theresa may: is her project subtly machiavellian or merely cunning, baldrick-style?

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i'm half wondering whether she feels slightly frozen in some social situations like that - a feeling business dinners aren't really her scene, eating/drinking being quite a private thing and existing in a different sphere to the desk bound detail grinding.

Fizzles, Monday, 1 May 2017 12:25 (seven years ago) link

for: she's not part of what i've seen described as the 'dinner party elite' (i.e. london social set).
against: she's wined and dined dacre (and another newspaper editor?).

Fizzles, Monday, 1 May 2017 12:28 (seven years ago) link

There's no way that May drinks, let alone gets drunk. I think she was actually asked how much she drank a few years ago and she was weirdly evasive about it, probably because she was told that being teetotal makes you look even more distant in the eyes of a lot of the electorate.

Matt DC, Monday, 1 May 2017 12:44 (seven years ago) link

yes, makes sense sadly (not that i have anything against teetotalism as such, but unfortunately it limits the possibility that she got stinking drunk and decided to troll juncker).

Fizzles, Monday, 1 May 2017 12:48 (seven years ago) link

She is type 1 diabetic, which must play a part in determining her alcohol intake.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Monday, 1 May 2017 12:48 (seven years ago) link

type 1 diabetics do not have to be teetotalers.

Alex in Spree-Athen (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:22 (seven years ago) link

is this level of... control i guess you'd call it, something new? it's becoming really odd, is well past that in fact. is it May or is it her handlers? if May, why? surely she can't feel *that* ill at ease with humans the public? word in that lrb article was that she *liked* doing door-to-door arrests canvassing and campaigning.

Reporters hit out at Theresa May during her visit to Cornwall today after local journalists were reportedly “shut in a room” and banned from filming her.

The Prime Minister is touring the South West but local media was stopped from recording her while she visited an industrial estate.

http://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/reporters-shut-room-banned-filming-theresa-may-cornwall-visit/02/05/

Fizzles, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:50 (seven years ago) link

yeah I was about to say maybe it's less the canvassing and more the camera crews following her around

The Real Remoaner (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link

right, yes. it's a media than generally portrays her in a v flattering light tho. i wonder if it's the numerous quite well known photos where she's looking a bit weird. most recently eating some chips this morning. i wonder if that's somehow *got* to her.

or maybe she feels in some way that media isn't a 'real' part of being on the stump.

still odd.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:56 (seven years ago) link

Note: The media has a very thin skin for this sort of thing...

Mark G, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:11 (seven years ago) link

me upthread:

i think my basic intuition -- since roughly the time i began this thread -- is that, smart or dumb, the tories have zugwanged themselves

i still think this, except i now think they are many months more aware of the problem: that they are totally hemmed in by bad options -- whether or not may enjoys being on the stump, she is not a natural easy-cheesy charmer-improvisor and well knows she cannot afford to go off-message, except the message at any length beyond "strong and stable: brexit is brexit" isn't there, bcz the moment they try and fill it in, the cracks will show

hence basically trusting to their opponents' continued hapless ineptitude and the full-backing-in-a-pinch of the usual newspaper-owner suspects (which support is currently not looking as fulsome as they must want)

mark s, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

the measured tone of the press response is surely a fake objectivity intended to make the final week blitzkrieg look more impressive

The Real Remoaner (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 15:46 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

god bless neutral Kirsty Wark, taking a stand to protect middle class families on a mere 200K per year

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link

wrong thread, we do have an "execute every last one of the motherfuckers" thread surely?

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link

"politics of envy" seems to be becoming more ubiquitous than "strong and stable" a lately. Not that it makes any fucking difference.

calzino, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link

will still be voting for "eelootm" tbh

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I think she, or her team, have mb correctly judged that ppl hate politics, democracy & debate even more than usual atm & won't judge her for not bothering

ogmor, Friday, 2 June 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link

https://theswamp.media/theresa-may-s-father

Whooremeister (jed_), Monday, 5 June 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

yikes

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link

I worked on the re-wire of the Church of The Resurrection in Mirfield while at a company that would go bust before the job was finished. I don't feel so bad about what a fucked mess we made of that job now!

