"OK Computer": Classic Or Dud?

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''I love "OK Computer". It is the favourite album I own.'' Colin- I suggest you start buying more records.

― Julio Desouza, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Julio's right. I suggest starting with Fun House and Kick Out The Jams.

― Nate Patrin, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

''Julio's right. I suggest starting with Fun House and Kick Out The Jams.''

NOOOOO!!!!! Don't listen to Nate!!!

Its Fushitsusha's 'I Saw It! That of which I could only sense...'

Go for that!

― Julio Desouza, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't get it. Except for "Electioneering" and "Climbing Up the Walls" I don't think there's anything really bad on it, it's mostly pretty pleasant, but I can't get into it in any big way as an album either. But I also don't like U2 and most Pink Floyd, who are two bands Radiohead remind me of. "Let Down" is the only song I really miss from it. "Paranoid Android", "Karma Police", and "Exit Music" are nice too. Siamese Dream means a lot more to me as a 90s arena-size anthemic angst-rock album. So does Badmotorfinger, if that counts for anything. I just can't swallow the notion that OK Computer is one of the greatest rock albums of the 90s - surely this honour should go to something that at least attempts to rock?

― sundar subramanian, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually I was bluffing. "How To Disappear Completely" is the only Radiohead song that reminds me of Pink Floyd and it's on another album. They do remind of U2, though, whom I like less.

― sundar subramanian, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...

Not a dud, but it's not nearly as great as everyone says.

― Manny Parsons, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

''Not a dud, but it's not nearly as great as everyone says.''

I didn't know that everyone thought this alb was great. If by everyone= media, then they are not 'everyone' are they?

― Julio Desouza, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

He's been picking at the crumbs. Julio Desouza.

― Dare, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"I didn't know that everyone thought this alb was great. "

Really? I thought everyone raved about this album. I've only ever found one other person who thought it was so-so. Everyone else I know thinks it's one of the best albums every. I can't, for the life of me, figure out what the hell they're talking about.

― Manny Parsons, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

My generation's "The Wall". Meaning we all got really really into it and had hour-long discussions on how DEEP it is and then all realised that it's actually a load of pompous psychobabble. Ten to twenty years from now we'll have learned to just appreciate it for the pretty melodies (just like ppl did with "The Wall").

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hmmmmmmmm. I always liked radiohead, but have to admit that when okc came out i tried to love it. I really tried. I mean , Jesus, everyone told me i had to love it. But its cold. I see it as a pet sounds type album. The music press has decided its great, but it doesn't touch me. And just like pet sounds it has two or three knock out songs (sloop john b, god only knows, wouldn't it be nice- exit music, lucky, karma police) but some stuff is just shit.

The next two keep me more satisfied. I think they are the true classic albums. OKC sounds very passengers to me, and also early floyd. And that last roger waters lp, last march, stand final cut thats it. I think radiohead were lucky that people were looking for an album to be the saviour of rock....

― John, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

''My generation's "The Wall". Meaning we all got really really into it and had hour-long discussions on how DEEP it is and then all realised that it's actually a load of pompous psychobabble.''

Why are you being so nice to it?

''Ten to twenty years from now we'll have learned to just appreciate it for the pretty melodies (just like ppl did with "The Wall").''

Not after the avant-garde REVOLUTION is over and done with. We will not be needing 'melodies' any longer hurrah.

― JUlio Desouza, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kylie Minogue avante garde or Squarepusher avante garde?

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

The monkees avant garde

― Julio Desouza, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I guess that judging by the length of this thread, the album is definately worthy of consideration, and amazingly enough it seems, even now, to be stirring up a bit of controversy!

Dear God, it may be one of the best albums ever!

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAH!!!!

oops. I need to change my underwear.

― Philip Gomez, Sunday, 7 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

six months pass...

"OK Computer" is, far and away, the best album of the 90's. Not since The Beatles "Abbey Road" (and maybe not even then) has an album worked like this. It truely defines what a great ALBUM should be... If you want a collection of songs, make a fucking mix tape. A great album should have a gorgeous flow that turns it's well written songs into a cohesive whole.

To the people who badmouthed "OK Computer": Ordinarily, there are reasons why some people like some albums, while not liking other albums; we have different tastes, for whatever underlying reasons. However, "OK Computer" transcends this. This leads me to believe that you are:
a) A fool running his/her mouth without having given the album a proper listening.
b) A fool trying to be different by slagging off a universally recognized masterpiece.
c) A waste of fucking space who shouldn't be posting on any sort of list where people will have to hear your shit ramblings.
d) All of the above.

― doesn't matter, Friday, 17 January 2003 22:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Now get ready for more "Dude, the Replacements rocked and if you don't like them YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ROCK AND ROLL!" type responses."

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

i lurrrve ok computer also

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

gary numan, hehe.

