March 2017 00:20 (seven years ago) link

Oh Nunespaws

https://mobile.twitter.com/TimOBrien/status/847588412093849601

Nunes acknowledges lying to @EliLake about his contacts with Trump's White House

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 00:45 (seven years ago) link

lol. this guy is a bad tv-actor version of a bumbling villain in a Coen brothers story

Dan S, Friday, 31 March 2017 00:58 (seven years ago) link

why would he need immunity? i didn't expect him to get charged with anything.

Can you please just not be whatever this is, sometimes

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Friday, 31 March 2017 01:01 (seven years ago) link

just use the killfile or something jesus christ

Treeship, Friday, 31 March 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link

Last three tweets by this guy (resume/bio here) seem of note:

https://twitter.com/marceelias

Rob Kelner is a very good lawyer who knows when a client needs immunity. And if Rob says Flynn has a "story to tell", WH should watch out....Flynn's choice of Rob Kelner is itself significant. He was no fan of Trump and is not part of the Trump wing of GOP. A very principled guy....Flynn wisely chose a lawyer who owes nothing to the Trump WH. Rob will provide independent counsel to a guy with "a story to tell."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 01:22 (seven years ago) link

Schiff a few hours back:

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/847546367035813890

Received WH invite to review docs. I've accepted, here’s my reply. If same docs provided to Chair last wk, WH has a lot of explaining to do.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8MVeBPXoAEUQIN.jpg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 01:26 (seven years ago) link

i never really felt like we'd see a president pence at least not until after 2018 for sure but w/ this shit escalating, GOP tensions, horrible outlook for major GOP legislation, and trump's abysmal approval ratings is there a small tiny ~1%-5% chance??? all hail president mike pence??

marcos, Friday, 31 March 2017 01:29 (seven years ago) link

With Putin's help, anything is possible, and this is one of his specialties

yer stranded somewhere btwn reality, Yakov Smirnoff and Vince Foster

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 March 2017 01:42 (seven years ago) link

Putin's perfectly happy w current situation - a weakened and bumbling prez serves his interest. He's not gonna do anything to "help" Trump, the schmuck has already served his purpose.

Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 01:54 (seven years ago) link

weird watching "left twitter" really really double down on how Hillary is anti-christ when Trump/ GOP malfeasance starts boiling over

we get it guys. i didn't much care for her either. but you know, fuck off for 5 minutes.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 31 March 2017 01:59 (seven years ago) link

just use the killfile or something jesus Christ

there's no killfile on zing

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Friday, 31 March 2017 02:01 (seven years ago) link

tho tbf i guess a lot of those folks are prob hate-following a bunch of HRC lunatics that i avoid like a burning building

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 31 March 2017 02:07 (seven years ago) link


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