Who will win the Palme at Cannes? (2017)

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I was p sure it was Siegel, but was too lazy to open a new window to check.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 14 April 2017 04:49 (seven years ago) link

Quinzaine program is up:

A CIAMBRA de Jonas Carpignano
ALIVE IN FRANCE de Abel Ferrara
L’AMANT D’UN JOUR de Philippe Garrel
BUSHWICK de Cary Murnion & Jonathan Milott
CUORI PURI de Roberto De Paolis
THE FLORIDA PROJECT de Sean Baker
FROST de Sharunas Bartas
I AM NOT A WITCH de Rungano Nyoni
JEANNETTE, L’ENFANCE DE JEANNE D’ARC de Bruno Dumont
L’INTRUSA de Leonardo Di Costanzo
LA DEFENSA DEL DRAGÓN de Natalia Santa
MARLINA SI PEMBUNUH DALAM EMPAT BABAK de Mouly Surya
MOBILE HOMES de Vladimir de Fontenay
NOTHINGWOOD de Sonia Kronlund
ÔTEZ-MOI D’UN DOUTE de Carine Tardieu
PATTI CAKE$ de Geremy Jasper
THE RIDER de Chloé Zhao
UN BEAU SOLEIL INTÉRIEUR de Claire Denis
WEST OF THE JORDAN RIVER (FIELD DIARY REVISITED) de Amos Gitai

Sean Baker got robbed :( Still no sign of Östlund, Joachim Trier and Ergüven.

Frederik B, Thursday, 20 April 2017 12:10 (seven years ago) link

What's Quinzaine?

Heavy Doors (jed_), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

They use it to make tonic water.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link

Director's Forthnight = Quinzaine de Realisateurs. I think I say Quinzaine because I also say Semaine = Critics Week, which I say to differ from other Critics Weeks at other festivals. So it's Semaine, Quinzaine, Un Certain Regard and Competition.

Frederik B, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

I see. Why aren't Denis and Dumont in the official competition?

Heavy Doors (jed_), Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

Because the guys who chose the films for competition are morons...

Frederik B, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link

I mean, there's almost no chance that Claire Denis making a film based on Roland Barthes isn't twice as good as whatever pap Doillon or Hazanavicius has made this time. But it's probably also weirder and less sellable. Cannes is getting more and more boring each year imo. Hope it changes soon.

Frederik B, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

Is the Denis her science fiction film Fred?

Heavy Doors (jed_), Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:36 (seven years ago) link

Apparently it's a comedy based on Barthes' The Lovers Discourse starring Juliette Binoche and Gerard Depardieu. According to IMDB she has two other projects in production, so I don't really know what's going on.

Frederik B, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link

Loathe Depardieu but can't help to be curious about that one.

On Some Faraday Beach (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 21 April 2017 08:37 (seven years ago) link

He was pretty good in Valley of Love. He has become so absurd at this point, that he probably mostly fits into sorta meta-projects, which Denis' new film sorta sounds like as well.

Frederik B, Friday, 21 April 2017 08:45 (seven years ago) link

Isn't the Hazanavicius the Godard/Wiazemsky biopic? That one seems like a real winner.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 21 April 2017 12:06 (seven years ago) link

Meh. Hazanavicius should have been banned to sidebars after the atrocious The Search.

Frederik B, Friday, 21 April 2017 12:20 (seven years ago) link

Was being sarcastic.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 21 April 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

Oh. Okay. Sorry. It honestly has gotten a lot of hype, and he did win all the oscars the last time he delved into film history.

Frederik B, Friday, 21 April 2017 20:21 (seven years ago) link

hmm, curious about the lynne ramsay, don't know whether to be optimistic or not as she hasn't made a great film this millennium

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 April 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link

Btw there's not a single film from Scandinavia at Cannes this year. Not in Competition, nor in Un Certain Regard, Quinzaine or Semaine :( After Joachim Trier and Ruben Östlund were tipped for competition, and after the two last UCR's were won by Iceland and Finland. A complete shutout. That's a major disappointment.

