yr fave extreme metal genre of the fast ones

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Yeah I never really got death metal for years, now I can't get enough of it, and you've probably nailed a pretty big reason why.

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link

I never would've been able to explain it like that though

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link

bands in my library tagged "thrash metal":

absolute zero
deathrow
destruction
slayer
sodom

bands in my library tagged "metalcore":

none

bands in my library tagged "grindcore":

sublime cadaveric decomposition

bands in my library tagged "death metal":

bloodgasm
dead
golem
gorguts
master
meshuggah
obliveon
ritual suicide
timeghoul
unleashed
unseen terror

bands in my library tagged "black metal":

abu lahab
anubi
batushka
darkspace
deathspell omega
emptiness
evil
fleurety
furia
hail spirit noir
jute gyte
kampilan
krallice
laetitia in holocaust
lugubrum
myrkur
nahvalr
necromantia
negative plane
oranssi pazuzu
tengger cavalry
ved buens ende

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:43 (seven years ago) link

note that i didn't make these tags, and no fucking way would i call absolute zero "thrash metal" for instance

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link

whatever The Locust was. grindcore right?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link

death > black > thrash > grind > metalcore but I got some love for the best of em all

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link

as far as amount of interesting stuff to be found aka variation within genre, I'd go with:

death > black > thrash > grind > don't listen to enough metalcore to know, but I suspsect I'd put it last anyway

Dominique, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link

Black probably, then a tie between thrash and Grind. I like some death and very little metalcore.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:41 (seven years ago) link

Oh, I like the Locust, if that counts as grindcore.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:42 (seven years ago) link

By "metalcore" are people thinking of Botch, Bloodlet etc or Killswitch Engage and stuff?

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:44 (seven years ago) link

the genre contains both

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:54 (seven years ago) link

when i said upthread that i like good metalcore the most out of any of these genres, i was def thinking of botch, converge, etc.

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link

death metal - better musicians, better composition, better repeat value

on the thrash tip, I really love the good old heavy progressive thrash bands (Sadist, Voivod) but most thrash records exhaust themselves by the third or fourth track for me otherwise.

The Locust was kinda grind/screamo xover, iirc

Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link

Right now I favour black metal for the atmosphere and beauty but I haven't listened to enough death metal beyond Death, Carcass, Morbid Angel, Athiest, Cynic and Anata. I'm put off by a lot of the vocalists and conventions but I hope/suspect there's a lot more interesting variety out there.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:15 (seven years ago) link

i thought botch were post-hardcore

i like the last botch ep

almost want to be challopsy and write-in vote for power metal, which is frequently awful but is also frequently fun

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

For me it's death > grind > metalcore (which includes deathcore 'cause I love Attila and Emmure) > thrash (mostly old stuff; new bands like Warbringer, Toxic Holocaust, et al. do nothing for me). I delete black metal promos unheard.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

1. Black Metal - Love lots of it from the '90s onwards, still producing cool and surprising music
2. Thrash - There's some classic stuff there but not a fan of anything past the '80s really
3. Metalcore - Not big into it but I've got time for Botch and Converge
4. Death Metal - Some bands I like in small doses, not keen on the vocals though plus it's all a bit too... knotty
5. Grindcore - Not for me at all

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link

check out the last 3 minutes of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iX5lbVDto

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link

death for me. My favorite as a kid, and the only subgenre of metal I still listen to on purpose

Wimmels, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link

I like some old metalcore I guess, if Botch and Bloodlet count.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link

black metal

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link

death metal wins, next level extreme music

i don't really get black metal..

haven't heard much grindcore apart from some napalm death. eh.

metalcore... is converge metalcore? that band rules

brimstead, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 00:13 (seven years ago) link

oh and thrash. thrash is good.

brimstead, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link

metalcore is Converge and a bunch of shitty Converge ripoffs, correct me if I'm wrong

Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 01:08 (seven years ago) link

grindcore because it's over the quickest.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 01:10 (seven years ago) link

Death metal, then black, then probably a tie between grind and thrash. Not sure I know what metalcore is, but if it's stuff like Kvelertak, count me in.

o. nate, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 02:58 (seven years ago) link

Attila and Emmure

I honestly thought "metalcore" mostly referred to stuff like this. Converge are not bad (but this still wouldn't change my answer).

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 03:21 (seven years ago) link

Grind is also the closest to other genres I enjoy like free jazz, punk rock and noize

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:07 (seven years ago) link

Oh hm, are you thinking of Painkiller as a grind offshoot/fusion?

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:10 (seven years ago) link

sure

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:35 (seven years ago) link

Metalcore is a relatively big tent if you include subgenres like Deathcore (Emmure, Attila, After The Burial, Slice The Cake, Whitechapel, etc) and Mathcore (Botch, Dillinger Escape Plan, etc).

Siegbran, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 11:26 (seven years ago) link

other than the earliest DEP, and at least a respect for bands like Car Bomb and Psyopus, I find a lot of mathcore to be a bit on the spastic side for me (which is probably the point). What about stuff like Naked City? Probably too conceptual and self-conscious. anyway, I can handle straight crust/hardcore/powerviolence, but when they try to metal up their sound, I find myself wanting better riffs/coherent songs. but I can be schooled!

Dominique, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 14:48 (seven years ago) link

Hot takes: Dillinger Escape Plan is hardcore, Naked City is jazz

Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 1 June 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Thrash or Death. Black is generally not toe-tapping enough for my tastes.

chap, Thursday, 1 June 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

I expected this to be death for American patriots and euros voting black but chap just had to be different ;)

Odysseus, Thursday, 1 June 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link

thrash then death

Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 June 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link

but that's heavily weighted by nostalgia. present listening = death then black, w/ maybe a little kimchi grind pile on the side.

Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 June 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

this will never be settled haha

imago, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link


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