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic, if only because its not a dud. Damn over-praised. I'd get rid of "Subturreanean Homesick Alien," "Climbing Up The Walls" and "The Tourist" for a solid nine song album. Old school, '70s style.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

my least favourite is the clumsy (in places) paranoid android. the rest is unfailingly beautiful...

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

I just never enjoyed it, which surprised even me: I found it pretty much just moany and boring, and that was during a period where "moany and boring" was pretty much all I listened to. I dunno, I'm still working on the assumption that it was some odd fluke of a personal thing that kept me from getting anything out of it. The summer after it came out I bitched and moaned so much about my friends wanting to listen to it that they celebrated when I went out of town for the weekend: they basically got high and spent two days listening to it over and over while they had the chance.

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 18 January 2003 00:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I had never heard of Radiohead before, and I only bought the damn thing after seeing the cartoon video, but it totally blew me away. I know several people who call it the greatest album ever recorded, period, and I don't blame them one iota. And it's the best conversation piece ever because no two people will interpret it the same way.

Don't even get me STARTED on how great the Replacements were. Let's just say you had to be there.

― Evan (Evan), Saturday, 18 January 2003 01:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

People who were there disagree!

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 18 January 2003 03:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...

dredged up to say Classic!

― cotton poos, Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link

that paranoid android video is SO. FUCKING. COOL.

― Unknown User, Thursday, 3 June 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Undeniable classic.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link

crap

― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I had something to say but was taken aback by the remarkably non-emo posting style of the pre-trife Ethan

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

*rereads thread from the start* Good god, the initial life of this thread was amazing and/or strange. The Numan digression was utterly wonderful and Nicole/El Diablo used a smiley icon! Unironically!

xpost -- yeah, I forgot about that. 9/11 CHANGED EVERYTHING MAN.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

It's certainly aged better than, say, Hail to the Thief (although I did play a couple of tracks of that album the other day....not entirely terrible, but not classic).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Radiohead have turned into one of those bands where I actually think each new album of theirs is better than the last one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned, you're breaking my heart.

― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

The only feelings about music that will force me to change my opinion are my own.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't agree with ya there, Ned. Kid A upset the whole trajectory, and they've yet to fully recover, as far as I'm concerned.

Were I to be limited to one Radiohead album for the rest of my days, I'd go with The Bends.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

For however much I loved this at the time, I haven't listened to it for years (and I listen to the last three albums plenty). Not that it's not good, I may have just burned out on it (and what they did afterwards makes it seem a little bland in comparison).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree w/ Ned on this one, I just listened to HTTT and was thinking, man this might be their best record..., and um ok computer is a classik

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Alex in NYC in liking the most traditional guitar driven album SHOCKA

― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Thursday, 3 June 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Better tunes are better tunes....regardless of instrumentation.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I just got rid of my dubbed copy but I ended up keeping "Paranoid Android," "Let Down," "Karma Police," "Fitter Happier" (for the mem'ries), "Electioneering" and "No Surprises" on a mixtape.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

probably it's not dud, but i suspect it's a bit overrated. that comment about _ok computer_ being 90's _the wall_ has more than a grain of truth. and i'm not into that apocalyptic/paranoid imagery at all.

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

As I've said before:

...even though this album perhaps thinks it's The Wall, it's really The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway with a marketing degree. Thankfully the degree was top notch.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Never got into it. Dog Man Star is tons better.

― C-Man (C-Man), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

...even though this album perhaps thinks it's The Wall, it's really The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway with a marketing degree. Thankfully the degree was top notch.

good point, Ned.

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

This is an outdated idea, but I would like to add that as much as I love Pulp, The Fear is...pretty bad. Radiohead's wretchedness shouldn't even be a subject of discussion (because it is very evident).

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with Ned, I think since the bends they've gotten better with each album. But I only realize this when I sit and think about how often I play each of the albums.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

OK Computer will probably always be running neck and neck with Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness as my favorite album of all time. when i was a depressed, whingy, suburban white teenager, music was the only answer i had to anything (and it might still be). those two album were exactly what i needed at specific points in my life. that said, i rarely listen to either of them these days, but when i do, i enjoy them as much as i used to. i can see why people wouldnt like them, but OKC will always be Classic in my book.

― Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 3 June 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I still mean everything I posted on this thread, except with a bit less wide-eyed wonder about it all (because I am cynical and older now, obv).

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 3 June 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

God I can't stand Radiohead. It's a mystery to me why they're so popular amongst people I trust to like good stuff!

I like the Lamb lies down on Broadway a damn sight more.

― Keith Watson (kmw), Thursday, 3 June 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

"...and i'm not into that apocalyptic/paranoid imagery at all. "

then why listen to an album with "Paranoid Android" as a single?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 3 June 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

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