Frederik B, Friday, 21 April 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link

Ostlund also added to competition (at Fred's behest, I can only assume)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 April 2017 21:10 (seven years ago) link

I'm happy :) But that was a glaring omission, and became even weirder when he didn't show up in Quinzaine. The Trier is probably just bad.

Frederik B, Thursday, 27 April 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Well it won't be Okja.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 19 May 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link

this festival can go to hell once and for all

Van Horn Street, Friday, 19 May 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

Yeah don't think it will win but reviews seem pretty good.

devvvine, Friday, 19 May 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

^can't tell if this is a joke or not

nomar, Friday, 19 May 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

dear god, this is unbearable.

devvvine, Friday, 19 May 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link

Following along, so much of the sidebars looks good. But the main competition looks kinda dreadful, tbh.

Frederik B, Friday, 19 May 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link

Ratner the epitomé of namedropping Hollywood douchebro.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 May 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

Not sure how reliable this is, but ...

https://cannes-rurban.rhcloud.com/index.pl/2017

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 14:08 (six years ago) link

Voted for the film with the most Huppert in.

devvvine, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

Eric, that link has Beguiled as the most highly rated film but it hasn't even screened yet.

Whooremeister (jed_), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 01:01 (six years ago) link

Nathaniel Rogers on Le Redoutable:

Robbing Garrel of his trademark mop of curls to play the male pattern baldness of Godard seems so perverse though! I can't get over it.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link

I can imagine Killing of a Sacred Deer winning Kidman a prize.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link

that shitstain Jeff Wells loathes the Lanthimos, so im looking fwd

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 04:03 (six years ago) link

x-post: They also owe her one after she lost in Dogville to Marie-Josée Croze in The Barbarian Invasions.

This competition still looks mostly dire. Sean Baker's followup to Tangerine got raves in Quinzaine, though. Really looking forward to seeing that.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 10:36 (six years ago) link

Nick James from S&S calls the Lanthimos "a tedious exercise in morbidity chic", which def makes me want to see it:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/comment/festivals/cannes-2017-best-so-far-happy-end-western-loveless

The Haneke got a five star review from P Brad in the Graun:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/may/21/happy-end-review-michael-haneke-isabelle-huppert-cannes-2017

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 10:40 (six years ago) link

I can imagine Killing of a Sacred Deer winning Kidman a prize.

Sounds like it's the Coppola that's most likely to do it.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 25 May 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Even the disarmingly agreeable Bilge Ebiri thinks this year's Cannes lineup is "a bit of a bust."

https://www.villagevoice.com/2017/05/25/canness-beguilements/

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 May 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

"beguilements" is one of my favorite words

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 May 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link

The lineup was pathetic. Only five new names of which at least two, Bong Joon-ho and Noah Baumbach, should have had their Cannes debut, like, a decade ago. A bunch of repeaters, and then inexplicable bullshit from people like Doillon and Mondruczo. As the most prestigious film-festival in the world, a response like this is an absolute embarrassment.

Frederik B, Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

It's only a film festival Ingrid

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link

Would srsly love it if an ACT-UP prestige-adjacent pic took the prize in this field

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link

x-post: It's the biggest event on the art film calendar. It's millions and millions of dollars. And it's an embarrassment of reactionary aesthetics, eurocentrism and misogyny :)

The ACT-UP drama sounds cool, but if it won it would be the fourth French winner this decade. Add up two English language winners, and the boringness of curators/juries is pretty obvious.

Frederik B, Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 26 May 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

I reckon no-votes Loveless will win.

Whooremeister (jed_), Friday, 26 May 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link

If the ACT-UP film is anywhere near as good as Entre Le Murs/The Class then I'm very excited to see it.

Whooremeister (jed_), Friday, 26 May 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link

I didn't even vote in this lol

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 27 May 2017 05:09 (six years ago) link

Me neither ha

Whooremeister (jed_), Saturday, 27 May 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

Voted Kawase, just because that would be the funniest winner. Also, I like her films. Hoping for the Hong, though, which apparently Will Smith gave a standing ovation.