"Yet just after Theresa May took over at No.10 her campaign team started to request the deletion of web addresses linked to Hubert Brasier." - Fucking shady as fuck, man.

calzino, Monday, 5 June 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

to be fair this seems a little bit flimsy

-_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 5 June 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

v much so

some interesting kernels in there tho

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

well maybe, but I don't have much trouble believing her dad's proximity to much pederasty!

calzino, Monday, 5 June 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

The stuff about the hospital serial killer is good though.

Whooremeister (jed_), Monday, 5 June 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link

I found the historical Mirfield stuff interesting - obv The Black Bull is a Tesco Metro these days and about 80% of Mirfield are Tory/UKIP voting scum, but I lived there for a couple of years, so..

I remember finding a very well preserved 30's/40's Woodbine cigarette pack hidden under a floorboard under the mains board in that church. I was thinking *I wonder who left that there*

calzino, Monday, 5 June 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

no human thumb among the woodbines no crediblity

mark s, Monday, 5 June 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Monday, 5 June 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

wait i started this thread, it has taken a turn i did not anticipate

mark s, Monday, 5 June 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

also why did i say "human" thumb?

mark s, Monday, 5 June 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

she looks like them thumbs are severed trophies she is holding aloft!

calzino, Monday, 5 June 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

say what you like about theresa may, at least she has regularly-proportioned fingers and thumbs

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

(in a jar under her bed)

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link

if we can't get the "may's jars of human thumbs" story trending by tomorrow then we have failed as, well, twats and losers, i suppose

mark s, Monday, 5 June 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

(again i felt the need to write "human" thumbs, i think it's the rhythm tbh)

mark s, Monday, 5 June 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link

Hmm.

Just feel like this thread needs to be back in the New Answers list.

Jill, Friday, 9 June 2017 06:37 (six years ago) link

Did we get this one sorted?

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 June 2017 06:42 (six years ago) link

turns out her project was dumb as fuck iirc

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2017 07:04 (six years ago) link

Did we get this one sorted?

not sure. if only there was some empirical way of knowing.

Fizzles, Friday, 9 June 2017 07:10 (six years ago) link

am i allowed to feel i kinda called this re may?

and also re the loosening hold of the mail and the sun?

mark s, Friday, 9 June 2017 07:33 (six years ago) link

I think we're all allowed to feel as good as we want to for the next 24 hours at least

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 June 2017 07:40 (six years ago) link

totally allowed! ended up being the perfect opposition - media class were all "she's a mastermind superbrain" and then she landed spectacularly on her arse because of her "cunning".

Fizzles, Friday, 9 June 2017 07:40 (six years ago) link

also called it re turning in early and having a good night's sleep, you hilarious nerds

mark s, Friday, 9 June 2017 07:42 (six years ago) link

we kept you sleeping while remaining vigilant to ensure your dream had time to hypostasise.

Fizzles, Friday, 9 June 2017 08:28 (six years ago) link

it's a very looking-glass morning

mark s, Friday, 9 June 2017 08:33 (six years ago) link

This is exactly the reaction she wanted u guys smdh

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 9 June 2017 08:48 (six years ago) link

am i allowed to feel i kinda called this re may?

and also re the loosening hold of the mail and the sun?

You are, mark.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1785282/the-labour-partys-finished-thanks-to-corbyn-so-its-time-for-me-to-leave/

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 9 June 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link

this isn't the lab ceiling, i don't think:

Labour under Corbyn:

1) Biggest European centre-left party by membership

2) Most money

3) Highest polling

4) Highest election vote share

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) June 9, 2017

caveat forever: "events dear boy events yada yada" but having a large and enthusiastic and energetic and comfortably funded party is a BIG HELP (pity abt all the unenthusiastic middle layers gumming stuff up -- tho some of those were hurrying to kiss the ring last night, tom watson we see you)

mark s, Friday, 9 June 2017 11:06 (six years ago) link

Printed out maps to show how much blue there still is.

nashwan, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 10:53 (six years ago) link


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