Frederik B, Saturday, 27 May 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

idgaf about fests i dont attend

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 May 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

Then why don't you fuck off?

I feel like I explain this every year, but who wins what in Cannes pretty much defines what I'll get to see when in Copenhagen. Small cultural market = these things really, really matter.

Frederik B, Saturday, 27 May 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

the depends on your definition of "mattering"

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 27 May 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

for the same reason you dont stfu fred

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

you quintessence of pretentious ass

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 May 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link

Well. yeah...

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 27 May 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

Lol, are you quoting the period film thread?

Frederik B, Saturday, 27 May 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

Anyways, the side competition are giving out awards:
UCR:
“UN CERTAIN REGARD” PRIZE

LERD (UN HOMME INTEGRE – A MAN OF INTEGRITY) by Mohammad Rasoulof

PRIZE FOR BEST ACTRESS
JASMINE TRINCA for FORTUNATA by Sergio Castellitto

PRIZE FOR THE BEST POETIC NARRATIVE
BARBARA de Mathieu Amalric

PRIZE FOR BEST DIRECTION
Taylor Sheridan for WIND RIVER

JURY PRIZE
LAS HIJAS DE ABRIL (APRIL’S DAUGHTER) by Michel Franco

Quinzaine:

Art Cinema Award

“The Rider” by Chloé Zhao

SACD Prize

“Lover For a Day,” by Philippe Garrel

and

“Let the Sunshine In,” by Claire Denis

Europa Cinemas Label

“A Ciambra,” by Jonas Carpignano

Frederik B, Saturday, 27 May 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

Lol, are you quoting the period film thread?

Not a period film thread, but a pre-menstrual one maybe.

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Sunday, 28 May 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link

cinephiles fighting.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 28 May 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

no wonder we live in a world where apparently netflix and cannes can't seem to cooperate.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 28 May 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

everything is going to shit.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 28 May 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

lol @ movie not in this poll winning the palme

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 May 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link

We don't know yet! Still rooting for Kawase!!

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 May 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

Oh. Oh well...

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 May 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

Coppola?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 May 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

Palme d’Or: Ruben Östlund – The Square
Gran Prix: Robin Campillo – 120 Beats Per Minute
Jury Prize: Andrey Zvyagintsev – Loveless
Best Director: Sofia Coppola – The Beguiled
Best Actor: Joaquin Phoenix – You Were Never Really Here
Best Actress: Diane Kruger – In the Fade
Best Screenplay: Yorgos Lanthimos – The Killing of a Sacred Deer, Lynne Ramsay – You Were Never Really Here

Camera d’Or: Léonor Sérraille – Jeune Femme

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 May 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

Coppola first woman in 56 years to win for Best Director. Another embarrassing fact.

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 May 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

can't imagine too many women have won the screenplay award either, but better late than never

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 May 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

I think Lynne Ramsay is number four, but the award hasn't been given out each year, and also the last time was Tatiana Niculescu Bran in 2012. So it's not quite the same.

The embarrassment is more the fact that women has won the Grand Prix a couple of times, and Andrea Arnold alone has three Jury Awards, so they definitely make film that the juries like, but somehow never get the directing award... That's a quite typical unconscious misogynistic bias thingy, where something a woman has done was very good, but it probably wasn't really her that did it, you know?

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 May 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

that embarrassment exists throughout the entire film industry (maybe less so in Denmark?) and Cannes, like so many institutions at the top of the food chain, aren't willing to make any progress.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 28 May 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

and not only for directors. pretty much every role in the industry except hair stylist and make up is riddled with that sexist bias.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 28 May 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

Oh, it's especially awful in Denmark at the moment, unfortunately.

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 May 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link

So yeah, I agree. But Cannes is even more awful than they could be. Venice, Berlin, Locarno, they've at least given a few awards to women. Cannes just bumbles along, putting Sean Penn and Jacques Doillon in the main competition, then saying there is no room for women because they only choose the best of the best.

Frederik B, Sunday, 28 May 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

Tragic how the 'but is she qualified?' argument is represented in all circumstances, in all industries.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 28 May 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link


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